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The thing with TT is this: it's like going to a steakhouse when you really are hungry for Italian. You could have a great steak, cooked just the way you like, everything good. But it doesn't matter because what you really wanted was Italian.
TT can play good football, but no matter how he does, if your idea of a QB is the big, strong armed guy that can make throws, like a Big Ben or a Rodgers, it won't matter how a guy like TT does. You just won't like it because it's not what you want.
I don't agree with this analogy at all. I was a huge fan of Taylor's early on. Didn't want him to be like any qb in particular.
Just a better version of himself.
I'm not seeing any true growth in his game. I think we've seen his best and don't think it'll be good enough against good teams.
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Have to give TYGOD credit but lets see how he does on the road or against better quality teams. I believe he's grown!
Sounds fair. Carolina should be a good test.
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I didn't even think it was that solid of a performance honestly."Drastically improved"
"Proved the doubters wrong"
These are comments that have been made that show posters going overboard based off this one solid performance.
I saw a lot of the same stuff I've always seen from him that will be capitalized on by a good opponent.
I certainly didn't see Taylor unleashed in any way. Seemed like the coaches are still being handicapped in what they can call.
Has he ever audibled into a different play based on what he's seeing from the Defense? Does he even have the option?
"Drastically improved"
"Proved the doubters wrong"
These are comments that have been made that show posters going overboard based off this one solid performance.
I thought the throw-aways were interesting. I think he would have scrambled instead last season.
And he seemed a little more inclined to throw to the middle of the field.
But it's only one game. I'd need to see more before proclaiming same-old-Tyrod or new-and-improved-Tyrod.
He's always thrown those away. imo he's always been too quick to do so instead of giving his players a chance to make a big play.
Why the "albeit against the Jets"? Their D is widely considered to be above average and that's the unit the Bills O defeated.This is nonsense. He hangs in the pocket because he's slow to make reads? Huh? And you know this how? BTW, I thought the "flaw" was he bailed out of the pocket because he couldn't make reads. Now it's he doesn't bail out because he can't make the reads. Yeow.
As to not "throwing his receivers open," that's patently not true on streak patterns. Where it might be true is the intermediate patterns. But that's pretty much true of every QB. Watch more than the end of day highlights on other QBs and you'll see it's SOP. The ONLY passes that regularly fit your criteria tend to be short ones that are underneath. And for that to work consistently, the QB and the receiver have to be totally in sync like Brady and Edelman. You saw how that didn't work without Edelman against the Chiefs. And TT hasn't a single WR he's familiar with. Matthews might even have had to introduce himself before kickoff.
I think what you're saying is nonsense.
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Nothing I said was wrong. It was exactly what happened in the game. So, the opposite of wrong.He did some things that he was criticized for last year. Used the TE more. More stuff over the middle. Hung in the pocket longer on some throws. He will never be a prototype big NFL QB. And those guys will never be TT. Let him do what he does best.
So yes you are wrong. And probably ugly too.
You say he hung in the pocket which is true. He hung in the pocket because he had a tough time examining what he's seeing and doesn't make reads fast enough.
He needs to work on that more than anything else. He needs to trust his receivers to be where the play dictates they will be and throw the ball giving them a chance to do something after the catch.
He waits til a player is open and thus the play more times than not ends as soon as they make the catch.
It wasn't all bad. No one is saying that. There was good and there was bad. Playing the Jets helped in that we could still win with the bad.
That's going to change as soon as we play a real team out there.
I'm allowed to criticize our qb. Especially when the qb has very real things to criticize. I saw more of the same than much needed improvement and you didn't. Season truly starts next week.
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You're wrong. That was easy
And you're ugly.
Ooh, you're right, it's fun to say things as if they're fact with absolutely nothing to back it up.
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Honestly, I saw the exact same Tyrod.
People say he grew in some areas? Ok, but he also regressed in a few.
One of his saving graces in his game in the past was his nice long ball. Both that I remember weren't anywhere near the target, and not catchable balls.
I liked that in the past he'd throw away a ball when it was obvious nothing was doing on the field. Well yesterday he threw some away that still had legs.
He just doesn't give his players a chance to make a big play. They either have to be wide open or he's not throwing it.
Did some good thing, did some bad things. Never stood on thevthroat of the opponent and poured it on like we should've, didn't take advantage of our opportunities.
It's going to lead to many issues against real teams.
Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong. Taylor's exactly the same as he was last year.
Some good, some bad. No real urgency or fire, imo.
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The fact that we cant out of it even with suspensions is what makes it bad, even without the benefit of hindsight.
Well yeah, although I'm pretty sure no one (fans) knew about that at the time.
We were just happy he was signed up. Anyone saying they weren't is lying honestly.
They're the same type of poster that is still crying about Peters at night.
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So true. I can't believe fans think just because a guy gets hurt on a single play on a different field he would have done the same thing here. It's moronic.
Even when a guy is brittle or injury prone it's not true.
But the guy we got isnt hurt and we can still use the pick we got.
So as of right now we're winning the trade.
You can look at it whatever way you decide to and we'll do the same.
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Don't listen to the whining thread police. Love the info, thanks for the thread.
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What a stupid-ass contract.
One that everyone (myself included) would have flipped out had we not agreed to.
In hindsight it's terrible. At the time it made sense.
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Really? We're locked and loaded with draft picks and you think they'll bring in Alex Smith?Thursday's game may have found us out new QB, Alex smith. Hope not, but maybe
As awesome as he was in that game. It was only one game.
Let's not get crazy.
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Btw he was just given a monster contract but kc had him on the tag. Almost only had about 13 mil guaranteed but got 40. Good for him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This is going to be a big talking point in negotiations going further. It was always the premise, but now with a tangible point like this one I could see a lot more hold outs.
Good and bad.
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Come on man, our fans are the worst.
How unrealistic can you get?
So a dude starts a thread about his team you don't agree with and now all the fans of that team are the worst?
meh...
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Wow... i mean. We are tied for first in our division.
So that's something.
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This thread has gotten wacky.
Got to say I'm never a fan of using real life tragedies in an a message board during an argument with someone you'll most likely never meet in the real world.
Kind of cheapens the importance of that situation and what it meant/means to you.
Just my two cents.
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Huge bummer. He was playing lights out.
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I went in kind of hoping for the Pats to dominate. That way I'd know the Chiefs weren't very good.
About halfway into the game I was actively rooting for the Pats to lose.
After last night (barring injury or qb controversy) I've accepted the pick will more than likely be a higher one.
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You are on a roll! Keep going!
No problem Scott, thanks for your contributions. I can tell you're a solid contributor of substance and not annoying at all.
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Of everyone in this thread I think you may be crying the loudest, and about the least significant thing. There's an amusing amount of irony.
Calling whiners out = crying?
Whatever gets you through the night. Fact is I'd say it to all of your faces, pretty much guarantee you wouldn't.
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Jesus your reaching and rambling.
Nope. Just sick of grown men crying about nothing all of the time. Grow up.
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According to who, you? Why do you care? Obviously they have their reasons and maybe it's part of a bigger incentive plan they trying out?The money never had to be offered to him at all though...
Either way it's not our money and doesn't affect us negatively at all.
Man, Ralph's too cheap and what now Pegula's too giving? You can't win with this fanbase.
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Silences the crowd. Gilmore burnt. Wonder who he'll blame?
Ha!!!
How much is he getting paid??
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Incentive. Not guaranteed. The money wouldn't have been spent elsewhere, and may not be spent at all.I've seen few complaints he's overpaid, only that the move makes little sense and funds would be better spent elsewhere. Not unreasonable.
What's so hard to grasp?
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I'm not so sure. That division is tough. I think they come back down to earth.
the divisions tough but they seem to be every bit as good as they were supposed to.
I'd be surprised if the don't get a wildcard spot at worst.
Tyrod Taylor 2.0?
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I'd like for the coaches to trust him to throw the ball even when we're ahead. We go into time management mode with any lead.