harmonkillebrew
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Fitz all the way.
Diggs was most productive. Reich was around the longest, but Fitz is and will always be a fan favorite and a guy who LOVES Buffalo and will tell everyone so. His legend has only grown since he left.
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14 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
I think have a top QB like Allen can make a WR who isn't considered top 10 look like he's all Pro. For those reasons I'm not as worried about the WR group as many here.
Recall what supposedly told Diggs when he first got here, just get open and catch the ball, I don't care about anything else. Can see that being the case this year again too. Now admittedly with a rookie , the knowing how to get open at the NFL level can be a bit tougher than he may think, may take some time whomever it was.
I think Allen can do some of that, but he's not Brady or Rodgers. Even Brady has Randy Moss, Gronk, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, etc... guys that were all-pros without Brady. Allen needs guys that can actually catch his rockets and because of his arm he can hit passes that Brady could never have made, opening up different areas of the field, especially downfield. But with Joe Brady's dink and dunk offense and Beane's decision to not get speedier WRs, we're wasting one of Allen's talent of attacking downfield
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It's a good point, but I think that's why most swallowed the Diggs trade as necessary medicine.
But to not double-down in the draft with such available talent, have many scratching their heads
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13 hours ago, Big Turk said:
Huh?
Hamler runs a 4.27
Samuel runs a 4.31
Isabella runs a 4.33
Shakir runs a 4.42
Claypool runs a 4.42
Doesn't seem that slow to me.
You guys are delusional
Hamler will be on IR all season
Samuel is a McKenzie/Harty+. He'll be great, if used right
Isabella is PS
Shakir is a short-area slot
Claypool won't make the team
We didn't replace Diggs or Davis combination of speed/hands/routes/size. Coleman is the closest to replacing Davis, but not really on downfield stuff
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I think they're releasing one game of the schedule per night, via a primetime broadcast. We'll know the full schedule by August
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3 hours ago, Roundybout said:
Ok come on. We can’t have it both ways. People complain that Beane only drafts team leaders and pure choir boys, then they complain when we sign people with checkered pasts.guys with checkered pasts ....who suck. Claypool and Ophelius (what ever his name is, former Det WR).
I'll take a checkered past if he's solid. Like when Calvin Ridley was available for a trade and Jax got him
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1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:
I would have liked Chark, but he signed for $5M. Beane couldn't sign him until after June 1st with the cap the way it is.
Can't blame Chark for taking the money now.
You really think Beane was ever going to sign Chark or OBJ? We've seen how much he loves bargain bin shopping for WRs.
Claypool and Mack Hollins are this year's Sheffield and Harty.
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2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
They want BIG and Athletic. Speed is good, don't get me wrong, but they are seeming to push for big, physical WR's and that is what Joe Brady had his year as OC with HIS offense down at LSU. No more getting bullied at the LOS, and hopefully a lot more contested balls. It also brings a greater Catch radius for Allen to hit on when his passes are slightly off.
Look I get it, Fans want splash they want exciting and we tried that with smaller, faster WR's and it didn't work. I am excited to see this new approach to be honest, and if we get the running game going, then we are going to see somewhat less exciting 8, 10,12+ play drives that eat the clock and keep guys like Mahomes and Kelce on the bench and hopefully lead to more TD's.
Hopefully more TDs is the big "?"
drive the entire field and stall in the red zone and miss a FG.
no opportunities on the roster for quick strikes makes the margin of error small
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14 hours ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:
I'd rather have D.J Clark but unsure of everything lol
Well we missed out on both.
But good thing we got Chase Claypool!!
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59 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
He's been absolutely terrible a couple of years running. Miami took him on this season and he did nothing there. They don't want him.
But they just signed OBJ instead.
So we're taking their leftovers?
And you can't say Claypool is high character.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
I can’t understand why we continue yo sign and draft off ball LBs while our WR room looks like it does. Maybe they have plans post 6/1?
They've told OBJ don't sign anywhere b/c we'll come get him June 1. ...maybe....
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On 5/1/2024 at 5:38 PM, stuvian said:
There was less doom scrolling on the BBMB during the decade of fail. I can't believe the level of hopelessness here.
In the Clappy/Beane era we have been in the playoffs six out of seven seasons. We are way closer to the top than the middle or the bottom.
I had season tickets from 2006 to 2018. We had a grand total of one playoff game in that time and it was on the road at Jacksonville. So zero home playoff games in twelve years.
With the atmosphere on this board you'd think we were perennial losers like the Jets or Bears.
These are the golden years folks.
Remember during the Kelly years when Rich Stadium wouldn't sell out and local TV was blacked out?
I don't think that will happen again, but used to back then (stadium was 80k+ as well)
Fans get used to success and want more.
Think a lot are getting anxious about the plan to get us past the Chiefs and the divisional round. Mahomes and Burrow aren't going away anytime soon and either we learn to hit them in the mouth or we out score them. Right now, I can't tell what the plan is.
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Looked up Hamler's injury history. Man, this guy is the definition of injury-plagued.
Chronic hamstring strains - didn't even run at the combine or his pro day; two ACL tears on same knee; hip injury; and then was out all last year with a heart condition.
Poor guy.
Foolish if Beane is thinking anything other than a flyer
Even when healthy, he had problems with drops and isn't great at tracking the ball
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1 hour ago, Fan in San Diego said:
Gabe Davis was a non factor dropping the ball machine. Addition by subtraction. Keon is a stud pass catching machine. Kincaid is stud. Kahlil is a stud. We are fine. If Beane adds another good WR its gravy. I would cut Knox and get another pass catching TE. Diggs dropped the ball too much as well. His pass catch ratio was around 61%, that nis too low. Keons ratio is around 91 %.
Dude has yet to play a snap in the NFL, or catch balls from Allen.
Sorry, you're deluded.
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3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
He can play outside some, just not full time. He is a better outside WR than Shakir for example. But anyways Samuel isn't going to be a traditional WR in our offense, those are the exact words Beane used to decribe him. He's the plus plus version of McKenzie/Harty. And I really liked that signing, I think he gives us a reliable X-factor that we've never had in the Josh Allen era. I'm just not looking at him as more than what he is.
It's really hard to imagine us not adding an outside WR post-June 1
The Beane smokescreen about liking Shorter and Shavers (I couldn't even remember who he was), is just that, classic Beane white lie.
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17 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
Getting over the top will require the Bills defense to stop Mahomes at some point.
This really is a completely different topic though. Many believe WRs is how you beat Mahomes. I still believe it’s front 4 pressure making at least a couple plays late in games to stop Mahomes. The Bengals beat Mahomes because of the defense. The Bucs beat Mahomes because of the defense.
We got Von to try and apply pressure to beat Mahomes. It's just not that simple. He's too good.
This last try, it was Kelce catching all over us, Pacheco running all over us, and the D letting KC score 27. Hopefully the D will be more stout with less LB injuries this year. But it was also our inability to close it out in the clutch. Part of that, imho, was a lack of potency in the passing game. We couldn't get that critical TD when we needed it. Josh threw 39 times and only got 186 yds.
As much as Josh can still do it, we need to start to find alternatives to his playmaking with his legs. It makes up for, and even masks, other deficiencies. He was our leading rusher that game. How many times has he bailed out our lack of a real system or plan, with some crazy individual feat? He won't be able to keep up his whole career.
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33 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Actually, what I care about is who's right come December. In September, Harmon might be right. After all, after the Jets game last year, the Bills came out absolutely smokin', and I don't expect that kind of start again. I think in December, you'll be right, because the young talent will be making an impact then.
Rookies and new players should be up to speed by December and reacting more naturally and playing with speed.
If injuries haven't hit us and our record isn't too bad, hopefully we can make a run.
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16 hours ago, Beast said:
Yeah, I mean how could they not be better. They’ll only have Milano and Bernard back on the field, a healthy secondary, and their two top receivers have contribute a whopping 3 catches for 21 yards and the other will have to be healthy enough to suit up.Such a tall task.
You think there won't be injuries by the time we get to the playoffs. Bernard worries me as a smaller guy who is always around the ball and plays aggressively. Milano and Daquan have injury histories. We're unproven at Safety and thin at CB.
We missed Davis against KC, but he was otherwise a consistent part of the team during the win streak. Diggs too, even if his production was low. Teams consistently doubled Diggs and put their top CB on Davis, opening up opportunities for other guys like Shakir. Diggs and Davis are gone, so we'll see how Ds react. Might be a blessing to not have a consistent #1 target. I think we'll double down on the run game and if Davis can produce immediately that should be good. Morse was not the best run blocker, so could we get better there? Plus consistently running behind 2 TEs.
I can't say the team is definitely better. There are some big question marks in many areas that we'll just have to see how it plays out.
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1 hour ago, Mailman said:
It wouldn't surprise me, at this point. McBeane just doesn't value the wide out spot like most modern teams. Same song and dance in Carolina.
That's the rub.
8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:Hamler kind of reminds me a bit of John Brown. Brown was pretty much the same size (2 inches taller but played at the same weight) and had many injuries that caused him to either miss games or play through injury early in his career when with Arizona. Sometimes the smaller WRs take longer to get their body NFL ready so they add weight/muscle without sacrifice to their calling card...which is speed.
In any event it's not like Buffalo signed him to a large contract. Low risk with potential for a nice upside is never a bad thing.
Hope Hamler can kick the injury bug, but those injuries take a toll on productivity as well.
Smoke had a 1,000 yd season in his 2nd season. Was productive as a rookie as well. Then had a few nice seasons with the Bills
Hamler has done NOTHING so far.
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Young guys over vets, challenge them to grow and succeed, but they very well may fail.
2 scenarios:
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11-6: win the division again (not sure Miami got much better)
make the AFC Champ but lose to the Bengals
Von is back in form, Keon is productive, team struggles to adapt at first to new faces but then goes on a run
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8-9: miss the playoffs
Bills struggle out the gate. Hangover in leadership void. Returning guys like Milano are still getting up to speed. DB play lacking. Injuries.
Offense has no rhythm. Team is predictable and DCs flood the box.
3-6 and call for McD's head, but team comes together and goes on a mini-winning streak to give hope for future and save McD's job
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On 4/27/2024 at 4:43 PM, JakeFrommStateFarm said:
Shakir replaces diggs ?
people are seriously delusional
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18 hours ago, Meatloaf63 said:
The game has changed a lot since Andre played. Andre now would have matched Diggs production especially with Allen. The bills were more balanced back then too I believe with Thurman.
yeah, as much as the Bills were the high-flying K-GUN, Kelly never threw for more than 4,000 yds in a season, only over 3500 once.
Was a different game
5 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:Agree with this.
Beane definitely sprinkles some "lies", along with truth.
Fairly certain, Beane will look to fill the WR4 role after June 1st. Potentially DE as well, I'm concerned we don't gave a DE4 with run stopping/some pass rush. Toohill/Solomon/Kingsley, run game is not a strong suit. Ogbah would be a fit, if price is right.
Back to WR, I'm comfortable with Hollins as WR5/ST and if we keep 6, let Hamler/Shorter/Shavers/UDFA compete.
WR4 has to be a boundary/down field option. We don't need a star, nor am I expecting that, but a quality depth option. MVS and Chark would fill that role. Coleman is a rookie and will need some rampup time...I'm not confident that Shakir or Samuel take more than 50% snaps on the outside, let alone stay healthy all year.
The thought of Hollins having to play significant snaps, due to injury/etc, is a depressing thought.
Beane isn't giving his hand away, but he will definitely have $s after June 1 for MVS/Chark type. Give MVS or Chark $6m on a 1 yr deal (but add a void yr to decrease 2024 cap to $3mish). Along with a $3-4m type deal for Ogbah, potentially add a void year to his as well. We will be in better cap position in 2025, so adding a $4-5m deferred dead cap won't break thr bank...especially compared to this yr.
Also interesting that we don't really have a mentor for Coleman.
There's no one on the roster that can help him learn the ropes as a #1 or outside, boundary WR. Tricks of the trade etc... Samuel and Shakir are slot guys.
Maybe they'll bring in OBJ for that role alone
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19 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
Yeah but seemed like for every one Davis would catch, he'd drop 2 more and by year end even Diggs was dropping some. Give me WR who can consistently catch the ball 15 to 20 yards downfield and think the offense will be much better overall.
I was happy to move on from Davis to upgrade. The Diggs trade made me think they were really going to overhaul.
However, I'm less than excited with what they chose to do in the draft.
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1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
In Gabe Davis rookie and 2nd year he was great at catching 20 yard sideline passes, then he seemed to have forgot how to catch the ball. Don't think you need the speed of Worthy for that, just someone with good hands which everything written about Coleman says he should excel there. Samuel can provide enough speed if/when needed.
As to the point of what is the philosophy, IMO what is should be is keep the chains moving which was something the Bills were good at prior to the last season and a half. Definitely don't feel the team is misaligned with Allen as don't think the extra speed helps moving the chains nearly as much as just simply catching the ball.
Gabe still did it some. He had a TD last year that was vintage deep sideline stuff. His height and good hands, made up for less than top speed and average route running. But most of that success was Allen fitting it into TIGHT windows. That is what he can do that other QBs just can't - hit deep sideline windows with lasers. It would be even more deadly with a WR with hands, routes, and speed - a true boundary WR.
Top 5 QB and Top 5 WR salary cannot coexist on a SB team
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Shakir on punts....