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Commsvet11

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  1. 19 minutes ago, daz28 said:

    I did and gladly will, but I wish you'd stop dodging questions yourself.  Look back at previous SCOTUS discussion on the topic.  It's about when the fetus can live outside the body on its own.  All our current non-secular SCOTUS is doing is mucking up everything that people already agreed upon in the past, trying to turn back the clock.  Their inconsistency and punting on everything is maddening.  Abortion?  States rights.  Insurrection Clause?  Not states rights.  Total immunity?  self-executing??  They're a complete clown show. 


    Okay so anything before 28 weeks and it is considered part of the mothers body and anything after that it’s considered two separate human beings.

     

    You can live on a state that’s population believes abortion is legal or not. You have the freedom to move or elect officials to change state law what’s the biggie?

  2. 3 minutes ago, daz28 said:

    Having organs doesn't make you a human being.  Let's quit quibbling the minor details, and jump into the actual debate.  Should the state have control over bodily autonomy?  Better yet, should the state respect the rights of a fetus more than the autonomy of the already living, breathing mother?


    Well since you just declared having organs doesn’t make you a human being perhaps you should define it n your view what does make a human being and what age makes one a human being because that’s big part of the argument so let’s have answers for those. 

  3. 9 minutes ago, daz28 said:

    No it does not.  There is currently a total artificial heart.  If having a heart makes you human, I guess people with them aren't human then.  How long does the heart you described last outside the mother.  Imo, any fetus that can't live outside of its mother, is part of the mother, which is part of her bodily autonomy, no matter what someone else's Bible says.  if the Constitution says you have a right to privacy in your 'persons, houses, papers, and effects', then CERTAINLY you have a right to privacy in your bodily autonomy.  Only a fool would argue against that.  


    What does an artificial heart have to do with biological body system? You have Cells those cells then make tissues those tissues make organs and those organ make organ systems. That is the biological build up which in this context a human being is being formed. A Heartbeat is a fine arguement because it is one step away from organ systems.

     

     

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  4. 16 minutes ago, daz28 said:

    As I've already said, and the courts have already agreed with me a long time ago, the issue should be about viability, yet that's not good enough for the religious.  You're not a human being when you're a mass of cells.  Heartbeat is the silliest argument, because it is based on the old adage that the heart is something besides a muscle with valves, that circulate blood.  Also keep in mind, that one party fights against access to birth control.  Ironically, they're the ones that hate abortion.  There's absolutely ZERO chance that a large group of them will EVER be ok with any compromise, which means this issue will NEVER end.  


    The heart is one of the first organs to grow, which actually makes a good arguement because the mass of cells have differentiated into an organ a different beings organ 

  5. 17 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

    Same for you. Nice try. You got nothing. 
     

    like I said. Own it and move on. You won’t look so stupid. Everyone makes mistakes. That was obviously a dark day and mistake (for lake of a better word right now). The Republican Party would be better off if they would own it and move on. That can’t move on because they keep trying to down play it. Keep trying to defended trump. There is no defense for that crap!


    I’m pretty sure I have been nothing but civil towards you.

     

    Why don’t you explain why someone shouldn’t defend Trump? Does he really do anything that you or others wouldn’t do? 
     

    If you can’t stand someone you don’t even know what does that say about you? 

  6. 3 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

    Actually you are exactly what I expected. I know very successful people that support trump.

     

     No takers on trying to tell me what I saw on January 6? Come on, I want to hear how you guys are trying to re write history. I think republicans would be better off to own it and move on. You just make yourself look worse trying to tell people what they watched. At least you are not killing babies like Dems! 
     

    admit you love trump even tho he’s an asshat. I would have more respect for that than you trying to tell people he’s a great guy. Republicans should easily take back the White House but because of all your ***** and supporting trump you have no chance. 

    Read the article. You are twisting it. Don’t try to tell me you’re a teacher or something and your reading comprehension is that bad!!!


    Would you share some of your photos from Jan 6? And what were you doing there if you weren’t a trump supporter out of curiosity?

  7. Just now, 4th&long said:

    Everyday stress compared to stress like that? For him? What’s a Capitol cop deal with every day? Running people thru metal detectors? Checking id’s? 
     

    I will listen to an M.E. Before I listen to some random guy on a message board.

     

    i told you i was open to listening if you had proof that day didn’t play a role. Present it.

     

     And what? are you going to try to tell me what I watched live on 1/6. Please do, this ought to be interesting. 

     
    Your proof is a medical examiner that put cause of death natural causes and said Jan 6 played a role.

     

    You aren’t realizing the article you provided includes that before the autopsy it was said the death was from injuries from 1/6 but because this is real life and ME does have something to lose if something is falsified putting in that line saves face because of the outright lie of death due to injury.

     

    Your wife probably adds stress to your life right? When you die I could easily say she was a contributing factor.

     

    As for you watching 1/6 live…were you there or did you watch on Tv?

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  8. 23 minutes ago, Westside said:

    They know and deliberately lie about it. That’s all they have is lies. The leftists on here accuse anyone who doesn’t agree with their warped agenda of doing exactly what they do. Most people on here are just normal people trying to live their lives. But instead they’re called names and lie.


    I’ve noticed whenever someone newer comes down here it’s to make fun of people what they consider MAGA people. The  problem is those same people realize rather quickly our little group here isnt what they expected and they cannot wrap their heads that there are scientists,doctors,teachers that do not hate trump and so instead of allowing that thought it goes to “You must not really be that occupation because trump bad”

     

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  9. 16 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

    https://people.com/crime/brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes-riot-played-role-says-medical-examiner/
     

    The m.e. Says right in this article that all that transpired that day played a role in what happened to him. His words not mine. Read the article.

    You don’t need the death of one officer to prove that trump does not back the blue. Over 100 officers injured. 
     

    what did he expect would happen when you tell a hyped up mob that “we are going to march to the capitol “ and “you got to fight like hell”? And then watched that ***** show unfold for 3-4 hours before he calls off the dogs? 


    So the article says the medical examiner says the officer died of natural causes but before the autopsy was done it was stated because of injuries of Jan 6.

     

    Now the autopsy gets done and now it a it played a role but it isn’t explained exactly how.

     

     

    You have theorized it was the stress of that day good point probably a contributing factor……but isn’t everyday stressful for a police officer?

    Just one event? Not the entire career? 


    Your view of Jan 6 isn’t quite accurate as well, your timeline and quotes are way off as well as your perception of the event.

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  10. Just now, 4th&long said:

    I shouldn’t have called him a liar, more like I strongly dis agree. I never seen anyone say they were not related and I find it hard to believe the are not. But if he has proof I’ll listen.


    Why do you find it hard to believe? Let’s start there. In fact let’s ask the same question how do you connect the blood clot and Jan 6?

  11. 3 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

    Ask Sicknicks family how they felt about trump going to the officers wake last week!

     

     Speaking of which over 1000 officers died in the line of duty while trump president. how many wakes did he go to during that time? 0!!!


    Perhaps you should ask Dillers family how they felt about Trump going to the wake, that would seem more relevant no?

     

     

  12. 14 minutes ago, B-Man said:


    Well then , it was pretty silly of you to try and connect his ( obvious) screen name with MAGA.

     

    but no one here is surprised at you. 
     

     


     

     

    2 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

    Ever watch married with children? If you did it would make sense.


    I find a bit odd that not only 1 but 2 people on this board has no knowledge to a reference of a very popular American sitcom. Especially if you are over a particular age. 

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  13. 3 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    It wasn't a conviction because it was civil court.  And it wasn't rape: he was found liable for sexual abuse.  And to your original question, yeah, it bothers me that someone was found liable for something when there was zero proof he did it.  Again if all it takes is an allegation and that's how you want to play it, then Joke raped, or at least sexually abused, Tara Reade.


    @John from Riverside is this an example of you going after a right wing extremist or is it an example of one making you look stupid?

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  14. 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

    Understand that because I don’t go after you like I do the rest of the right wing extremist idiots on this board. It’s out of respect. For your service.
     

    And that is the only reason
     

     


    Well then drop that reason, I can handle my own and you don’t go after the rest, those posters make you look pretty silly on a regular basis.

  15. 3 minutes ago, US Egg said:

    Speaking of saying things:

     

    Biden reps expressed condolences to the “folks” who died serving his administration.


    Guess they consider anyone who served being referred to as “folks” is showing reverence.

     

    That’s their idea of respect.


    See both bull#### time and Johnny want to call me an ####### but neither of them are willing to do that because if they did that I could turn that around  and tell them that according to their logic they have called all combat vets #######s even though it was meant toward a singular person regardless of service. They would have to concede a person can insult a person without including a group which is problematic to their position trump disrespected and insulted all POWs instead of a POW he didn’t like.

     

    Now Johnny boy could go the route of how I should respect the service but then I could clap back on How Trump was the Commander In Chief and Johnny doesn’t respect him at all and that’s another example of his hypocrisy.


    All you have to is bring up the actions and there is no response but their feelings it’s too easy. 

     

     

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  16. Just now, Tiberius said:

    I believe Kelly, and Trump did not visit the cemetery

     

    He disrespected gold star families, he said it and meant it  


    You want to believe Kelly, because it lines up with your opinion of Trump, for me, I’m a combat vet I hear words  that’s supposed praise military like “thank you for your service “. I look at actions like not getting the US in another conflict so there are less Gold Star Families, or trying to Improve the VA, because words like  thank you for your service doesn’t heal a broken bodies or PTSD.

     

     

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