[Postgame Thread DAMMIT!]

2 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Although I think McDermott errored on the kickoff and in the defensive strategy at the end, I agree with your sentiments. 

Yeah, I think he erred too. Definitely on the defensive strategy. Maybe on the kickoff - I'm less sure about that.

 

Most coaches makes lots of mistakes though. It's an unbelievably complex and fast moving game. I'm not ready to throw out the people who have built by far the most satisfying and fun version of the Bills in 25 years.

 

Josh has much to do with that, of course. He's a freak, and a good human, and unbelievably competitive and dedicated. But he could have landed with coaches who didn't develop him well, and who didn't prioritize the kind of tight and human culture that he seems to thrive in. I think he's in the right place with the right coaches. I'm looking forward to the next 10 years (although I don't know how much more damage my heart can take from these brutal losses - I've been at it for 40 years (50 if you count the fact that as a little kid my first football love was the Fran Tarkenton Vikings teams - no strangers to brutal losses)).

 

 

[Postgame Thread DAMMIT!]

Just now, Nitro said:

Context is needed.  I was responding to a post comparing Mahomes and Allen.  Not a did on McD.  It is that Mahomes has a HC in Reid who believes in him and truly trusts his talent.  My analysis of the game is not a lie. I speak the truth.   Dabol is good but it has a tendency to call some odd plays.  Nothing knee jerk.  Been saying this for two years. They have the offense that is Super Bowl caliber.  

Fair enough. Sorry if I took you out of context. Totally agree that right now Reid is a better tactical coach than McD. And I'm not sure McD's strength will ever be tactical. But I do believe that he will keep working to find and develop good tactical minds and that everyone on the staff will keep working to improve their approach over time. I agree about Dabol too. He's a funny one. I like him, and think he will also continue to get better as a play caller. (No idea how he'll be as a head coach.) But I did think the coaching tonight on offense was nervous and tight at times, especially early. They needed to unleash Allen early and let things play out. That series of calls before the punt on 4th and 1 was painful (as was the punt).

 

But they're human. I just get tired of everyone who makes a mistake (especially when a lot of the mistakes probably aren't actual mistakes) getting called idiots and trash, etc. But you weren't doing that, so sorry to aim my frustration at your reasonable post.

[Postgame Thread DAMMIT!]

8 minutes ago, Nitro said:

Mahomes has the advantage of Reid as his HC.  They do not waste whole series trying to be a genius.  They go after your weaknesses.  Sound familiar?  Dabol has glaringly bad play calls.  Bills took too long to exploit the beat up secondary of KC.  

Do you know how many years people crapped on Reid for never being able to win big games?! Coaching, like anything else, is a developmental process. Plus you need the players. Plus you need to get a little lucky. I swear that Pittsburgh is the only team in the league with its head on straight in terms of letting coaches stick around long enough to develop and to give the organization some coherence.

 

I wasn't a McD fan when he was hired. But he has done a great job building an organization that is geared toward long-term competitiveness. And he continues to grow as a coach. He'll get a little better each year if he's given time.

 

These knee jerk responses are predictable, but ridiculous.

[Divisional Round SATURDAY: Bengals at Titans, 4:30 on CBS]

Bills or Chiefs are going to destroy either one of these teams.

 

[Sanders and Beez next season?? Offense evolving....and a score prediciton for sunday =)]

5 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

I’m not saying I disagree with him or you, I think it’s likely they move on from them too. I was just pointing out the confusing language the poster used. 

I don't think it was confusing. He would be surprised if both were on the roster. He would not surprised if neither were on the roster.

 

And it's implied that he wouldn't be surprised if the third possibility holds - that only one of them is on the roster.

[Divisional Round: Buffalo at KC Sunday at 6:30]

31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Love it. Milano is serious. In other news, how good is Micah Parsons!? Coverage and rush. I would love to have that guy on our team.

[Post-Beatdown Belichick Locker Room Visit?]

20 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

This.  When I saw that video of Belichick on some Boston sports show, he was "breaking down" Allen's TD throw to Diggs against the Jets.   Although he didn't say it directly, I thought it was clear that he is in awe of what Allen does on the field.  Belichick first commented on the play Allen made to break free of the pocket, then he commented on Allen getting to the sideline and withstanding the hit, then he said something about the accuracy of the throw.  It was all understated, but it seemed clear that what he was saying was that this is an extraordinary talent, making three outstanding plays on one play, any one of which alone was great. 

Thanks. I went and looked for it, and I think this is what you were talking about? Pretty cool.

Belestrator on Allen, Diggs, Singletary

[Post-Beatdown Belichick Locker Room Visit?]

1 hour ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Heard Sal with Howard and Jeremy this morning talk about this on WGR, but Sal was unaware as to any details and haven't seen this pop up anywhere else--was wondering if anyone knows more, or have any guesses as to what was said/may have happened with a Belichick visit to the Bills locker room after this historic game?

 

https://nesn.com/2022/01/bill-belichick-visited-bills-locker-room-after-patriots-playoff-loss/

 

Aw, crap. Now I have to like him. What are you doing to me Bill, being all classy and large spirited? It's disturbing my universe.

[Divisional Round: Buffalo at KC Sunday at 6:30]

1 hour ago, Forward Progress said:

The Bills PR team is killing it this year!

Yes, they have seriously upped their game over the past couple of years. This year especially.

[I can't lose.....]

12 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

He's not a troll or a dick.  He's just a fan of a team we all hate.  No biggie.

Agreed, he's a good poster.

 

But "we" don't "all" hate the Chiefs. Many do, but I don't really get it. For me, they are a great team, and it has been fun to watch them. Love Reid. Love Mahomes (don't understand why people are hating on him - except for the obnoxious brother thing).

 

Don't get me wrong, I do hate losing to them. But that's another story. I hope we plaster them by 50 on Sunday and Mitch T. is on for mop up duty the entire fourth quarter.

 

But life's too short to hate every excellent and entertaining team in the league. Save the hatred for where it really matters: The *Patriots.

 

 

[Diggs #'s way down - Is this an issue]

19 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

As I've said the Bills offense just looks a little off.  

 

Early on many wanted to claim Diggs #'s were down due to Sanders arrival, but that is not the case.

 

Elite receivers get their touches passes and catches every week & seldom a drop off, but Diggs' #'s are way down.

 

2020 7.94 catches/game 95.94 yards/gm 7 100 yard games

2021 6 cathces/gm 71.87 yards/gm  1 100 yard game.

 

Kupp, Lamb, Adams & others are all doing well.  Only Hopkins (slightly injured) seems to have seen their #'s down this season.

 

Want to see Diggs putting up 2020 #'s soon.....

Diggs led the league last year in receptions and yards. Massive year. You can't expect him to put up those numbers every year. No one does. His current numbers would be 96 catches for 1150 yards (in a 16 game season to keep it comparable) - a nice year that would be 3rd all time on the Bills for receptions and  10th all time for yards. If that's a down year, I'll take it. Plus he could easily go off for a game or three and jack those numbers up.

 

Now that we are good and have good players, people's expectations are stretched beyond realism (see e.g., every discussion of Josh's regression).

[Media and practice 8/25]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Is that poor newbie Sims who just got a fist bump?

That subtle one at the end with McKenzie just DESTROYS me. Funniest/coolest handshake ever.

[Gameday Thread Preseason #2 Bills @ Bears 8/21 1st Half Thread]

The Red Rifle. Gotta love him. (A little easier to take when we are up by 28 and it's preseason, of course.)

[Jimmy Johnson Halftime Adjustment Against the Bills in SB XXVIII]

 

2 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said:

You bring this up on the first day of training camp?

 

Is this supposed to be some sick twisted form of motivation for us???

 

Yes, it's a painful memory that I had almost erased from my brain.  Thanks!!

 

😉

 

3 minutes ago, Beast said:

Yeah, real fun read. I had a ***** blast reliving that.

 

Ha ha. Sorry. Guess those few decades haven't been such a balm to everyone.

[Jimmy Johnson Halftime Adjustment Against the Bills in SB XXVIII]

Fun read on Jimmy Johnson in The Athletic. Like many of you, I imagine, I couldn't stand the guy back in the day. But after a few decades have eased the pain I can now look back on him fondly as a beloved old enemy. Anyway, interesting comment by DJ about how they flipped the script on the Bills in our fourth Super Bowl and came back in the second half. Painful, but good to know:

 

Daryl Johnston

Fullback, 1989-1999

The one that I always remember is halftime of Super Bowl 28 in Atlanta against Buffalo. We’re down 13-6. And they really just kind of stifled us in the run game. They were doing something; they were twisting and moving inside. They were crashing their tackles inside and looping the linebacker outside, just running some stunts in the front so our guys couldn’t really tee off on them. And they were quick. It was one of the things that we always struggled with was the quickness and the movement in our run game. And they were giving us fits.

At halftime, Jimmy was outside the locker room and he said, “Listen, we know what they’re doing. You guys get off your feet, take care of your business. In about 10 minutes, let’s get back together, we’ll have everything up on the board for you. We’re going to show you what they’re doing. We’re going to show you how we’re going to counter that. And the second half, we’re going to force them out of what they’re doing right now. And then as soon as they move out of that we can get back to what we planned on doing.” So it was a play we had run about five, six weeks ago. It was just “power,” you know, just the power play. They were stunting the 3-4 outside linebacker with the defensive tackle down inside and looping the linebacker to the outside. So for power, it’s easy, everybody just adjusts and they’re basically taking themselves out of the play. If you remember the opening drive of the second half, when we had the football, it was Emmitt left, Emmitt right, Emmitt left, Emmitt right, Emmitt right, Emmitt left and it was “power” the whole way down the field. There wasn’t a whole lot of deviation on the play call. They were going to need to stop stunting and go back and play more traditional defense and at least mix it up a little bit. And they never really did. They kind of just stuck with what they were doing. And that’s why we had so much success in the second half.

I’ve always felt the way that Jimmy handled that whole thing because we were really frustrated coming in at halftime. And remember, Troy had the concussion against San Francisco in the championship game and it was just one week before the Super Bowl. So we were gonna lean on the run game a little bit more but they stuffed it in the first half and it was a little bit of “what’s going on here?” Then for him to be out at the locker-room door and to be saying, “Hey, we know what they’re doing. Don’t anybody panic, go in and take care of your business? We got the long Super Bowl halftime, we have plenty of time. Let’s make sure everybody’s (knows) what we’re doing. And we’ll go out here in the second half and we’ll force these guys out of what they’re doing and we’ll take advantage of the game plan that we have in place.” It’s Hudson Houck and it’s Norv Turner and everybody’s in on the X’s and O’s and all that stuff, but Jimmy to be there being real positive and knowing what we were going to be able to do in the second half. I thought it was, if not his best coaching moment while we were there, it was definitely near the top.

 

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That Was Just Jimmy

[CBS Sports Top 10 NFL HC's]

21 hours ago, TBBills said:

12 wins above .500 is impressive TBH. Add to the facts he is first time HC.

Exactly. Very impressive actually. Not to mention playoffs 3 out of 4 years with a team that hadn't sniffed the playoffs since the Victorian era. And the one year he missed out, he was starting a rookie QB.

 

I was not a fan of the McD hire at all. Ecstatic to be so wrong. And though he still has his weaknesses, like any coach, I don't see how anyone can look at either his quantitative record or the qualitative vibe of this team and be anything other than deeply impressed.

[Madrid wants to organize an NFL game at the new Bernabéu before 2025]

50 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

There are NFL fans all over the world.

Exactly. Love to see the NFL continue to grow internationally.

 

Been following soccer (football) more and more closely over the years and the international diversity is a breath of fresh air compared to the insularity of U.S. sports. I really enjoy it for that reason (as well as many others).

[As if the new Brandt hype vid isn’t enough...]

4 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

I may have to watch this before every game now

Epic. That should actually be the new Shout song. The stadium would be blistering.

[AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME! Bills at Chiefs, Sunday 6:40 pm on CBS]

12 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I find myself just staring at this schedule and the cold, hard facts it displays.😲

For all the team records and new League standards we’ve set -and they are bountiful!, having now tied the most wins at 15 is the most remarkable for me. The fantastic ‘64 team was 13-2 including the title game. Twice during the Levy era, we were 15-4 including playoff games & SBs. With 2 more games possible, this impressive mark of excellence will fall with just 1 more win.

 

LOOK AT ALL THE GREEN!!

 

I was thinking about that too.

 

17-3 sounds pretty good to me.

 

And that 17 would then include wins over Mahomes (maybe) and Rodgers or Brady. I suppose I am getting ahead of myself, but what else am I meant to do this week?

[Colts May Have Been Exactly What the Bills Needed]

Re-watching parts of the game - it wasn't as bad as I remembered. Yes, there were some big blown plays by the defense. But Rivers converted a bunch of close ones too where he was just about to get hammered and the receiver was pretty well covered. Hats off to him. He's a HOF QB in my eyes.

 

On the other side, we had no cheap points whatsoever. No turnovers. Brutal field position. Colts forced us to punt 4 times. Good defense. But we also had great drives: TD drives were 85, 96 (1!), and 77. Massive. And the FG drives weren't short: 44 and 39. 

 

I think it felt worse than it was, because three of the punts were on three and out possessions. We are not used to those. But they happen. All it takes is a small mistake. We've been spoiled. Didn't the Bills set the team record for first downs this year? And they were near the top of the league for fewest punts and fewest three and outs, I think I remember hearing.

[Most unbelievable throw from Allen Saturday]

33 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Great throw and play but saying there is not one QB in the league that could throw that pass is unnecessary over-hype and leads me to believe you don't watch the rest of the NFL.    Mahomes and Rodgers can DEFINITELY make that throw as well as guys like Stafford and Herbert who have incredible pure arm talent as well.     We saw a bunch of soft-tossers on the Bills schedule but there are also a bunch of guys in the league right now who at one time might have had the strongest arms in the NFL over the past 25-30 years.    The game has swung back in favor of big armed passers over the past decade after the zone blitz kinda' turned the game into more of a cerebral exercise in the mid-90's......which really limited the pool of passers and lead to an era of domination by guys like the Mannings and Brees and Brady.    

For sure, there are a number of guys that can make that throw. But do you think they can make it look that easy and casual? Not that that matters in terms of impact. But it is pretty fun to watch.

[Most unbelievable throw from Allen Saturday]

2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said:

I think this throw deserves it's own thread. The 37 yard "flick" to Diggs was amazing. Allen chucks the ball 35 yards in the air with absolutely no effort, none whatsoever. There is not one QB in the league that could do this. I had to replay it like 10 times. Never seen anything like it. 

 

 

Thanks for highlighting that, so I could go watch it another 10 times.

 

You are right, it is absolutely insane. He looks like he is using the same amount of effort that I would use to throw the ball to my little nephew 3 yards away.

 

I don't actually understand the physics of Josh Allen. He is a quantum MFer.

 

[Allen once again leading the league in 3rd and 10+]

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

I literally feel the Bills are going to convert every 3rd down they face no matter how far it is. Allen can easily pick up 20 on any given play it seems. Just scary how good this offense is.

Right. It is the exact opposite of how I've felt on 3rd and long for the past 25 years. Shifted from: "Oh well, next drive" to:"We'll probably get this," in 2017 and has never wavered.

 

Josh on 3rd down, Josh in the 4th Quarter, Josh in the Red Zone, Josh down one score . . . all money. He can't win 'em all. But it sure feels like he can sometimes.

[WILD CARD Playoff 1/9/21 Bills vs. Colts PreGame Thread]

27 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Thanks for the find, @stevestojan! Greatest Bills Hype Video EVER! I saw or heard every one of these plays as they happened! (I’m OLD!) 

Headphones encouraged!

Well.

 

That had me bawling my eyes out.

 

On a Saturday morning in January. 

 

In South Africa.

 

I haven't lived in Western New York for 30 years. But this team, even during the seemingly endless dark days, has just been one of the loves of my life.

 

I think we will win today. But even if our boy Frank figures out some way to shellac us, I will wake up tomorrow heartbroken (again), but just as in love as always.

 

It's really impossible to explain how deep it runs.

 

I know every team has their fans, but I do think the relationship between the Bills and their fans is extraordinary.

 

 

[Absolutely Hilarious Angry Runs for Week 16]

GMFB is the best football show going right now. It’s a pleasure to watch this crew. And yes this week's angry runs was phenomenal. Absolutely hilarious. I vote AJ Dillon all the way. What a smack.