4th&long
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5 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:
Can't divide the country any more than the c'Rats have already done.
They have drawn the battle lines, the rest of us want to live our lives.
398 - posts another shitbag alt tired of being ignored for stupidity and lies.
bye bye
Whatever you say sparky.
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24 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
I understand clearly. Maybe you don't. There is no victim. The State of New York was not defrauded. They lost nothing. They weren't even a party to the arrangement and I'd argue in a civil case the State doesn't even have legal standing to bring the case as a plaintiff. The banks holding the loans were not defrauded. In fact, they provided testimony FOR the defense. They lost nothing. But the Judge would have none of that. In civil cases plaintiffs are compensated for damages along with penalty judgments. The banks claim no harm so does the State get the money? For what?
Seriously, on appeal this case is going to get thrown out. For the rationale I say and then some. I wouldn't surprised if the Judge and Prosecutor get censured by the court on top of it. And then Trump is going to sue the Judge, the Prosecutor, and the State of NY and those idiots are going to cost the taxpayers millions in judgments. What do they care? Its not Leticia's money. If you're a resident of NYS its coming out of your pocket.
Otherwise, in the future, if mis-representing the value of your property on business records, in this case a loan application is a crime, then everybody that fills out and signs a home equity loan application that estimates the value of their home is more than the bank's appraiser says its worth is committing a "crime" in the State of NY.
We’ll see how it plays out. I would doubt they would charge him and a judge rule against him if he didn’t break a law. I could be wrong of course. He will have his day in court again, and again and again and again and again and again and again. Your post will be brought back up.
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2 minutes ago, Doc said:
Biden's been a disaster for everything but the stock market (currently) and people defending his ineptitude are stupid. I get why you do it because, hey, he seems like a swell guy. But he's not. At least I know that Trump isn't as well, but his policies align more with my own and that's what's more important.
I don’t recall defending Biden. Someone asked what has done well under him. I answered. Defending him? Hardly. I get what you are saying about policies, that is exactly what I hear from my brother. If I don’t like a guy I can’t support him no matter what.
I think republicans should have nominated someone else. I’m sure someone else would have supported the same policies without all the drama. That lady would have represented you guys well from what I seen of her. (I can’t think of her name)
someone needs to explain to me when worship of politicians became a thing? They are politicians. Not even actors or athletes.
1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said:No, you shouldn't worry about it at all.
Your idiocy doesn't bother me in the least. It just explains everything about you.
Trust me, the less we have of useful idiots like yourself voting, the better.
It's been a fun few days and thanks for the entertainment, but now you can join the rest of them.
Ah the useful idiots phrase again. You’re go to line, the only phrase you know. If the shoe fits…
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4 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said:
I can tell you, I enjoy my life significantly better with more money in my pocket than not.There is a reason money is a significant factor in most couples arguments.
No kidding. I’m just like everyone else. I would suggest people try to find something good and learn from everything they go thru. If you are waiting for money to make you happy you will be waiting a long time. The pandemic certainly wasn’t the only time people have struggled with money. I have struggled a lot with it. I was 31 before I made a decent living and didn’t grow up with much at all. Maybe all that is what made me not freak out about the pandemic and sit around all stoned face like some on here did and expected me to? Anyway I learned not to base my happiness on the size of my wallet. It’s not what makes a person successful or happy!
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31 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
Assumptions?
From the guy who isn't political at all, yet assumes everyone who doesn't agree with him politically is a Trump guy.
Got it.
I don’t care if you agree with me. I didn’t expect you to. I obviously have opinions, I don’t share them outside of here. I’m still not voting no matter what my opinions are. I know that bothers you just like the fact that I know you are a trump guy bothers you. Do share why that bothers you? I’m sure everyone on here cares about what you think. You are the only one who cares what I think. Why? Are you obsessed with me? Should I worry shout a stalker now?
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1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said:
Right. Tell that to the millions of people who lost their jobs and businesses because the government needlessly shut down the country.
Fun times!
Who was in office when the country was shut down? Oh that’s right your buddy trump! Our are you one of the people that like revisionist history?
Did I say I didn’t feel bad for people who lost their jobs? Did I say I didn’t feel bad for people who lost their lives to covid?
Was I going to sit around like I was at a funeral for two years? No.
You make an awful lot of assumptions for not knowing someone. Awful butt hurt because I try to make the best of bad situations in my life. I’m fine with it! You be miserable, I won’t lose sleep.
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3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
I'm still confused by this entire case. What loss did NYS incur as a result of being "defrauded"? This appears to be a crime without a victim.
Did you look it up? What laws apply to this and why they were written? Or are you one of those people that doesn’t understand something and just ***** about it and tries to say the doj has been weaponized?
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2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
What do you mean?
Shutting down the economy for months on end was.....FUN!
So you base your life and weather you enjoy it based on the economy? No wonder you people are miserable!
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18 minutes ago, Doc said:
Why was it a shitshow when he left office? You think Wuhan virus had a lot to do with it?
Dude I’m not going to re hash what was going on in the country when he left office. It’s a waste of my time conversing with people who will defend him at all costs.
I’m not going to tell people to vote for him or Biden. if you want to vote for trump go ahead. but just call it like it is. he’s an ####### and dangerous for the country, admit it and then go vote for him. People just make themselves look stupid trying to defend him. I would have more respect for people if they would just call it like it is.
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I’m all for it. Do it. Clean house. I don’t know much of what happened then outside of trump winning, I don’t think I was paying much attention at that time.
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1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said:
So you know that he never used that property and it's valuation to get a loan?
What you are dealing with is called cognitive dissonance. It's a natural reaction.
And you know that he did? That is why I asked the question if there was more to it let me know. Right now it is just a free market society type of thing. Until you have proof it is more you have no point!
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55 minutes ago, wnyguy said:
Go fill your gas tank and tell me how great it is.
Like I never have. Get real! We’re producing the most oil ever under Biden. Is it his fault?
meanwhile oil companies are making record profits and laughing at you for blaming politics because they are getting away with price gouging you and flying under the radar.
Lesson? Invest in oil companies!
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To be clear I’m not trying to say there are no problems. I’m more just laughing at
the country is completely ruined statement. And I’m not advocating for anybody to vote for Biden. You vote for who you want. Like I said before, it’s like trying to choose between a wet fart and a turd. It’s not like you have many choices who to choose from.
as for accomplishments from what I can see neither side can accomplish anything with all the fighting. What has Congress done? All they do is fight. Republicans can’t get what they want done same for the Dems. No one compromise.
in any Americans day to day life what has either side done?
One thing that surprised the he’ll out of me, after listening for a few years the right trying to tell me how bad the economy was my investment guy called me in to talk. I thought to myself o ***** it is going to bad bad. I thought it probably lost half its value, actually I thought it would be good if that is all it lost! (Retirement account). It more than doubled and it was going to the parent company to be managed and I was going to get the white glove treatment from them. I was shocked!
If you and others want to spew your bull ***** about how bad it is be my guest.
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27 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:
The guy who says he doesn't follow politics, hates politicians and hasn't ever voted has strong opinions about certain politicians and outcomes that seem to lean one in one direction politically.
Shocking.
Also he just wants to be happy and not wallow in the mud with the rest of the PPP swine who certainly must be unhappy by voicing their political opinions here.
Yet here he stays.
Obviously I have been following them the last few years. I told you my brother started talking to me while trump was president, during the start of the pandemic. That whole thing was eating at him.
Let’s just say I graduated high school before the bills Super Bowl run and it took till the pandemic time frame before I payed attention to anything. I knew enough to know who the current president was but I didn’t care who or what party he was from.
i wouldn’t think this stuff would be too hard to understand or that I would need to explain it that much?
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9 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:
It's about pointing out the hypocrisy of one being charged. The other one being defended.
For the same damn thing.
It's all good. Obama, Hillary and Biden are in NYC today to get millions from NYC elite
They are not even close to the same thing? The sale of house compared to going for loans and paying taxes? Weather you think trump should be charged or not is a different story but don’t try to claim they are the same.
believe me, if I can sell my house for $600,000 and its worth only $400,000 I will take the larger amount. If someone is willing to pay it that is what it is worth.
i was a contractor and some of them work the same way. Guys will charge an arm and a leg for a simple job but some people will pay it. It always amazed me.
If there is more to the Stewart thing let me know because I didn’t read up on it.
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1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said:
The guy who says he doesn't follow politics, hates politicians and hasn't ever voted has strong opinions about certain politicians and outcomes that seem to lean one in one direction politically.
Shocking.
You got it. I have lots of opinions about both sides. Some of the Democratic stuff I won’t even get in a conversation about. So you won’t see me comment on it but I would never support abortion. And someone telling me I would have to support lgbtq or gay rights and marriage? Don’t ever tell me that. Nothing would piss me of more!! I don’t care what they do just don’t do it around me or try to tell me I have to accept it. Cancel me, I don’t care. But this is the only time I will comment on it so remember it because I could and would never support the left. Not too mention all the burning of police cars and buildings during protests which I just remembered.
But do I have opinions? Yes, I like to call out the bull *****. And if you noticed (if I remember correctly) the only thing I comment on is stuff surrounding trump. I just hate all the lies and stuff surrounding him. And some other stuff with Biden, I’m not trying to defend him, he has enough crap Of hits own, I just don’t care for the revisionist history.
8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:Well, I'd be interested in a list of actual positive accomplishments of this administration. I can't think of anything. So help me please. And blaming the previous guy? What major mess did he leave?
As for supply chain, you might want to consider the impacts of sanctions on the flow of material and funds around the world. And the inflation caused. That was self-inflicted.
It was a ***** show when he left office if you don’t want to see it that’s fine by me
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2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
This election boils down to your choice of who you think is the cleanest pig in the mud hole. The problem Liz will have is convincing them to vote for an incumbent candidate that has completely ruined our country.
“Completely ruined our country”? LOL. The drama. I love how people try to rewrite history.
I’m sure the last trump ***** store has nothing to do with what Biden inherited.
I’m sure I it’s a conversation that is way above peoples heads. But there is a thing called supply and demand not to mention how the supply chain was thrown out of wack when the pandemic started. That was all started when trump was president. Try to deny it.
” but gas was cheap under trump “ I hear a lot. That’s because no one was driving anywhere. But that is above peoples heads.
“The country is completely ruined” as he eats his 5 th meal of the day and is 40 I’ve overweight, after he drives him to his $500,000 house in a BMW.
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12 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:
Meanwhile if you alter evidence in order to continue spying on a Presidential campaign....no such risk of these consequences in a commie jurisdiction....no you just get your corrupt cronies to grease the slap on the wrist.
But yeah...I'm sure no one will notice these gross examples of two tiered justice and vote accordingly.
The spin doctors are out. Typical, an attempt was made to kill democracy, but who cares right? Let’s deflect blame, lie etc… this is why republicans will not get back the White House.
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8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:
Ex-wife Amazon chick just wrote a check for $600 million to charity. Is she not a billionaire?
Come on, he's worth $6 billion? TPegs bought the Bills for $1.5 billion with a check.
Of course billionaires have a 1/2 billion in cash... OR they aren't billionaires if they don't, just millionaires.
I mean... This is what he's accused of, right, inflating his wealth, lying about it and making money off the fraud he claims to be.
Anyway, let's just say he's just a 6 billionaire... He can't come up with 1/12 his worth in cash. I can come up with 1/12 my worth in cash. 😆
CORRECTION: NOT accused of convicted of.
I think it’s obvious he has never had as much money as he claims. That is why he has never released his taxes.
The guy is obviously a fraud. I find it comical that people try to defend him.
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2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:
So this is about the sale of a penthouse? That is literally the free market society we live in! Thank you for clearing this up. I thought Stewart had some explaining to do Monday night on his show. Now it’s must see tv.
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I just want to enjoy my life and be happy. Are you guys all happy with all the bitching and fighting you do? That is one thing I had to talk to my brother about. I asked him one time when we were talking if he was happy? He asked me what I was talking about? I said every time I talk to him all he does is B word and complain. He listens to pod casts all day at work, Joe Rogan, other stuff like Fox News. There was always an issue that upset him every time we talked, sometimes for the whole conversation. Stupid stuff to. Like Pete Buttigieg taking family leave. Seriously? You going to sit home at night worrying about that? I’m not into that dudes lifestyle but who gives a crap if he takes family leave? I told him I was worried about his happiness/ mental health, stop listening to all that crap.
I’m more upset that Texas metal is a repeat tonight!
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1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:
That's precisely why I asked if you voted in local politics. The outcomes of those elections have a far greater direct impact on you and your family.
Do you really see people get bent out of shape on local city/town/county issues like they do with state or national issues? I don't.
So you've NEVER voted. Sheesh that says a lot.
Yes it says I never wanted to for multiple reasons. I never paid attention so how do I choose someone? I couldn’t in good conscience vote for someone I knew nothing about or a party I knew nothing about. It would never matter here in NY no matter who I voted for. I don’t like politics or politicians, I don’t trust them. You know they are lying when their lips are moving. I have other reasons but that ids good enough for now on a message board.
And locally, I don’t even watch the local news. I don’t even know who got shot or stabbed today around here and I love it!
if trump wins I won’t be able to watch the national news. It’s not a slight against republicans, I just don’t like trump. I couldn’t watch Bidens state of the union. I don’t understand how someone could watch even 5 minutes of that ***** show
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Are you better off today than you were four years ago?
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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Anybody who took their medical advise from a politician or a tv personality got what they deserved. I have no sympathy for them.