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1 minute ago, matter2003 said:
I dunno...he got that team to 7 wins playing with a different QB every week it seemed. I think he showed enough that there was no reason to dismiss him after one year, especially with the way he turned it around after a really bad start.
I felt like their schedule was soft aside from a win over the Texans... But that's me I guess. I felt like they benefited from teams who were out of it and were bad. Much like the Jets "turning it around" down the stretch against bad teams and backups.
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If you want to be technical we have 4 more years...
2020 - Under Rookie Deal
2021 - Pick up the option before the 2020 years starts
2022 - Franchise Tag 1
2023 - Franchise Tag 2 (Provided there are no changes in the new CBA with reference to the FT)Now this is not ideal for anyone, and obviously he wants the security of a long term deal and you don't want to be looking at that much guaranteed money hitting the cap each year, but you have time.
What I would do is pick up the 5th year option and then hammer out an extension that tacks on to the end of that. But again, YOU HAVE TIME. Figure out the best most cap efficient way to throw gobs of money at him, but also have it not hamstring you in the future. You don't want to put too much in signing bonus because it becomes amortized, and that's the stuff thats hard to get out from under late in a contract... you're wearing cap hits for money spent years prior.
Pick up the option, and while you have cap space in 2020 and 2021 see if you can figure out an extension where the bulk of the money is guaranteed. So that way you eat the cap hit in years 1 and 2 of the extension rather than spreading the cap hit over the life of the deal. He's going to want "top CB money" so something in the range of these: (source - Overthecap.com)
Player Team Age Total
Value Avg./Year Total
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Xavien Howard Dolphins 27 $75,250,000 $15,050,000 $46,000,000 $27,185,641 2025 UFA
Josh Norman Redskins 33 $75,000,000 $15,000,000 $50,000,000 $36,500,000 2021 UFA
Trumaine Johnson Jets 30 $72,500,000 $14,500,000 $45,000,000 $34,000,000 2023 UFA
Xavier Rhodes Vikings 30 $70,100,000 $14,020,000 $40,826,000 $20,026,000 2023 UFA
Patrick Peterson Cardinals 30 $70,050,000 $14,010,000 $48,000,000 $16,250,000 2021 UFA
Kyle Fuller Bears 28 $56,000,000 $14,000,000 $18,000,000 $18,000,000 2022 Void
Marcus Peters Ravens 27 $42,000,000 $14,000,000 $31,468,118 $21,000,000 2023 UFA
Desmond Trufant Falcons 30 $68,750,000 $13,750,000 $42,026,000 $20,776,000 2023 UFA
A.J. Bouye Jaguars 29 $67,500,000 $13,500,000 $26,000,000 $26,000,000 2022 UFA
Stephon Gilmore Patriots 30 $65,000,000 $13,000,000 $40,000,000 $31,000,000 2022 UFA
Something like 6 year extension starting in 2021 for $75M with $45M guaranteed... $8M signing bonus amortized over the life of the deal and then you make Years 1 & 2 fully guaranteed for a total of about $20-22M and a roster bonus in 2020 of $7M.Plenty of new money, but it spreads out his cap hits and by year 3 of the deal if needed you can get out of the contract... makes his overall cap hits palatable, and it gives him plenty of up front and guaranteed money as an incentive to sign a cap friendly deal.
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I'm more surprised Denver didn't pull the rip cord and fire Vic Fangio... dude is TRASH...
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Bills over Houston
Titans of Cheaters
Bills over Chiefs
Titans over Ravens
BILLS HOST Titans.... Bills win!
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15 minutes ago, Virgil said:
I don’t know if we want to have multiple threads or not, but here’s the current rumors:
Redskins all in on Rivera. (Did they do their Rooney Rule interview?)
Browns want to interview McDaniels and Roman
Giants?
Skins also interviewed Marvin Lewis, so that was fulfilled already.
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19 minutes ago, whatdrought said:
Crazy realization- only one head coach in the NFC East will be returning... how often does one division see that much turnover?
The Bills, Jets, and Miami have had TONS of coaching turn over int he past 2 decades... why is it surprising? Rex was fired by the Jets and hired by the Bills in the same year... then Gase was fired by the Fins and hired by the Jests in the same year...
The real question is how does that happen twice in 1 division that a team fires a guy and a team in the same division jumps to hire him?
Thank GOD it looks like we got it right and we'll have our GM and HC for the long haul... now I'm just waiting for the Pats to turn over the QB and HC jobs...
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26 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:
You're missing the point. It's not that they need starting-caliber backups; it's that they need backups period. They don't have them. They have safeties instead. It's not about a freak injury; it's about the lack of numbers at the position.
They have plenty of DBs who can play both CB and Safety... you're blowing this way out of proportion.
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22 minutes ago, ChicagoRic said:
I tried to word this so it would not become another "Duke Williams" post, bit have clearly failed. I am interested in actual answers pertaining to special teams. "Foster had some good (5) tackles" is not the depth of explanation I was hoping for.
I think what has makes Foster a "Good Gunner" is his ability to get off the jam at the line and get down field quickly to force fair catches. That's not something that ends up in a stat book for an individual, but that's where his real value is on special teams. If he can get off that first block and be standing next to the returner, which he does very often, then he is doing his job by preventing any return. It helps flip the field, and takes away the big play coming back at the Bills.
So you're correct, 5 tackles isn't much of a stat to base anything on, but if you watch the condensed versions of the games you'll see that he has a knack for using his size and speed to get off the jam at the line and be the first guy down next to the returner to prevent them from running. Doesn't happen every time, but he's very good at it.
The question is, how much MORE value does he offer in that position than other guys, and that I cannot answer.
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I love people melting down about a non-contact freak injury like the coaches should've seen it coming.
The problem with these "Meaningless games" in week 17 is they're preseason games without PRESEASON ROSTERS... there is a reason the NFL Changed cut downs from 90 to 53 until after the final preseason game. They didn't want to risk injuries to anyone of consequence. That's not the case when you have a 53 with only 44 active on game day.
They had to play guys who mattered this week, there was no way around it, and if you are seriously complaining that the Bills don't have enough starting caliber DBs, you need to get a freaking clue. We have one of the best secondaries in the NFL! No one has multiple starting grade CBs sitting the bench behind their starters "just in case". It just doesn't happen because there are 32 teams with 2 to 3 starting CBs EACH... that's 64 to 96 starting CBs, many of whom really aren't starting caliber but start anyways, and you want us to stock pile extras? Sounds great, but entirely unrealistic.
We have some fantastic Depth at CB, and while IMHO the #2 need behind pass rush this defense needs in 2020 is a #2 CB, they have not mismanaged ANYTHING. They have handled their business adding players in the draft in FA and they've built the #2 pass Defense int he NFL. You simply cannot add every piece you may need all at once... they've taken a slow methodical approach to roster building so as to not damage their cap situation and to bring in THE RIGHT guys for their scheme and team.
Wallace was a diamond in the rough who blossomed... we still need a #2 Corner who can be counted on on the outside more than the play we've gotten opposite Tre, but they gave Johnson & Johnson the chance to see if either could be that guy this year. Like I said, you can't do everything all at once. They'll add another CB in the draft in 2020, probably in rounds 1, 2, or 3... but they did a fantastic job building this team and while there are holes, ever team has holes. They did nothing wrong with how they prepared for this season or this game for that matter with regards to the secondary.
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4 hours ago, aristocrat said:
saints going for a super bowl. they can control him for a month don't ya think?
Pats couldn't...
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I actually liked deadspin but I love the move to revolt against a conglomerate forcing pegs into holes Ana shitting on a successful company.
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I've been asking for this going back to NE!
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On 10/26/2019 at 4:47 PM, KD in CA said:
Yeah, I always thought he was terrible....along with the rest of the Daily News sports coverage. Do they still feature Lupica and his 'I'm a short, whiny, super-PC version of Dan Shaughnessy' act?
Is there another way to feature Lupica other than being a whiny B word?
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I remember my first thread.... Went about this well too man.
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37 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
To be fair, one should probably point out that Mehta for years has kind of been Jets' perennial critic. Like Jerry Sullivan but funnier and with more use of actual facts.
But yeah, since when is the coach, the leader, supposed to wait for a player to talk to him? If it's true they benched or were about to bench Osemele, isn't that reason for the HC to proactively talk to the guy and lay it out (we're making a change, this is why, this is what we need to see from you to get your job back)? If it's true the Jets have questions about his injury and it's not being resolved at lower levels, isn't that time for the HC to step in and see what the guy's story is?
Mehta is a Jets Fan boy who goes 100 MPH for them when things are good and 100MPH against when they're bad. He has zero journalistic integrity ...
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21 minutes ago, Seven-N-Nine said:
She's dead you know.
Does that mean you can't use a gif with her in it anymore?
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2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...would contradict articles about establishing rapport with Tannehill............
Yeah but there were reports Zay was developing chemistry with Allen in the off-season and we all saw how that played out lol.
Most of these reports from practice are just like the ones from camp, largely space filler for beat reports during the week. Some are true, most are fluff.
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Corey Davis (undisclosed) was sidelined for Wednesday's practice.
It could very well be nothing, but it's at least worth monitoring heading into Thursday since Davis isn't a usual Wednesday rest candidate. Delanie Walker (ankle) was sidelined, too. Davis should be fully entrusted as a WR3 against Tampa Bay's pass funnel if he's good to go for Week 8.
I'll put on my tin foil hat and say.... yes... we are sniffing around and they put him in moth balls to keep him from getting hurt.
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This is a freaking mess for the NFL. I am certain there will be an investigation, and I am equally certain the general public will never know the full picture because the NFL Will kick it under the carpet so no one judges them for doping up players so they keep playing despite bad injuries... a practice that's gone on for decades, and the NFL has been sued over numerous times.
I don't trust the team doctors at all, but if his health situation was in question so much that he sought out 3 different independent medical opinions, there is 1) obviously something wrong there, and 2) he was looking for a doctor who agreed with him. If the team doctors and the first 2 independent doctors told him he could play, but the third said he needed surgery and scheduled it immediately, then sounds to me like he wanted to shut it down and have surgery.
Now to be 100% honest, I am fine with that. Just because the Team doesn't agree, doesn't mean the dude wasn't in an extreme amount of pain and didn't need surgery. It just means they wanted him to play through it and he didn't want to. I feel bad for the guy that they're going after him for wanting to do what's right by his body. It's not like this is elective surgery like having a nose job lol. He should be the one to determine if the pain is too much for him to play out the season, not the team.
The team pressuring him is a TERRIBLE look regardless of how the process all played out. And if there is any truth to them just doping up players to get them ready to play regardless of injuries, then they should be fined and penalized at least a draft pick.
2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:"The source says the Jets have been attempting to delay surgery by sending blank and incorrect MRI images to doctors...even going as far as refusing to release workers comp forms."
There is no way this is true, I dont believe it
Yeah I think it's highly unlikely they'd open themselves up to this kind of lawsuit... I don't doubt maybe they sent the wrong thing at some point, but no way it was intentional. At best that kind of tactic may be able to delay surgery for what? A day? A Week? There are still 9 weeks left in the season, it's not like they thought they could pull a fast one by sending the wrong MRI and get this guy to play out the year lol.
This sounds like a lot of leaks from the player to smear the team. AGAIN I don't doubt the team did some shady ***** with giving him drugs to mask the pain and asked him to play through it, but I have such a hard time believing all the stuff coming out, it's just insane... if it's true then so be it and the Jets are a DISASTER and a bunch of ***** bags... but I just can't believe it without some sort of proof.
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NFL Update@MySportsUpdate
Michael Bennett isn’t happy with his role in New England. Bennett told reporters that he took nothing away from his one-game suspension for conduct detrimental. “I got suspended, lost money. What am I supposed to take away from that?"
Do you want to be traded? "It's up to them."
3:19 PM · Oct 23, 2019·TweetDeck
If they cut him, would you sign him?
Current deal:
Current Contract
(?: indicates contract trigger occuring during that year)
Year Age Base Salary Prorated Bonus Per Game Roster Bonus Cap
NumberCap % Dead Money & Cap Savings
Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension2019 34 $3,000,000 $2,000,000 $1,500,000 $6,323,529 3.4% $2,000,000 $4,323,529 2020 35 $7,000,000 $2,000,000 $1,250,000 $10,250,000 5.1% $2,000,000 $8,250,000 Total $10,000,000 $4,000,000 $2,750,000 $16,573,529 -
the Bills will look for a CB in the next few years in the draft in the event they can't keep White (which not doing so would be a mistake)... I bet we use a 1st or 2nd in the next 2 years on another CB. McDermott's D needs at least 1 lock down corner, and White is that, but I see then planning just in case they can't keep him.
Outside of that Levi is fine, he's not amazing, but he's fine. It's harder than it sounds to have 2 CBs like White since he's top 5 in the NFL.
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2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
He is still rubbish. But yes, you were right, someone liked him enough to sign him.
Oh my god, I got someone on the internet to say I was right... I may retire ?
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13 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
The Giants are barely an NFL team.
Still better than the Dolphins, Skins, and Bungles.... and he's still in the NFL... That was the point, your hyperbole about his lack of skills are obviously not shared in NFL circles. Thanks for the input though.
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8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
He is much worse than you ae giving him credit for. Honestly he is done in the NFL.
Hmmmm....
Giants signed LB Deone Bucannon.
The 2014 first-round bust was waived by the Bucs 13 days ago. In theory, 27-year-old Bucannon brings versatility to a defense. In reality, he will probably begin as a healthy scratch and is unlikely to make it more than a few weeks in the Big Apple.
Oct 22, 2019, 4:14 PM ET
No NFL Interest in Roman?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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He's a system OC who needs a very specific set of things to be successful, and frankly he becomes predictable as well. Right now he has an amazingly talented QB out there making things happen, which takes pressure off him. Once teams get a feel for this offense they will adapt. The X Factor is Jackson not Roman. JMO...