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11 hours ago, FireChans said:
I’ve never been when it’s not empty.
I've never been there when it's empty.
2 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said:Hey good post, thanks for coming to town.
If it makes any difference, my dad really likes 716. The handful of times I’ve ended up there were after HS games at Harbor Center. Kinda built in audience, especially in January when you don’t want to get in and out of cars/weather to go elsewhere.
And yes, the atmosphere at The Ralph/NErF is always great. We have an awesome throwback vibe here, as you mentioned. 8 extra holidays a year!
After high school games does not equate to when it is good. It's got a great atmosphere for Bills, Sabres and other games..........If you're going there for a great meal, you've gone to the wrong place.
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7 hours ago, Mango said:
This is a weird slide and obviously never should have been included in any presentation at any level. If one of the Pegula's presented or signed off on them, shame on them. It sort of reads "Win Games---Turn the business over to my kids/Generational wealth---Don't make me sell my yacht". I am honestly not sure how else you read it. The title of the effing slide is "Pegula Family Goals (PSE)". Based on the content, it definitely does not read as "PSE is a family". This is tone deaf to say the least...
It definitely does. Every friggin thing claims it's family now. Every organization, school, etc.
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20 minutes ago, Lurker said:
This thread has become really boring, but to be clear, Graham didn't say that...
A handout version of the slide, obtained and verified by The Athletic, listed the Pegulas’ three chief objectives: win championships, sustainability, return on investment.
Pegula, current and former employees say, explained that return on investment included maintaining the family’s lifestyle.
“People were walking out of those meetings like they’d been punched in the gut,” a Bills management source said. “We just made the playoffs in the NFL, where it’s impossible to lose money. We’re firing on all cylinders. Now we have to pinch pennies?
I am still having a hard time how somebody goes from Return on investment - to punched in the gut.
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54 minutes ago, Magox said:
You can still be greedy while investing in it without it dropping precipitously. I don't know where in the oil sector you would plan on investing but there are a considerable amount of them that won't end up surviving. I used to trade a lot of oil for a commodities investment brokerage years back and these sort of drops BBB are unlike anything I have ever seen.
I was just joking. It seems like every old adage has an opposite old adage.
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16 minutes ago, Magox said:
The old adage applies, "Never try to catch a falling knife".
What about the old adage of "being greedy when others are fearful"
I don't know which old adage to use!
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42 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
It's a very well written article and I'm sure the employees there have a legitimate grievance about how some of this was handled. In general I just don't see anything here I didn't already know
How is it well written when we all knew this stuff already? Because it's long?
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19 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
It is a good piece of journalism.
I guess people see what they want to see. I see a ton of words, not saying much.
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This guy has to be the dumbest of dumb asses
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2 hours ago, Lurker said:
I learned that
- Two sources close to Bills head coach Sean McDermott say the January meetings left him concerned about low morale eroding the culture he and general manager Brandon Beane have cultivated over the past three years with a meticulous, holistic attitude.
- ...A league source took note of that proclamation, saying “That’s the Pegulas sending a message to their NFL peers that their other business decisions are not impacting their competitiveness. Roger Goodell pays attention to things like that.”
- future stadium and arena costs — newly built or renovated — already have been incorporated into their business decisions.
- Today, the price of natural gas is $1.78, and oil is at $17.66 a barrel (actually, $7.50 bbl as I type this).
Curious. Why are you such a vociferous defender of the premise this story is wrong or biased? Do you have any direct knowledge of the situation that would refute Graham's research?
If the two anonymous sources are legit, I'll give you the first bullet point. That is concerning.
Point two - I figured as much on my own
Point three - not sure what that really means
Point four - I knew they were low. Good to get the up to the minute pricing.........Actually, shows to me that they have legit concerns all over their businesses - and aren't just being aholes.
I'm not saying it's wrong, but I am saying it's biased - and an incredibly long and boring story saying the same thing over and over again. If you don't think it was set up to be a biased hit piece, I don't know what to tell you. His "research" is not reaching out to a a sample of a number of employees. His "research" is putting up a tweet saying disgruntled employees, let's hear your story!
The only article that went on with the same thing over and over in a worse way was Vogl's so called interview with Larry Quinn. Every paragraph was him saying "it makes no sense"
1 hour ago, dneveu said:That's basically where I'm at. Keep dragging them Tim, it means nothing to me. I still like the bills and sabres.
If he and the rest of the media and social media keep dragging them, you might not have either team to like for long.
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3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:
Not saying that didn’t happen, but as a guy in commission sales for going on 30 years, commissions are always all buggered up.
lord knows what the plan was , how complicated it is, what they use to calculate it, what SPIFs ( incentives) are in in a given month.
my over generalization is 90% of commission reports have an error on them , and the average sales person spends about 10% of their time reviewing, correcting, and fighting for what’s owed them!
1 minute ago, dneveu said:Yeah - they may have changed from a flat rate to a quota system, or any number of those random things consultants come in and propose. Any change to a sales persons pay structure is met with disdain.
Well, I'll scratch the only thing in the whole article that actually said something.
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5 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:
I could "understand if it is tied to their downtown debt. Sabres, not so much.'
I agree. That number makes no sense!
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47 minutes ago, Lurker said:
No vendetta. But, thanks for giving me a good laugh...
Tell me one thing you learned from this so called article. I'll tell you the only thing that had any meat to it. The fact that ticket sellers weren't getting their commissions. Everything else was just mush.
44 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:quotes from 39 disgruntled employees does not make things "facts". Sure sounds like something nefrious was going on with some these people..
That's how you get this mush
28 minutes ago, Doc said:How can that be? They would have sold the team by now.
I would think!
26 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:I dunno, i was just lazily remembering what I thought I saw in an article I just read. If bbb went back and looked it up, his numbers are probably more accurate than mine.
Actually, Timmah's lazy writing leaves both interpretations now that I think about - could be my number over two years or yours over one.
9 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:Do you know if that's Sabres, or if it includes Harbor Center etc.?
Who knows - it's from Timmah's "source"
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1 minute ago, ndirish1978 said:
They are reportedly losing 20-30M per year on the Sabres per Tim Graham
A source with knowledge of the numbers said the Sabres have been losing between $40 million and $60 million the past few seasons.
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25 minutes ago, Lurker said:
So? They appear to be accurate and well-invistigated words...
Really? Cost cutting, cost cutting, cost cutting. Really well investigated enough to write a super long article repeating the same words. But, you have your vendetta so you buy in and think it's a great article.
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32 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
A lot of words to say the same thing over and over and over.
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2 hours ago, SeattleBills said:
As a marketing exec, I completely concur with another billionaire who “gets it”. Mark Cuban says how companies treat workers during pandemic could define their brand 'for decades'. The excuse-making around here for the Pegulas is pathetic. They are tone-deaf and clueless. Would love to see either’s horsepower in a corporate environment such as Microsoft or Amazon ... where you have to have a brain and common sense as well. Talk about timing being key; in any other life this dude and his wife would be shleps in real life from net worth standpoint ... you know, the way they are from character standpoint.
You have 14 posts and most of them are about the Pegulas. Nothing suspicious here.
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1 hour ago, Wacka said:
I cam't remember the comedian's name , but he does a perfect imitation of Maher. The guy has his condescending smarminess down to a T. I hear him on Adam Carolla's podcast occasionally.
That guy's hilarious.
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9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:
There are few things I hate more than Bill Maher's audience.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
not happening Rico, it wont be 32, but probably 8
They better have the first round at home fields. These fans are not going to neutral sites three weeks in a row.
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4 hours ago, PastaJoe said:
Pretty sure. I’m suprised no one got it yet. He’s also on tv on Sundays.
Michael Strahan
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7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
don't care, want those crazy playoff games.!!
But, you quoted me saying this "Talk bout diluting the best regular season there is." - huge games that go on for three months will be rendered practically meaningless. LSU-Bama is the top game of the year for the last decade or so. With this, it wouldn't mean anything since they'd both be getting in the playoffs.
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7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
32 works for me, more games more fun, more money, win win.
Works for basketball with March Madness, maybe they can call it December Dominance
You and Promo need to understand what the regular season means! ?
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10 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:
There's a certain amount of circular logic here...They're not experts. The 'experts' can't afford a team (and are usually wrong when they get hired to pick). The Pegulas have to hire someone..either the GM or the people who hire the GM. Blaming them outright for Murray and Botterill is long road to hoe because both had the resume to recommend they become GMs. There's no science to it (or perhaps better to say that there are way too many variables involved to accurately predict successful GMs) that the Pegulas are just *bad* at and could be working harder to get better at..
Sure, you can hang around and be like, "I never wanted them! I'd be better at picking the GM!", but a couple things there. You likely wouldn't and you have the lovely ability of not actually having to put your picks where your mouth is...you never actually have to see how your decisions play out. This idea that because the Pegula's bought a team that they should suddenly have some sort of magic ability to pick a GM that is better than the GMs of 15+ other teams is sort of a silly idea.
Reality also kinda demands that if you're going to point out something wrong, what's the alternative? Who's the magical owner with the mastery of hockey knowledge that should be running the sabres? Who's the magic owner who *knows* who to hire? There's maybe 3-4 of those guys in the league. I'm gonna go ahead and be on the side that the other potential bidders weren't going to be better at picking a GM than the Pegulas.
Pretending that there's some sort of nefarious power trip from the pegulas that is making them bad is a conspiracy theory and may make some people feel better for some reason, but occam's razor...finding a GM / Coach Players is:
A) Hard
B) Often has a ton of factors that may or may not even be known to anyone that affects their success
I think it's a far more productive discussion of the Pegulas on what they are doing to ensure the GM/Team has success that's directly in their control.
Does the team have great facilities? Can they spend to the cap? Does the team provide solid 'extras' (staff like skating coaches, meals, etc, etc)? Do the owners have a positive reception among the league? Do they own and operate minor league teams that struggle with profitability so the organization has control and can teach the same system?? There's a number of questions that make more sense then lampooning their (and most of the league's) inability to hire the right GM for sustained success and I'd genuinely be interested in the answers to these questions.
This is one of the best posts I've ever seen on the subject. I'm getting in constant arguments about this.
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I'd really like to know, too..................China pays a lot. Andrew Nicholson of Bonas, who was the 19th pick in the NBA draft and played about 4 years or so in the league was making $3M a year when he first got to China. He's done really well and is probably making more at this point.