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  1. So now Trump is trying to help. Now what will these SJW say. Will they refuse to give names and help the people they kneeling for. Will the y refuse to meet with our president. NFL players issues should be discussed on this football fourm not PPP 

    these are concerns the NFL players and team owners. 

     

    lets discuss 

     

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/06/08/president-trump-asks-nfl-players-to-recommend-people-for-pardons/

     

     

    By by the way this is on Pro-football talk. They talk about football and Bills players are In the NFL

     

    So they can talk about it in their football fourm. so should we in our football fourm not PPP. 

     

  2. Just because the draft is over does not mean it still can’t happen. Bills trade first and 3rd in 2019 

    for him. Also Beane hinted in his Interview on WGR 

    about adding a WR. Plus the falcons took a WR Ridley of Alabama with their first round pick this year. Just start adding up all the stuff. Why would a team that has plenty of good Wide Receivers draft one in the first round.  Maybe they don’t want to pay him and make him the highest paid WR In football. Then there is this article about the Falcons not being happy about their Receivers. 

     

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/thefalconswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/01/4-questions-about-the-falcons-2018-nfl-draft-class/amp/

     

     

  3. 14 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha - the knee jerk, paranoid posts here just prove my point.

     

    Thurmanator12074 - You are going to need major Rx.  I see your QB Josh Allen overboard, paranoid. defensive posts everywhere.  If anyone mentions the slightest flaw in QB Josh Allen you're right there to jump all over that poster.  You have completely lost it!

     

    You're only validating what anti-QB Josh Allen people think.  Don't you realize this?

     

    :P

     

     

    Your +6 reputation points after 15 years tells me everything I need to know peralhowardman. 

  4. 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

     

     

    so that's what you got out of the video?

     

     

     

    thanks for sharing OP.

    Yes because he is looking at the video through Rosen color glasses. Then you wonder why he posts something like that. Well now you have your answer. 

    11 minutes ago, aceman_16 said:

    I agree.  Also,  you should add,  you have never seen any Bills QB be so battered and criticized BEFORE ever playing an NFL down.  As I have said multiple times,  he was NOT my first choice but he was the BILLS choice. I will support the young man and see what he can do.  Finally,  do you think linking a documentary about him without commentary from the linker as defensive?

    let me answer this for him. I’m a Josh Rosen fan I hate Allen so much. If the Bills can’t have Rosen I will log onto his this site and bash Allen a Million times over his career and at least a 1,000 times before his first real Reg season NFL game. 

  5. 28 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

    All I know is:  I've been a member of Two Bills Drive and TSW for over15 years and I've never seen so many posters so defensive about criticism of any player.  Defensive of QB Josh Allen to the point of being completely unhinged from reality.

     

    Posters here are mentally losing it when faced with valid criticism of QB Josh Allen.  This tells me, and others, exactly what the real prospect of 8 man high school football/community college/Mountain West Conference QB Josh Allen will likely be.

     

    Not good.

     

    :wacko:

    All I know is:  I've been a member of Two Bills Drive and TSW for over 18 years and I've never seen so many posters so overtly critical of the Bills brass because they did not draft the QB ( Rosen ) that they wanted. To the point of being completely unhinged from reality.

     

    Posters here are mentally losing it when faced with the reality that Rosen was drafted by the Arizona Cardinals and that Josh Allen is the better QB and rated by many draft experts and NFL scouts ahead of Allen. This tells me, they can not accept reality and should consider becoming Arizona Cardinal fans. 

     

    Not good.

  6. Epic post Dondab99, you hit the nail on the head with Allen. There is more then statistics with this QB. can you imagine if this guy played with Mason Rudolph’s wideouts. He would have broke every record in the book. no need to say any more you really cover it. Hopefully some of the other Allen haters will realize how lucky we are that we got Allen and did not have to mortgage the future. I am so happy and excited that we have him. He is a dream come true. 

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  7. 2 hours ago, BillsRdue said:

    We, the fans of the Bills are skeptical by nature. We have endured some God-awful football and have been sold a bill of rights each off-season to keep us buying.

    But this all changed with the new regime. We, like the players, were asked to buy into a "process." As some of you pointed out, "this process seems clear," and the Bills organization is on its way to becoming a perennial contender. 

     

    Why? Because everything this FO does is with purpose and passion. They are well-organized, creative, bold, and knowledgeable. Everyone is expected to do their homework, bring their best to the table and give it your all. Those who don't are gone! - We've seen it with last years purge.

     

    No matter what I think about the selections. Each one had a purpose and piece in the overall puzzle. Shaw's Sling It and Bring It post really brought this point to the table for us to see.  Many of you great posters were racing to find info on the pick --- BAM!!!!  The Bills FO had beautiful profile graphics and info and videos on the players online MINUTES AFTER EACH PICK!

     

    That was awesome!!! When have we ever seen this in our history. That tells me that we know who we wanted. We had a plan and we got our men! Granted they may have made 2-3 for each round before, but the point is, that no matter what happened, they know who they were going to take. And that player's unique skill set was going to help in the overall vision of THE TEAM.

     

    This is what they are looking for:

     

    First and foremost, --- You are a TEAM PLAYER. Your not here to build stats and greenbacks, you are here because you love playing the game. You love it so much that you will eat, sleep, dream, piss and **** football. You love it so much, you will embrace Buffalo and its rabid fans. You have the Kyle Williams mentality. You are here to win a championship and make this city proud.

     

    #2 You have EXCEPTIONAL SKILLS.  There is something about you that makes you ONE step faster, ONE hit harder, ONE move ahead of the rest of your peers. We will mold that skill and put it to use in OUR SYSTEM.  We understand how we want to use your talent and you are going to buy into it 100%.  

     

    #3 You understand these skills are a part of the machine. If you are trying to use them by yourself you will fail, because a well-oiled machine needs 11 parts operating in complete unison on every play.  If this breaks down anywhere, we will evaluate and fix it. You take joy in working with this machine. You take joy that the 10 parts around you are succeeding, because we work together. You love your role.  You have THE ATTITUDE OF A CHAMPION.

     

    #4 You come PREPARED. You are SELF-MOTIVATED because there is nothing you want more than that SUPER BOWL RING.  You take it upon yourself to reach your maximum potential. We are with you to help you do that. To become the best you can be.  You want to put the extra time in, the extra reps in. You want to watch the film, learn the playbook and practice these concepts with your teammates until you perfect them..

     

    #5 WE ARE A FAMILY. Know that you can communicate with us about anything. Share your life with your coaches and teammates. Let us get to know you like a brother. If something is bothering you, don't be afraid to speak up.  Become a LEADER!  In your home, in your community, on this team. Lead by example. . (Last years sharing chats were masterful at setting this up) 

     

    This is what the Front Office is accomplishing and that MAKES ME PROUD TO BE A BILLS FAN.  This is my type of team because it encompasses everything our city is and stand for. I'm very excited to see how these pieces come together. I trust it for the first time in a long time. And if there are some growing pains, it's okay because I see this goal and understand we are working toward it with these concepts in mind.

     

    GO BILLS!!!!!

     

     

     

     

     

    The Best post of the year, Hands down. 

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  8. 1 hour ago, Augie said:

     

    I don’t think this is nitpicking, but total yards is about the ONLY area where the stats are even close. Wentz had a much better completion percentage (64 vs 56), better YPA, much better TD/Int ration, better passer rating, etc. You lose credibility if you try to say his stats were just as good - they were not. Now, I’m not saying Allen can’t be the guy, I’m just saying if you make stuff up you might get corrected. 

    Carson Wentz 
        Passing
    Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
    Career North Dakota State         392

     

    612

    64.1 5115 8.4 8.8 45 14 153.9
    2012 North Dakota State MVC FR QB 8 12 16 75.0 144 9.0 11.5 2 0 191.9
    2013 North Dakota State MVC SO QB 11 22 30 73.3 209 7.0 7.6 1 0 142.9
    2014 North Dakota State MVC JR QB 16 228 358 63.7 3111 8.7 8.8 25 10 154.1
    2015 North Dakota State MVC SR QB 7 130 208 62.5 1651 7.9 8.7 17 4 152.3

    Josh allen

     

        Passing
    Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
    Career Wyoming         365 649 56.2 5066 7.8 7.7 44 21 137.7
    2015 Wyoming MWC SO QB 2 4 6 66.7 51 8.5 8.5 0 0 138.1
    *2016 Wyoming MWC SO QB 14 209 373 56.0 3203 8.6 8.3 28 15 144.9
    *2017 Wyoming MWC JR QB 11 152 270 56.3 1812 6.7 6.9 16 6 127.8

    Josh Allen one less TD then Wentz he played 15 less games also 100 less passing yards basically then Wentz again in 15 less games. Also Wentz played on a better team with better offensive line. So yes what would or could  Allen have done with 15 more games of stats.  I think probably a lot more. I will take Allen every time. 

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  9. 12 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

    You got it right Thurminator - except he was at Jr. college only 1 year. I think Bills brass didn't think that Rosens personality and desires were a match for Buffalo. In addition to their concerns of his long-term durability. He is probably a great passer when the pocket is safe, but when it breaks down around him he's done. 

     

    What I've noticed is that former NFL players - Phil Simms, Trent Dilfer, Chris Carter seem to love Allen. Stats geeks who haven't played the game are his critics. I think he can be really special., He reminds me of a young, less refined John Elway. We all need patience with Bills coaches and not rush the kid onto the field too soon. Let him develop properly. We can go 0-16 this year, just don't crew up the development of Allen. 

    you are spot on with this. loved this post, my onw eyes do not lie to me. I’m not looking at stats when I watch these 2 guys play. I look at what is going on In front of them and what they have to deal with. Allen is a special talent with the arm talent that may be the best ever coming out of college. Rosen is also good but has limitations 

    moving around or out side the pocket. Allen has no limits. Roll him out left or right. Do RPO plays. Play from the pocket. Larger stronger body and most importantly a team first player. 

  10. He got passed over because Allen is the better QB and was the best QB in this draft bar none. Rosen is going to find that he is not going to get his way in the NFL. He needs an attitude adjustment. Also he already failed his first test when he had a epic melt down on being the 4th QB drafted. How did Allen do on his first test. He stood up and took responsibility for his texts. He said it was on him and he showed remorse. Also Allen did not go to a private upscale high school football program and play at the posh UCLA. Allen did not get everything handed to him, he had to earn it the hard way. No he played 8 man football in High School. He wrote 1000 colleges and got turned down. Basically his own home town college Fresno State turned him down twice. Then 1 year of Jr college football with crappy coaching.Then got lucky ? and finally got a break. Went to Wyoming and got some coaching.

     

    His statistics were as good as Carson Wentz but Allen did it in 15 less games then Wentz. All the while getting them to 2 bowl games. Wyoming hardly ever gets into Bowl games. His senior year he was running for his life behind a poor offensive line and still almost completed 60 percent. Then proceeds to hire and work with Jordon Palmer and he helps him correct his flaws with his foot work. He then proceeds to have a great bowl game and senior bowl where he completes almost 70 percent of his passes and 2TD’s and is the player of the game. I would say this is the sort of player I want on the Buffalo Bills, a guy who is willing to take responsibility for his actions. A guy who is humble and is about being part of the team concept. His arm talent is Rogers, Elway and Farve like. He is mobile and can move and throw on the run like Rogers. He is also smart he scored the best on the Wonderlic test 37. He is coachable and willing to listen. Plus Beane told you what he was looking for in a QB he said it out loud and signaled that to everyone in the media what he would be trying to do. He also said he would trade up to do it. NYG never were going to trade out of the 2 spot. Cleveland like wise at 4. 

     

     

    So Beane makes a deal with Denver to get Allen which would cost him both number ones. That the deal falls through because chubb falls to Denver. So Bills keep trying and hit pay dirt at 7 with Tampa. This is really where it gets interesting. Most thought it would be Rosen but if you had been listening to Beane through the whole process there was never a chance he would take Rosen over Allen because Allen fit the Can Newton profile he is on board with. Beane told us what his QB model and what he would do when it came time to draft. Do you know how I know Beane got this right. Marv Levy once said when you start listening to the fans on personal decisions and team strategy you basically become in effective and need to go or it will get you fired. He said you go with your convictions and you stay strong. Also Bill Polian also said these things when criticized by the media.

     

     

    I seem to recall those 2 guys Levi and Polian were here under the most amazing run in team history. Basically winning more games in the 1990’s then any team in Football. I think I will side with GM Beane and coach Mcdermott. After 17 years they did something no coach or GM was able to do. Get us into the playoffs. They got rid of players that did not fit their program even while they were being criticized in the media and by fans. People were up in arms as one player after another was shown the door. Boy who does this sound like. Sounds like Marv Levy and Bill Polian to me. I think we’re in good hands people. Success is right around the corner and lots of winning will take place. I’m hoping you Rosen fans can get over your disappointment and come along for the ride. There is still room on the Allen train ? hop aboard before it leaves the station. 

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