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  1. Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    his VP disagrees with you and will testify under oath after swearing on a bible.  Do you believe he will lie under oath?  Is his faith a show?  I don't think so.

    That doesn't matter, why did htey need to change the procedure after the fact? This is all legal theory, he thinks he didn't have the right, other scholars think he did. Who you choose to believe is beside the point, there is a question, enough of a question that they needed to change the law. WHY? Answer the dang question! 

    Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    splain...no idea

    He has no moral authority over me.

    Time to work while you all sit in your mother's basements drinking the liberal coolaid and allowing the destruction of our constitution. See ya.

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  2. 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    sure.  I won't be inciting an attack on the pillars of our government and great country.  I like the way it was designed and has worked for almost 150 years.  Traitors don't.

    duck and bob...

    It's called his moral authority is none at all. Do you give your moral authority to him? 

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  3. Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    sure.  I won't be inciting an attack on the pillars of our government and great country.  I like the way it was designed and has worked for almost 150 years.  Traitors don't.

    Right, so you're a lunatic who thinks asking people to "peacefully" go to the capital and protest is the same as leading a riot? That is very loose, that is why it will be used in many different ways if it's allowed to go through and Trump is convicted, but you don't care, you get to feel good for about a day if he gets convicted, TDS man. 

    1 minute ago, Kemp said:

     

    If you can't answer, you can't answer.

     

    Moral indignation is all you have.

    I don't need to explain my moral stance to you, I only have to have that discussion with my family and God, see your way out of the conversation. I will say supporting the constitution and not having it burned down to take out one person is not a morally inept stance, it is your stance that is. I'll leave it at that.

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  4. 1 minute ago, Kemp said:

     

    As a Catholic, how do you defend the least moral man I've ever seen in American politics?

     

    You realize he's not a Christian. 

     

    That no one lies more than him.

     

    That he cheats on his wife.

     

    That when asked if he has anything in life to atone for, he said no.

     

    The only way a Catholic could logically support him is by forgiving him for all his sins, which means you could support anyone on the planet, including Joe Biden.

    "As a Catholic, how do you defend the least moral man IVE EVER SEEN in American politics?" 

    You think I give you any credence for your moral stances? You do not speak for me or anyone else here, your feelings have no bearings at all. You really think highly of yourself dont you? 

     

    Don't try and give me a lecture on my religion, outsider.

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  5. 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    We will be.  He's going to be found guilty by a jury of his peers.

    Oh, in a bright blue Fulton County with bent prosecutors and judges? Yeah, that will look like justice to the entire country OR it will further degrade trust in the insitutions. My money is on the latter but you don't care. You just have that TDS, you love it, you lap it up, you enjoy it, and when they're carrying you out in shackles for something you said that led to someone else doing something, even if it has nothing to do with what they did, what will you tell the devil then? 

  6. 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    the line is drawn at treason.

    There is NO TREASON if its constitutionally allowed. Wow, it's really this bad, people are really not smart are they? I really thought people would see it for what it is, but the liberals have a wool over their eyes like I've never seen before. It's crazy.  I wonder what would happen, should Trump win the election. Probably stand out in the middle of the street and scream to the skies? Or maybe some violence from Antifa, maybe we'll see a J6 style "insurrection" from the other side. Would be interesting I suppose. Desantis 2024 but if not him then Trump 2024, just to see democracy prevail and the blood coming out of the eyes of crazies like those on this board. 

    Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:

    I'm not so sure Trump "walk into jail" on any of these charges.

     

    Of the 4 cases the document case seems like it has the greatest legal argument.  Pending hearing the specific evidence and the prosecutors argument, not so much.

     

    The Bragg case, falsifying business records.  The premise I understand is a payment was made to Daniels that was "improperly" booked to an improper account on the business ledger.  Not a numerical error, or a tax payment error, but a transaction was logged to the incorrect sub-ledger account, on purpose.  To hide the payment.  So what?  Generally, the purpose of making a discreet payment under an NDA is to keep things quiet.  And what exactly was the tangible damage done to the State of New York or any other party?  Nothing.  This should get thrown out on day 1.

     

    The J6 conspiracy and obstruction charge related to the "insurrection".  Real simple.  Trump was already charged by the House and acquitted by the Senate for his involvement in fomenting the J6 events with the second impeachment trial.  The current charges are double jeopardy.  Wouldn't be surprised the first motion the defense makes are this reason for grounds to dismiss the charges, which I don't think this biased judge will grant and then see the defense petition the Supreme Court here requesting the charges be dismissed based on the double jeopardy clause of the Constitution.

     

    The Georgia case.  Want to hear and see more than discussions and expressions of displeasure with the outcome.  Being a sore loser is not a crime if that's what its all about hear. 

     

    The document case.  This one has merit.  All Trump had to do was turn over the documents to the Achiever.  Stupidity and arrogance.

     

     

    I happen to agree with the documents case being the most teeth, but look my earlier statement as to why this one cannot be prosecuted for the absolute double standard and the loss of trust in the institutions if he was to be convicted (Biden/Hilary).

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  7. Just now, Kemp said:

     

    You're just sitting by, unless you were one of the tourists on 1/6.

    Oh, the old "I know you are but what am I", that's what you got? I've struck a nerve. You all are too dense to understand what this is actually doing to our country, TDS on steroids. 

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  8. 1 minute ago, Kemp said:

     

    Either you didn't read the RICO indictment or you don't understand  it.

     

    It makes sense that you believe in Satan, though.

    Also, I understand RICO very well, your making sweeping statements like that does nothing for your argument. This is a huge misuse of RICO even if Georgia has a more expansive understanding. You will start to see big parts of this being thrown out in the initial proceedings, watch! 

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  9. Just now, Kemp said:

     

    Either you didn't read the RICO indictment or you don't understand  it.

     

    It makes sense that you believe in Satan, though.

    I am a Catholic, so yes, I do believe in Satan, does that trigger you? 

    Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    To ensure that crackpot, traitorous lawyers and pols never pull this sh1te again.  There.  Was that so difficult.  You called it a loophole.  It was a perverse misinterpretation of law.  sadly, we had to make it idiot/seditionist proof.

    Where do you draw the line, when Republicans get power again, and it will happen, are you going to abide by where Republicans make that distinction, this is slippery slope into chaos, you don't care because TDS.

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  10. Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    This is so ridiculous that I don't see even this corrupt SCOTUS hearing the case.   He's already begged them and they appropriately ignored him...

    You've made no sense here, why did congress change the loophole? Answer that? 

    Just now, Tiberius said:

    No it wasn't, and he will be punished for what he did. I'm glad 

    You won't answer the question, why was there a change in congress afterward if there was no constitutional way he could do that? Your not answering is very telling.

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  11. I just don't know how my fellow Americans can just sit by and allow our system of governance burn to the ground because Trump. Again, I'm a Desantis guy but this railroading has gone too far. You dems think Trump can't win, well, I think you're in for a rude awakening. What was it, 1% chance they gave Trump to beat Hilary?

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  12. 12 minutes ago, Kemp said:

     

    It seems you don't understand what RICO is.

    I do and it's much better suited for Biden and his crime family than for Trump. There is no mob-like organization here. They are stretching the statute to include things like challenging an election. You all are sheep that are ok with it because its Trump. The devil will come for you eventually too. 

     

    Also, this whole thing is destroying the client-attorney privilege in this country, how is that being completely destroyed and no one is up in arms? TDS in action.

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  13. Just now, Tiberius said:

    He interfered witha government function, that is a crime 

    He did not, he was told by people around him that this is legal, others disagreed, he went with the ones that said it is legal and tried to move forward with that. Here's the problem, he actually believes that it is stolen and still does, how are you going to prove that he didn't believe that?  This is the whole crux of the situation. News for you, this was not the fair and secure election everyone is parroting, the chain of custody for votes was broken down immensely during the 2020 election, no one can say that for sure. You are all being disingenuous and disgustingly un-American. Bring back 1 vote for 1 person, paper ballots. Simple. 

     

    There is also interference in the way Hunter Biden's laptop was subverted, there are a plethora of MSN BS, social media collusion with FBI, and whatever else levers that were used by liberals to sway the election in their favor, it's all interference and those who perpetrated that lies should be the ones facing charges. Instead, we are going after a person who actually believes, still does, and for good reason, that this election was not on the up and up. You cannot say he didn't believe that, and the constitution gives those who a aggrieved the right to challenge elections. Even if you think his legal theories are specious, that is protected speech and he can put those forward and you're not supposed to be convicted per the constitution. How many times do we see politicians lie? Well, its now time to convict them when they do.  

    6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

    He interfered witha government function, that is a crime 

    IT WAS CONSTITUTIONAL you silly person you. That's why the closed that loophole afterward. Explain that.

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  14. Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    just no.  He tried to overturn a legal election and called in the dogs to help.  he's a traitor.

    Oh, you're answer is "just no". Why, because it makes you feel good? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD DEMS TRYING TO SAY HE IS ILLIGITIMATE? How many times have we seen Dems try to push back against election results? This is ludicrous. The media and the democrats have completely destroyed their credibility, form changing what was said on the Georgia phone calls to fit their narrative to trying to expand the idea of stating a riot being that you just have to say some words in front of a crowd, and if they choose to do something afterward, you're held liable. Even when you say go peacefully and patriotically. Can you not see how dangerous this all is, not just for our country, but for you personally! I cannot understand how people can be this dumb about it. It really is TDS, people don't care about the law anymore as long as it's get Trump. There is a poll out there, I am having trouble finding it in the short time I have, that says something along the lines of 70% of Americans think Trump should be found guilty but that the charges themselves are flimsy and may not be constitutional. This shows how TDS has become pervasive. 

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  15. Just now, Tiberius said:

    Wrong, he attempted to corruptly interfere with Joe Biden's election certification. That's criminal 

    What by trying to get VP to send it back to the congress? You mean a process that needed to be changed afterward because it was actually something that he could do? You realize there was actual action done after the fact to close that ability after it was attempted to be used? That's a tacit admission that it was possible. 

     

    Also, no one has answered this one, I've asked many different people, no one can seem to answer. There is a phrase that is going around that people keep saying but don't really seem to understand what it means.  What is a "fake elector"?  

  16. 31 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    desperate to find a silver lining in a shite storm.  delusional like the rest of the MAGAs.  i think deplorables will become a widely accepted term for those enabling this crook to embarrass our great country.  Maybe they'll make a comedy cartoon, The Deplorables

    The only thing that you can say MIGHT be held against Trump that has any sticking power is the document situation. However, when it was determined that Hilary was not going to be prosecuted for deleting and destroying files with bleach bit and Biden, whom cannot have the documents he had as a senator and has no authority to declassify as a vice president, is not being prosecuted, you've set a precedent. This is what we're talking about when we discuss a double standard. If one side of the political aisle gets special treatment, and the other side does not, then there is selective justice which is no justice at all. How do you not understand that? 

     

    The other charges are complete non-sense. They are trying to criminalize political speech, you don't understand how that is going to tear this country apart.  There is a lot to Bidens situation, you don't think now that the republicans will start to attack him the same way Biden and his DOJ has been released to find a way to take Trump down? How are you ok with this kind of stuff? From now on, there's going to be a lot of cheating in elections, even more than there has been, because the ante has been upped, you are now fighting to stay out of prison if you lose. You are all delusional with your TDS. It's hard to understand why you don't see this. 

     

    Also, I'm a DeSantis guy, I would rather him be our next president, but I see this ridiculous banana republic BS, and I cannot believe it's happening in our country. I've read all the indictments and they are starkly against the constitution, that's what the left wants to do. Burn it all down, using what they call Legalfare, attacking their political opponents through the court. Disgusting that people actually support this just to get Trump. You should be ashamed to call yourself American.

    2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

    Serious question - do you understand how bail reform works?

    From which part of the Constitution did our resident constitutional scholar pluck that gem?

    Yeah, let criminals out of jail without having to post bail. 

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  17. 7 hours ago, BillStime said:

     


    Did Trump fly home tonight?

    As if that is a sign there is not a 2 tiered justice system. He had to pay bail, what happened to your parties cashless bail system? You’re not smart.

     

    Also, Mehdi is not a reliable source, he’s a shill that says the dumbest things. Shows me something about who you are. 

    5 hours ago, BillStime said:


    “Doc” is an independent and only cares about the important things.

     

     


    You’re awfully quiet - did Trump fly home in his jet or spend the night in jail?

     

    Two tiered justice system?

     

    giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d7nynk48plu1oaewkvic

     

    Yeah, I actually work, have 3 boys under 5, and am currently completing my masters, so I sleep. Sorry that’s so offensive to you. 

    6 hours ago, BillStime said:


    A bunch of losers?

     

    Yup - that’s why you love them.

     

     


    Did Trump fly home tonight?

     

    Take a look in the mirror, you’re quoting people from MSNBC. No one takes you seriously. You’re pathetic 

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  18. 15 minutes ago, BillStime said:


    Remember when Karen Psyop was crying about a two tiered justice system?

     

    These idiots never think 

    It IS a two tiered justice system. No kicking and screaming from the likes of you or your ilk will change that. Half the country believes that. COPE.

  19. On 8/15/2023 at 7:33 PM, benderbender said:

    Says unlimited streams at home, two mobile. 

     

    The website repeats at least 3 times in the disclaimer about Sunday Ticket that there are absolutely no refunds for any reason.

     

    So no takesies backsies.

     

    This is not true, I actually took it back looking at how many games I would actually need on Sunday Ticket. They refunded me without issue.

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