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The vertical jump means more to me, along with the shuttles, so what if you can run straight and fast, how does that translate into Football. Shuttles tell you how he'll stunt. And Vertical tells you how explosive he is off the line. The forty is so un-natural to a lineman.
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you would have thought that these people would have just gone away, but today the 25th they plan to march in the parramore area here in Orlando, the area is the the most urban of the city. Why are they marching? Who knows, I am sure they think they have a reason.
the sad part is the media attention (which as i think about it, is the reason they are marching) everyone will be there, another interesting part, is the Police are not inspecting for arms (weapons) so many will be carrying (my guess).
My wife, who is part of the Media, will be there covering the activity. So if something does happen my wife might be caught in the middle of it. Which is the true reason I wrote this post. I have to work today, and I get to worry about it all day.
But if something does happen and you are interested watch the evening news (NBC) you might see some of her work. Since i am sure it will get countrywide coverage.
until later
Frogger Out!
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Since Milloy is a "in the box" safety, he doesn't fit the role of a cover 2. Not that I don't think he could, but he is not that much of a ball hawk and is slow in coverage.
I think the money we save cutting him, makes it hard for him to return. One possible FA Dexter Jackson, the safety from the Bucs, FA, has been bouncing around a little, Super bowl MVP, and knows the cover 2, very well. and wouldn't cost us as much as keeping Milloy. I would keep Vincent since there is not much cap saving by letting him go. But I would look to upgrade. And maybe keeping Vincent as a 3d CB. Vincent is great in zone coverage, or he was. I like Bing in the 2nd.-or slay in the 3rd or 4th
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we almost said the same thing about mike Williams, he's still young, give him time.
Forget that! I don't think we can give them time anymore. If we can get Bentley, who imho, is the best young center in the NFL, you must get him. If Healthy, he is a pro bowler every year. Is athletic enough to get to the 2nd level, and nasty as hell.
I don't want to lose QBs and RBs while Duke is trying to reach potential. One thing I learned last year, is JP can be dangerous if given time, he has a pretty deep ball, and in time will hit the short targets. But he needs to see the field. We have short WR (evan, Parrish, Reed) so it's even more important that he has the time.
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they were too busy training, talking to LeCharles Bentley (to bring him here) and saving babies to be there for Marv's calls. It happens
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No, HERE is who needs to be released, assuming he doesn't take a massive paycut (cap savings per Clump):
Williams-$4,907,098
Moulds-$4,522,334
Milloy-$2,500,000
Villarrial-$1,781,250
Posey-$1,750,000
Campbell-$1,000,000
B. Anderson-$893,840
Shelton-$768,840
Neufeld-$672,826
Wire-$600,000
Burns-$538,840
That's a cap savings of $19,935,028! Add that to the $6,474,477M Clumpy says the Bills will be under (based on a cap of $93,500,000), and it's $26,409,505 (give or take a dollar) they could be under the cap!
But wait, there are guys like Fletcher ($4,900,000 cap hit), Schobel ($4,566,666) Adams ($3,875,000), Evans ($2,280,065), and Gandy ($1,955,000) who they can and SHOULD restructure, to free-up another $3M or so.
Think almost $30M would be enough money to get new FA's?
1st, what would you rather have, 5 million in the bank to spend on no one or have 2-3 million and have a player that was our best WR last year. not a huge difference between saving 5 million and saving 2-3 million, when you are talking in the 20 millions.
Regardless keep Moulds, he is a leader, yes he complains, some leaders do that. He is still the face of the bills to me. Marv loves him, and there are no replacements out there, that we can ensure will sign with us
Restructuring Schobel? Did you think his Pro bowl type season wasn't good enough, compared to what we are paying other players on this team he is a steal. I'd sign his brother as a bonus to him. While I would have to agree about Fletcher, I think we can extend his contract.
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I think he'll have other options, and I believe that marv and dick have made it clear that they want Moulds here next year. While he would be a great addition, Seattle won't let him go, assuming they have enough to spend on him after Hutch, and adding a RB via Free agency. But I imagine other teams like the colts will show interest. And if I had to pick between the colt and the Bills right now. I think I'd take the colts. Buffalo's QB situation will make it tough to bring in top flight FAs.
I believe we'll be lucky to get any top Free agents. and if we do, we'll overpay for them. If Lecharles Bentley makes it past the tag, and we are interested in him at all, we better jump on him quickly and throw some major cash at him. 1 great FA with many average would be fine with me. We also have to look at Free agents as rookies and see their potential, i. e. Matt Schobel-who coming out of college was one of the quicker TEs, and who has good hands. I don't believe that Cinci has used him to his full potential, and we can play the relative card. Anything to make us better. But if we improve next year it is going to have to be from the draft.
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correct me if I am wrong, but don't the falcons run a zone blocking scheme? and it's not like he is blocking Bledsoes blind side. Kevin Shaffer was the left tackle for a left handed QB right, and a team that ran the ball, alot. not saying I wouldn't consider him, just not that high on my list.
I'd put Bentley tops on my list
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We do this every year...
Nate doesn't want to be here, don't resign him, He wants money, don't resign him, why can't nate just pay for the love of the game and Buffalo? Add to that, how overpaid players are. et cetera.
If we resign him that is great, franny him, fine. Whatever makes us better. I have no emotional attachment to Nate. I think he can turn it on when he wants to.
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ok
but i don't think trading clements for a pick is better than keeping him at 5 per.
if that de is there i'll be happy, but i do think we need to keep clements and get some more DTs higher in the draft, tho i like your safety ideas.
we only want to lose 1 at most, not 2 starters in our secondary.
keep clements, lose milloy, keep vince but have him play a true FS is better
I guess my question to you is, would you rather have a proven interior lineman, or a Proven CB. While I believe we can win without a shut down corner (not sure if Clements really is a shut down corner, he did however pretty much shut down after week 5) However i feel that we can't win without addressing the OL. Bentley after Hutch is the best lineman availible, he might cost less than 5 million a year, and we could sign a better than average corner in Brian Williams. Or really worse case, move Vincent back to corner. If we are going into a cover 2, he will be less likely to give up big plays.
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You inspired me, well after responding to your post, I figured I'd better come up with one myself, or I'd be like everyone else on the board that will talk crap about others post but never put an ideas out there. It's all fantasy world anyways. I meant no disrespect...yo
while I am at it. Green Bay is very weak in the 2ndary, harris is there only true starter, Carroll has been a yellow flag magnet, I've seen mocks where they draft Jimmy Williams with the fifth pick. In my fantasy world, they would be willing to move down 3 spots and give up a 2nd rounder for a first round talent. they still can get a good player at 8, but not Mario Williams. I feel Williams is that good. and it's more realistic that assuming we'll get a first rounder
and yes Peerless Price, he would be cheap, and increase the odds of Moulds extending. He is still fast and I feel he just needs another shot, if he signs a 1 year deal for 900,000, would it be so bad? He would be more productive than Aikens and Smith. I'd keep Josh reed for a simple reason, I'd get rid of Shaud Williams, and make Josh Reed take back number 25, and make him a 3rd down back. he is a better blocker than Williams, and has great hands/route runner for a RB. He has played the position before-see college days-while I know its not the same, I don't expect him to run the ball, but if he has to he can, he is the ideal third down back. I am not sure why MM didn't think of it first.
Frogger out
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Start:6.47 million under
release: Posey, Mike Williams, Anderson, Wire, Milloy (I was wrong, it was 2.5 million saved if released) shelton and Campbell.
+12,419,778 cap room.
Ext-Moulds and fletcher-possible saving about 5 million
so about 24 million under at this point.
resign all of our middle of the road players and role players. But give jason Peters a 4 year deal
-combined around 6 million total
18 million remaining
Franchise Clements, and look to trade-since Patrick Surtain got a 2nd round pick, I think that is what we'll get for clements, Green bay needs a CB, so trade 1st round picks and get there 2nd on top of that. So we now move up to number 5 and get there 2nd rounder. Green Bay gets a starter at CB and only moves back 3 spots, I might throw in a 4th or later to sweeten the deal, but in this dream, no.
sign-Lecharles Bentley C, Ted washington (if released) Matt Schobel TE, Brian Williams CB, Peerless Price WR, LJ Shelton RT, Ron Dayne RB and Maake Kemoeatu DT
cost about 10-12 million million
Draft
1-Mario Williams DE-Starter at LE
2a-Greg Blue SS-could start as a rookie, if not there is Baker.
2b-Jon Scott-Could start at RT or back up LJ Shelton.
3a-A.J. Nicholson-had off the field issues, 1st round talent
3b-Dee Webb-good cover guy, young talent, not expected to start.
4-Garrett Mills-pass catching FB
5-Tim Jennings-CB insurance
6-Todd Watkins-fast WR and 6'3"
7-Justin Blalock-did you know he declared, could be a guard, and since texas killed us with Williams, I figure 1 out of three.
QB-Holcomb and JP losman
RB-McGahee and Dayne
FB Mills
TE Schobel, Everett, Euhus
LT Jason Peters
LG-Mike Gandy
Center-bentley
RG-Villarrial or Preston
RT- Shelton or Scott
WR-Moulds, Evans, Reed, Price, Watkins and Parrish (move Reed to 3rd down back?)
LE-Williams
DT Adams
DTWashington
RE Schobel
LB Spikes
ILB Fletcher
LB Crowell or Nicholson
CB McGee
CB Williams with Dee Webb, Jennings and King
FS Vincent or Baker
SS Baker or Blue
not great, but not bad
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Re-sign- WR Josh Reed, CB Kevin Thomas, DT Justin Bannan, OL Greg Jerman, LS Mike Schneck, WR Sam Aiken, LB Mario Haggan, LB Josh Stamer, CB Jabari Greer, OT Jason Peters, WR Jonathan Smith, RB Shaud Williams, Nate Clements (Franchise tagged)
Release- OG Bennie Anderson, WR Eric Moulds, TE Mark Campbell, SS Lawyer Milloy, OL Mike Williams, FS Troy Vincent, OLB Jeff Posey
Trades- CB Nate Clements to KC for KC' 1st round pick.
Draft
1a. DT Haloti Ngata H. Ngata
1b. OT Marcus McNeill M.McNeill
2. CB Ashton Youboty A. Youboty
3a. OG Davin Joseph D. Joseph
3b. S Pat Watkins P. Watkins
4. FB Lawrence Vickers L. Vickers
5. LB Gerris Wilkinson G. Wilkinson
6. DT Barry Cofield B. Cofield
7. ILB Freddie Roach F. Roach
Depth Chart ( Bold = FA Signing) (Red = Rookie)
QB- J. Losman, K. Holcomb, T. Woodbury
HB- W.McGahee, R. Dayne , S. Williams, L. Vickers
FB- D. Shelton, L. Vickers
WR- L. Evans, A. Bryant, R. Parrish, J. Reed, S. Aiken, J. Smith
TE- K. Everett, T. Euhus,
LT- J. Peters, M. Gandy, G. Jerman
LG- D. Joseph, J. Geisinger, D. Preston
C- L. Bentley, D. Preston
RG- C. Villarrial, J. Geisinger, D. Preston
RT- M. McNeill, M. Gandy, G. Jerman
LE- R. Brock, C. Kelsay
DT- S. Adams, H.Ngata, T. Anderson, J. Bannan, B. Cofield
RE- A. Schobel, C. Kelsay
LOLB- A. Crowell, G. Wilkinson , J. Stamer, M. Haggan
MLB- L. Fletcher, F. Roach
ROLB- T. Spikes, G. Wilkinson , J. Stamer, M. Haggan
CB- T. Mcgee, A. Youboty, K. Thomas, E. King, J. Greer
FS- P. Watkins, R. Baker, J. Leonhard
SS- T. Williams, C. Wire
K- R. Lindell
P- B. Moorman
HOW WOULD YOU GRADE THIS OFF- SEASON (1 TO 10, 10 BEING THE BEST) ?
I GIVE IT A 10!
Once again, I do not like McNeil, I feel he looks the part, but drafting him would be a mistake better left to Dallas or another team.
We are keeping 2 TE and 6 WR, okay, no. Count Smith gone.
We are really in need for a proven TE, Everett has not seen the field, and Euhus has not proven to be NFL ready. How about Matt Schobel-worse case he's the 2nd TE, but at least we would have a healthy TE.
Wilkinson is a day 1 pick.
Dropping vincent and Lawyer saves us 1.6 million (I think) but we have a lot of dead money, I'd rather keep them,
I can't see starting a Rookie at CB.
We still have no idea of how long it's going to take Spikes to fully recover, so I believe that we need to address the LB spot on the first day.
I also don't like Brock, i feel he is undersized and is weak against the run. What I'd rather do is draft Mario Williams (after my smear campaign) and sign Grady Jackson and a released Washington to create a solid 4 man rotation.
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What I didn't like about it, was why not try to extend Moulds, and London Fletcher saving about the same amount of money. Plus cutting Posey and addressing the olb in free agency or the draft. i think Stamer is a better LB as well.
Otherwise I'd be very happy with that offseason. I Like Mario Williams, combined with Schobel, they could create a Carolina type line.
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parliament house.
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I hope you are kidding, sam Adams has one of the fastest first steps in the NFL, numbers 2 and 3 are not so fast but when he is Healthy he gets off the ball faster than any DT in the NFL. Also our defense is a defense that requires large DT, and DJ's (at least in Chi) is the same. From what I understand Adams and Washington are friends and teddy would help motivate Adams, Speed on the outside and power up the middle. if you stop the inside run, and bounce the ball outside, good tacklers can make plays (which is why Posey needs to go) I agree that on passing downs an inside rusher would be helpfull, hopefully Edwards can return, not sure if anyone remembers his 40 time out of college-I believe it was around 4.7-but that was 40 pounds ago. One possible middle rounder is Wroten, who was arrested for pot, shortly after the bowl game. So like Hawthorne did last year he should fall, and hopefully we can get him in the 4th otr 5th.
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his hair!
Notice david carr has long hair too?
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I've heard and read that Bentley is not happy with NO, however they can't tag howard this year, and the rumor is it will be Bentley who gets the tag. Sorry out there, I like him too, but he is spoken for.
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my only argument about your first 7 picks is this, Turner is the new OC in SF, hence if they go back they'll go with White, because he is more of a power back, who could carry it 30+ times a game, while I know Williams did it in college, he also suffered injuries and played in CUSA-not quite in USC league.
It will not shock me if Tenn picks Cutler or Green bay picks Ngata, remember Jackson is a free agent and they lost Hunt last year, they are weak up the middle.
while they have depth at LB, well somewhat, no one to Hawks abilities though.
one possible trade down that could get a 2nd rounder without moving us much, is if the Cards show interest in getting Cutler, or if they trade their first for Culpepper and the Vikes want to draft Cutler (this scenario is more possible) they just have to leap frog Detroit to ensure it, but the jump if there is competition would be worth a 2nd rounder and another later round pick. all there has to be is a market for Cutler, as I see it, the Ravens may have some interest, the cards, and Detroit which of course would be the best for us. If Williams, and Ngata are off the board then I would test the waters here, if they are both there and Detroit want to ensure the pick of cutler, then hell yeah I'd do it. and maybe get a 3rd or 4th rounder for a little move. which would also save us a little cap room.
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i still like bunckley (DT, FSU) -- i didn't watch the whole game, but the plays i did watch, he got off the ball fast, and ran thru the guy blocking him on almost every play -- just like in the practices. Unfortunately for him, he is only 6'2" 286...he'll never be a 320# guy in the middle. I would take him round 2
I like him too, however i see him in a 3-4, as a DE
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Good, he'll be there at #8 for us
I'm not advocating trading up for him any longer because I think we need to hold onto all our picks, but if he's there at #8 and we pass on him, the Bills will pay the price for ignoring the O-Line again. D'Brickashaw will be an anchor in the NFL, I guarantee that. Regardless of what the "LOOOOOOK!!!! HE MISSED A BLOCK!! FAILURE!!!!!!!" crowd may say.
I watched him all year, this kid is the real deal.
But if you notice, I dont think he'll last to #8, which is why I have Ngata getting the nod with our pick instead.
I understand he has had only a week to practice, However this is the most fundamental defensive game plan, no stunts, no safety blitzes, et cetera. D'Brick's inability to pick up a a DE that will never start in the NFL, is scary. What happens when they over load his side, what happens when they stunt and all of a sudden he is face to face with a 335 pound NT-he will be defeated. remember it only takes 2 plays an entire game to change the outcome of that game. he had two mistakes in about half a game. and they were against weak comp. just say no to D'Brick, and this has not been my newest stance, this has always been my stance. He will fail in the NFL, I too have watched him. If the Jets draft him, Aaron Schobel, should call the jets and thank them.
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ah ha, we don't know what kind of system we are going to run, not to mention he'll have a year or two to get bigger. LeCharles Bentley was about 295 when he entered the NFL he is now around 315. I think interior linemen can gain the weight easier than the tackles. he has talent, and he was the outland winner. it's not like we are drafting him on the first day. and his weight is only 285ish, 10-15 pounds wouldn't be imposible
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I like crowell a lot, the reason behind drafting Carrpenter is, I feel he is a special player, Crowell might have to start, but not at LOLB, but instead at ROLB, still many questions about the health of Spikes, he says he'll be ready, but it could be an injury he never fully recovers from.
You might have a point about a lack of linemen, at the moment we might only have Preston and Eslinger as Back ups, if Trey Teague reduced his desire for money I'd consider bringing him back as a back up OT.
Or bring in another low cost OT.
I think that Baker is our future FS, and I might take Bing or Blue in the 2nd over a CB.
Salary cap update 3/2
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Thank you for the update,
I don't mean to sound stupid, it is just a question, is the 12 million after clements Franchise tag numbers?