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I am on the Davis band wagon as well, I like Ngata, and I love Mario, however I feel we could get the biggest impact from Davis, if he (like williams and Ngata) live up to the hype, he might be a once in a lifetime type player.
He creates match up problems we've never seen before, and if we release Moulds we need a player that can catch the ten yard quick outs.
As far as blocking, he makes a difference because you have to respect his speed, and his size. a team can't send a blitz package exposing Davis for a little 6 yard pass he could take the distance. and if they cover him with a corner, we run the ball. KC has made a living off of that game plan for the last couple of years.
address the lines in Free agency and in the 2nd, 3rd and so on. But get the player that may be a 10 time pro bowler (notice the may be part) in the first.
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You would be amazed how much better our offensive line would be if we drafted Davis, not because i think he is a good blocker, he is an average blocker, but when the LBs first move is back instead of forward because he has to respect the speed, you play better.
in the 3rd, after Davis ha beaten the defense once or twice, and they are forced to add another safety or corner, Willis can run, and if they try to stop the run Davis can dink and dunk them to death.
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I was fighting the urge to say the same thing, but I have to agree that a TE might be the best pick
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Without question I would bring him in, first since he is older he would be cheaper. We just saved 3.5 million on Adams we can invest half of that and get a better player, yes he is better. I have always loved his play, he is also a positive influence to others, unlike the me first Sam Adams. If you watched the raiders last year, Teddy did his job, his LBs sucked. Paired with Ngata, it could be a dangerous interior, I would resign Edwards just in case. and maybe look to Wroten in the middle rounds.
I truly believe that Washington would make Ngata a much better player.
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Actually the answer. if we are still postiong about it, and not on some other rant by page 3 is. The Players and coaches along with the league, are holding off on the release of those players. as it stands, those who have been released can be picked up by their old teams, depending on the CBA agreement. It was their way of rewarding those teams that got under the 94 million dollar cap. An Example: if they decide to extend the CBA, and the cap goes to 104ish, then we can just pick up Adams contract where we put it down without a bidding war. of course there will be hurt feelings.
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posey and Anderson suck, save your money.
thank you for your time
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Jets-release Chad, and trade up for Leinart
saints-Jay Cutler
Tenn-D'Brick-just released Hopkins, kept McNair
Houston-Reggie Bush-they wanted D'Brick.
Packers-Mario Williams-to team with KGB
49ers-Hawk
raiders-Davis-why? the raiders always go with the sexy pick.
Buffalo-Ngata-we would be starting Edwards and Anderson otherwise.
I might even go DT 1st round and in the 2nd go DT if Bunkley is there or Watson slips. I am hoping that the raiders release Washington and he is willing to come back.
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Thank you for the update,
I don't mean to sound stupid, it is just a question, is the 12 million after clements Franchise tag numbers?
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The vertical jump means more to me, along with the shuttles, so what if you can run straight and fast, how does that translate into Football. Shuttles tell you how he'll stunt. And Vertical tells you how explosive he is off the line. The forty is so un-natural to a lineman.
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you would have thought that these people would have just gone away, but today the 25th they plan to march in the parramore area here in Orlando, the area is the the most urban of the city. Why are they marching? Who knows, I am sure they think they have a reason.
the sad part is the media attention (which as i think about it, is the reason they are marching) everyone will be there, another interesting part, is the Police are not inspecting for arms (weapons) so many will be carrying (my guess).
My wife, who is part of the Media, will be there covering the activity. So if something does happen my wife might be caught in the middle of it. Which is the true reason I wrote this post. I have to work today, and I get to worry about it all day.
But if something does happen and you are interested watch the evening news (NBC) you might see some of her work. Since i am sure it will get countrywide coverage.
until later
Frogger Out!
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Since Milloy is a "in the box" safety, he doesn't fit the role of a cover 2. Not that I don't think he could, but he is not that much of a ball hawk and is slow in coverage.
I think the money we save cutting him, makes it hard for him to return. One possible FA Dexter Jackson, the safety from the Bucs, FA, has been bouncing around a little, Super bowl MVP, and knows the cover 2, very well. and wouldn't cost us as much as keeping Milloy. I would keep Vincent since there is not much cap saving by letting him go. But I would look to upgrade. And maybe keeping Vincent as a 3d CB. Vincent is great in zone coverage, or he was. I like Bing in the 2nd.-or slay in the 3rd or 4th
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we almost said the same thing about mike Williams, he's still young, give him time.
Forget that! I don't think we can give them time anymore. If we can get Bentley, who imho, is the best young center in the NFL, you must get him. If Healthy, he is a pro bowler every year. Is athletic enough to get to the 2nd level, and nasty as hell.
I don't want to lose QBs and RBs while Duke is trying to reach potential. One thing I learned last year, is JP can be dangerous if given time, he has a pretty deep ball, and in time will hit the short targets. But he needs to see the field. We have short WR (evan, Parrish, Reed) so it's even more important that he has the time.
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they were too busy training, talking to LeCharles Bentley (to bring him here) and saving babies to be there for Marv's calls. It happens
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No, HERE is who needs to be released, assuming he doesn't take a massive paycut (cap savings per Clump):
Williams-$4,907,098
Moulds-$4,522,334
Milloy-$2,500,000
Villarrial-$1,781,250
Posey-$1,750,000
Campbell-$1,000,000
B. Anderson-$893,840
Shelton-$768,840
Neufeld-$672,826
Wire-$600,000
Burns-$538,840
That's a cap savings of $19,935,028! Add that to the $6,474,477M Clumpy says the Bills will be under (based on a cap of $93,500,000), and it's $26,409,505 (give or take a dollar) they could be under the cap!
But wait, there are guys like Fletcher ($4,900,000 cap hit), Schobel ($4,566,666) Adams ($3,875,000), Evans ($2,280,065), and Gandy ($1,955,000) who they can and SHOULD restructure, to free-up another $3M or so.
Think almost $30M would be enough money to get new FA's?
1st, what would you rather have, 5 million in the bank to spend on no one or have 2-3 million and have a player that was our best WR last year. not a huge difference between saving 5 million and saving 2-3 million, when you are talking in the 20 millions.
Regardless keep Moulds, he is a leader, yes he complains, some leaders do that. He is still the face of the bills to me. Marv loves him, and there are no replacements out there, that we can ensure will sign with us
Restructuring Schobel? Did you think his Pro bowl type season wasn't good enough, compared to what we are paying other players on this team he is a steal. I'd sign his brother as a bonus to him. While I would have to agree about Fletcher, I think we can extend his contract.
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I think he'll have other options, and I believe that marv and dick have made it clear that they want Moulds here next year. While he would be a great addition, Seattle won't let him go, assuming they have enough to spend on him after Hutch, and adding a RB via Free agency. But I imagine other teams like the colts will show interest. And if I had to pick between the colt and the Bills right now. I think I'd take the colts. Buffalo's QB situation will make it tough to bring in top flight FAs.
I believe we'll be lucky to get any top Free agents. and if we do, we'll overpay for them. If Lecharles Bentley makes it past the tag, and we are interested in him at all, we better jump on him quickly and throw some major cash at him. 1 great FA with many average would be fine with me. We also have to look at Free agents as rookies and see their potential, i. e. Matt Schobel-who coming out of college was one of the quicker TEs, and who has good hands. I don't believe that Cinci has used him to his full potential, and we can play the relative card. Anything to make us better. But if we improve next year it is going to have to be from the draft.
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correct me if I am wrong, but don't the falcons run a zone blocking scheme? and it's not like he is blocking Bledsoes blind side. Kevin Shaffer was the left tackle for a left handed QB right, and a team that ran the ball, alot. not saying I wouldn't consider him, just not that high on my list.
I'd put Bentley tops on my list
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We do this every year...
Nate doesn't want to be here, don't resign him, He wants money, don't resign him, why can't nate just pay for the love of the game and Buffalo? Add to that, how overpaid players are. et cetera.
If we resign him that is great, franny him, fine. Whatever makes us better. I have no emotional attachment to Nate. I think he can turn it on when he wants to.
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ok
but i don't think trading clements for a pick is better than keeping him at 5 per.
if that de is there i'll be happy, but i do think we need to keep clements and get some more DTs higher in the draft, tho i like your safety ideas.
we only want to lose 1 at most, not 2 starters in our secondary.
keep clements, lose milloy, keep vince but have him play a true FS is better
I guess my question to you is, would you rather have a proven interior lineman, or a Proven CB. While I believe we can win without a shut down corner (not sure if Clements really is a shut down corner, he did however pretty much shut down after week 5) However i feel that we can't win without addressing the OL. Bentley after Hutch is the best lineman availible, he might cost less than 5 million a year, and we could sign a better than average corner in Brian Williams. Or really worse case, move Vincent back to corner. If we are going into a cover 2, he will be less likely to give up big plays.
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You inspired me, well after responding to your post, I figured I'd better come up with one myself, or I'd be like everyone else on the board that will talk crap about others post but never put an ideas out there. It's all fantasy world anyways. I meant no disrespect...yo
while I am at it. Green Bay is very weak in the 2ndary, harris is there only true starter, Carroll has been a yellow flag magnet, I've seen mocks where they draft Jimmy Williams with the fifth pick. In my fantasy world, they would be willing to move down 3 spots and give up a 2nd rounder for a first round talent. they still can get a good player at 8, but not Mario Williams. I feel Williams is that good. and it's more realistic that assuming we'll get a first rounder
and yes Peerless Price, he would be cheap, and increase the odds of Moulds extending. He is still fast and I feel he just needs another shot, if he signs a 1 year deal for 900,000, would it be so bad? He would be more productive than Aikens and Smith. I'd keep Josh reed for a simple reason, I'd get rid of Shaud Williams, and make Josh Reed take back number 25, and make him a 3rd down back. he is a better blocker than Williams, and has great hands/route runner for a RB. He has played the position before-see college days-while I know its not the same, I don't expect him to run the ball, but if he has to he can, he is the ideal third down back. I am not sure why MM didn't think of it first.
Frogger out
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Start:6.47 million under
release: Posey, Mike Williams, Anderson, Wire, Milloy (I was wrong, it was 2.5 million saved if released) shelton and Campbell.
+12,419,778 cap room.
Ext-Moulds and fletcher-possible saving about 5 million
so about 24 million under at this point.
resign all of our middle of the road players and role players. But give jason Peters a 4 year deal
-combined around 6 million total
18 million remaining
Franchise Clements, and look to trade-since Patrick Surtain got a 2nd round pick, I think that is what we'll get for clements, Green bay needs a CB, so trade 1st round picks and get there 2nd on top of that. So we now move up to number 5 and get there 2nd rounder. Green Bay gets a starter at CB and only moves back 3 spots, I might throw in a 4th or later to sweeten the deal, but in this dream, no.
sign-Lecharles Bentley C, Ted washington (if released) Matt Schobel TE, Brian Williams CB, Peerless Price WR, LJ Shelton RT, Ron Dayne RB and Maake Kemoeatu DT
cost about 10-12 million million
Draft
1-Mario Williams DE-Starter at LE
2a-Greg Blue SS-could start as a rookie, if not there is Baker.
2b-Jon Scott-Could start at RT or back up LJ Shelton.
3a-A.J. Nicholson-had off the field issues, 1st round talent
3b-Dee Webb-good cover guy, young talent, not expected to start.
4-Garrett Mills-pass catching FB
5-Tim Jennings-CB insurance
6-Todd Watkins-fast WR and 6'3"
7-Justin Blalock-did you know he declared, could be a guard, and since texas killed us with Williams, I figure 1 out of three.
QB-Holcomb and JP losman
RB-McGahee and Dayne
FB Mills
TE Schobel, Everett, Euhus
LT Jason Peters
LG-Mike Gandy
Center-bentley
RG-Villarrial or Preston
RT- Shelton or Scott
WR-Moulds, Evans, Reed, Price, Watkins and Parrish (move Reed to 3rd down back?)
LE-Williams
DT Adams
DTWashington
RE Schobel
LB Spikes
ILB Fletcher
LB Crowell or Nicholson
CB McGee
CB Williams with Dee Webb, Jennings and King
FS Vincent or Baker
SS Baker or Blue
not great, but not bad
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Re-sign- WR Josh Reed, CB Kevin Thomas, DT Justin Bannan, OL Greg Jerman, LS Mike Schneck, WR Sam Aiken, LB Mario Haggan, LB Josh Stamer, CB Jabari Greer, OT Jason Peters, WR Jonathan Smith, RB Shaud Williams, Nate Clements (Franchise tagged)
Release- OG Bennie Anderson, WR Eric Moulds, TE Mark Campbell, SS Lawyer Milloy, OL Mike Williams, FS Troy Vincent, OLB Jeff Posey
Trades- CB Nate Clements to KC for KC' 1st round pick.
Draft
1a. DT Haloti Ngata H. Ngata
1b. OT Marcus McNeill M.McNeill
2. CB Ashton Youboty A. Youboty
3a. OG Davin Joseph D. Joseph
3b. S Pat Watkins P. Watkins
4. FB Lawrence Vickers L. Vickers
5. LB Gerris Wilkinson G. Wilkinson
6. DT Barry Cofield B. Cofield
7. ILB Freddie Roach F. Roach
Depth Chart ( Bold = FA Signing) (Red = Rookie)
QB- J. Losman, K. Holcomb, T. Woodbury
HB- W.McGahee, R. Dayne , S. Williams, L. Vickers
FB- D. Shelton, L. Vickers
WR- L. Evans, A. Bryant, R. Parrish, J. Reed, S. Aiken, J. Smith
TE- K. Everett, T. Euhus,
LT- J. Peters, M. Gandy, G. Jerman
LG- D. Joseph, J. Geisinger, D. Preston
C- L. Bentley, D. Preston
RG- C. Villarrial, J. Geisinger, D. Preston
RT- M. McNeill, M. Gandy, G. Jerman
LE- R. Brock, C. Kelsay
DT- S. Adams, H.Ngata, T. Anderson, J. Bannan, B. Cofield
RE- A. Schobel, C. Kelsay
LOLB- A. Crowell, G. Wilkinson , J. Stamer, M. Haggan
MLB- L. Fletcher, F. Roach
ROLB- T. Spikes, G. Wilkinson , J. Stamer, M. Haggan
CB- T. Mcgee, A. Youboty, K. Thomas, E. King, J. Greer
FS- P. Watkins, R. Baker, J. Leonhard
SS- T. Williams, C. Wire
K- R. Lindell
P- B. Moorman
HOW WOULD YOU GRADE THIS OFF- SEASON (1 TO 10, 10 BEING THE BEST) ?
I GIVE IT A 10!
Once again, I do not like McNeil, I feel he looks the part, but drafting him would be a mistake better left to Dallas or another team.
We are keeping 2 TE and 6 WR, okay, no. Count Smith gone.
We are really in need for a proven TE, Everett has not seen the field, and Euhus has not proven to be NFL ready. How about Matt Schobel-worse case he's the 2nd TE, but at least we would have a healthy TE.
Wilkinson is a day 1 pick.
Dropping vincent and Lawyer saves us 1.6 million (I think) but we have a lot of dead money, I'd rather keep them,
I can't see starting a Rookie at CB.
We still have no idea of how long it's going to take Spikes to fully recover, so I believe that we need to address the LB spot on the first day.
I also don't like Brock, i feel he is undersized and is weak against the run. What I'd rather do is draft Mario Williams (after my smear campaign) and sign Grady Jackson and a released Washington to create a solid 4 man rotation.
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What I didn't like about it, was why not try to extend Moulds, and London Fletcher saving about the same amount of money. Plus cutting Posey and addressing the olb in free agency or the draft. i think Stamer is a better LB as well.
Otherwise I'd be very happy with that offseason. I Like Mario Williams, combined with Schobel, they could create a Carolina type line.
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parliament house.
Just how much cap space do we have now???
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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hold off on signing Clements to a long term deal, unless it saves money on the current Cap. There is no guarentee that he'll rebound from last year, and at the moment we are not an attractive date, why would he want to continue with a team that has the 8th pick, unless it's for money. Load up on quality players, draft smart, have a winning team and you'll see that Clements will want to play here. Also with all the dead money, that will be opened in the next year it might be the best move.