Wayne Arnold
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Good to see Shakir involved early.
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3 minutes ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:
He kind of deserves it, he’s just not good lately
His priorities have changed. Less about football, more about being famous and as rich as humanly possible.
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Just now, Steptide said:
Blows my mind that the bills know how much the Pats are gonna run and can't stop it whatsoever
Daquan Jones, Ed Oliver, Milano are out. Does it really blow your mind?
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Strength is not Bernard's strength.
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These announcers are destroying Josh Allen right now. Did he sleep with their wives?
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22 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:
You said “notable receivers” then go in to name guys like Antonio Callaway, Mecole Hardman, Van Jefferson, Elijah Moore, Rondale Moore, David Bell, do I need to keep going? Then name several WR from this years draft who have done nothing. Notable means they have done something of significance at this point. That is my point. Just naming names isn’t naming notable wide receivers
Always love "arguing semantics" guy.
I would take all of those receivers over Gabe Davis, btw.
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24 minutes ago, SoTier said:
Since this is a thread about Davante Adams trade speculation, I assumed that you were pushing for the Bills to trade for Adams.
The sad reality is that teams find affordable high-end WRs in the draft not often via trades or FA signings. Their draft success is dependent upon the WRs available in the draft and where the teams draft. It's further complicated by how the teams rank their priorities in each draft.
I've submitted evidence that Beane is poor at drafting wide receivers - either because he is gun-shy about drafting them or has difficulty evaluating them.
Therefore, the only solution is having to spend resources on proven commodities like Diggs in 2020.
So if Adams is available then Beane has to do what he has to do. Although I'd settle for a WR that isn't considered a #1.
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16 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:
There are SEVERAL names on this list that are suspect at best, and why do you have any names from this past draft?
Because they're wide receivers Beane could have chosen. What's your point?
2 hours ago, SoTier said:So, Beane "doesn't even try to land great wide receivers"???? Really? The fact that the Beane traded a first round pick for Stefon Diggs in 2020 flushes your premise down the toilet, dude.
The reality is that a team can't afford two #1 WRs on 2nd or 3rd contract as well as an elite QB beyond his rookie contract unless the team is going to ignore the OL and the defense. That's exactly why Tyreek Hill is in Miami.
For your sake I'll assume your first paragraph is sarcasm.
We don't need two #1 WRs (although Miami has that). We need a #2 and a #3. We have neither. Davis ain't it. Nor is anyone else on the roster.
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47 minutes ago, SCBills said:
I don't know that he can't evaluate WR talent.. he just hasn't invested enough in it.
Yeah - part of why I say Beane can't evaluate WR talent is because he doesn't even try to land great wide receivers.
In his six drafts as the Bills GM, the highest draft pick Beane has used on a wide receiver is a 4th rounder, which is absurd:
2018
Ray-Ray McCloud (6th)
Austin Proehl (7th)2019
None
2020
Gabe Davis (4th)
Isaiah Hodgins (6th)2021
Marquez Stevenson (6th)
2022
Khalil Shakir (5th)
2023
Justin Shorter (5th)
So I say he can't evaluate WR talent because year in and year out I see wide receivers that would be very valuable to the Bills drafted by other teams and Beane constantly lets them pass by.
Notable wide receivers passed on by Beane in the draft (chosen 20 picks or less after the Bills draft pick - (round - position and player chosen instead)):
2018
DJ Moore (1st - LB Edmunds)
Calvin Ridley (1st - LB Edmunds)
Antonio Callaway (3rd - DT Phillips)
2019
Marquise Brown (1st - DT Oliver)
AJ Brown (2nd - OL Ford)
Mecole Hardman (2nd - OL Ford)
*DK Metcalf (2nd - OL Ford)
Terry McLaurin (3rd - RB Singletary)
Hunter Renfrow (5th - LB Joseph)
2020
Van Jefferson (2nd - DE Epenesa)
Devin Duvernay (3rd - RB Moss)
Darnell Mooney (5th - QB Fromm)
KJ Osborn (5th - QB Fromm)
Donovan Peoples-Jones (5th - QB Fromm)
Quez Watkins (6th - K Bass)
Jauan Jennings (6th - WR Hodgins)
2021
Elijah Moore (1st - DE Rousseau)
Rondale Moore (1st - DE Rousseau)
Josh Palmer (2nd - DE Basham)
Amon-Ra St. Brown (3rd - OL Brown)
2022
Christian Watson (1st - CB Elam)
Wan'Dale Robinson (1st - CB Elam)
David Bell (3rd - LB Bernard)
2023
Jonathan Mingo (1st - TE Kincaid)
Marvin Mims (2nd - OL Torrence)
Tank Dell (2nd - OL Torrence)
Jalin Hyatt (2nd - OL Torrence)
Cedric Tillman (2nd - OL Torrence)
Josh Downs (2nd - OL Torrence)
Michael Wilson (3rd - LB Williams)
Tre Tucker (3rd - LB Williams)
*chosen 26 picks after Ford
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35 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:
I disagree. The Bills are good enough to make the playoffs. Thats it. Legit SB contender? What makes you say that? Nothing about this team makes me believe they are "legit." They don't prepare well for games. Last year they were an abysmal mess in the playoffs. Almost losing to a backup QB and then losing to a team where the entire O-line was backups.
The Bills have to be at the top of the list for the most unbalanced, undisciplined and uninspiring offense in the entire league.
San Fran - Legit
KC - Legit
Miami - Legit
Philly - Legit
Detroit is more legit than Buffalo right now.
If you believe it, that's great, but I just don't see any legitimate reason to believe that the Bills are "legit" SB contenders. Could they get hot at the right time and figure it all out and make a SB? Sure....that doesn't make them legit though.
The season is more than just the last game or two.
Considering they're #3 in DVOA and at least Top 5 in every analytical ranking makes it pretty loud and clear that the Bills are legit Super Bowl contenders in 2023.
No offense but your post is ridiculous.
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Beane needs to make a move for a wide receiver. Period.
He can't evaluate WR talent / doesn't know what a good one looks like so we're going to have to rely on a proven commodity again.
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There are some annoying flaws with this team that Beane is apparently incapable of correcting (wide receiver outside of Diggs) and I want to see more snaps from under center and less shotgun.
But aside from that I'm happy as hell.
We have a legit Super Bowl contender in Western NY and that's all anyone can ever ask for in October-November.
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That being said, the offense will be fine. Players go through slumps, that includes units. I'd rather the slump happen now than in January. Funny how overreactionary people are but that's just how it goes.
Hopefully the players and coaches are ignoring all the negativity.
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Gabe Davis is a number four. Dude can't catch, does nothing special from a route-running standpoint and it's embarrassing that he was voted captain of this team. Pathetic, actually.
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Yeah they don't like each other.
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2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
The most disturbing thing I heard during the game last night was the commentators talk about how Josh talked about how he doesn't make those crazy plays anymore and stuff. Basically talking about taming down his game. There has been so much made about his "turnovers" after the Jets game that now Josh is holding back when it comes to the things that makes Josh special.
Josh doesn't just make a wow OMG insane play once in a while, he makes them many times a game be it with his arm or his legs. But ever since the Jets game where he made a few mistakes, there is this HUGE push to tame Josh and its not just the media, Josh is saying it himself. But the reality is, those "turnovers" have NOT been the issue for us...Josh being super man has NOT been the issue for us as to WHY we haven't made a Super Bowl yet. In fact, they have been the ONLY reason we were even in the conversation for one.
2021 - the first season where SB expectations were realistic and high coming off Josh's first breakout year he was INSANE in the playoffs. Our defense got us bounced when he out dueled Mahomes but the limp defense folded in both 13 seconds and OT.
2022 - the loss to Bengals was a team loss. Being an air it out offense, we have been known to struggle in the bad weather games offensively because we couldn't run the ball. The OL was terrible, Bengals dominated the trenches on both sides of the ball, and everyone had a bad game. We didn't lose because of Josh "trying to be Superman"...this team just got its a** kicked in every facet of the game.
So why are we trying to tame Josh? Many times a game we extend drives or score because Josh did something unbelievable. I am all for getting Josh to take what the defense gives him, look for quick strikes, etc. But at the same time, this narrative that he needs to be tamed some is IMHO wrong. He just isn't looking to make the big plays with his legs as much now or make those tougher throws as much. There have now been many times this year, including games we lost, there were moments it looked like he could have run and made the big play with his legs but pulled up and tried to throw it instead or waited so long to try and throw it that the run opportunity closed and he got just a few yards instead.
Not only is it affecting him making plays with his legs, but the hesitation from Josh trying to hold his instincts back seems to also keep him from seeing other opportunities now he normally would take. Before, when Josh was buying time I feel like everything was an option. Now, when he gets away from pressure it feels like he is locking on to an area where the safest throw should be and doesn't see guys wide open in other areas of the field he would normally fire a ball too in those moments.
Coming into 2023, Mahomes only had 4 less INTs and Burrow only had 3 less INTs over the past 2 seasons. And Mahomes has had more weapons in that time and a much better OL while Burrow has had substantially better weapons...not to mention Josh played half a season with a hurt throwing elbow and plays in worse weather. But he doesn't really have that many more INTs than those guys despite the personnel advantages they have over Josh.
So this need to try and tame Josh needs to go away IMHO, let him ball like his instincts know because we win A LOT more games than we lose because of it. And its that Josh that this team needs, especially with the issues we already have with Dorsey.
Just my 2 cents...
Couldn't disagree more.
Allen is having the best season of his career so far because he's playing within himself and taking what the defense gives him since the Jets debacle.
If there's a problem with the offense, Josh ain't it.
Maybe we need a GM that can evaluate talent and give him more weapons than just Diggs. Davis (overrated) and Knox (overpaid) are uncoordinated bums with rocks for hands. Everyone else is jag at best. Remains to be seen what Kincaid is but early indications aren't great considering what we invested in him.
Then there's Dorsey's inability to see how productive the offense is when Josh is under center as opposed to shotgun/pistol...
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McDermott cannot do simple math.
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Now it's the defense's turn to fall apart.
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I'm sure it was just a coincidence that the touchdown came from under center. Pay no attention to that, Dorsey. Keep the shotguns coming, they're brilliant.
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Love milking the clock down by a touchdown as if we're the 15 point underdogs.
McDermott has always been a glorified gym teacher, nothing more.
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Love the shotgun runs from inside the 5. Keep them comin, Dorsey!
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I'm more intrigued to find out who is Buffalo's next impact player to be lost for the season with a devastating injury.
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I became a Bills fan as a child.
They've been losing and not winning the Super Bowl every year ever since.
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1 hour ago, boyst said:
i hope he does not. we need him 10 more years or more.
Nah. Just win one Super Bowl. After that the Earth can explode for all I care.
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Bills @ Patriots Game thread - 1st half
in The Stadium Wall
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I don't think that's true.