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  1. 27 minutes ago, ALF said:

    A Supreme Court Justice should be bipartisan 60 vote to avoid extremists

    Honestly I don't care what side of the aisle they fall on as long as they are originalists and only interpret the law as written, not trying to add any hidden meanings

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  2. https://www.theepochtimes.com/who-official-urges-world-leaders-to-stop-using-lockdowns-as-primary-method-against-ccp-virus_3534230.html?utm_source=newsnoeNC1&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking

     

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    “Just look at what’s happened to the tourism industry, for example in the Caribbean or in the Pacific, because people aren’t taking their holidays. Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world because their markets have got dented. Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. Seems that we may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition because children are not getting meals at school and their parents, in poor families, are not able to afford it,” Nabarro said.

    “This is a terrible, ghastly global catastrophe, actually,” he said. “And so we really do appeal to all world leaders: Stop using lockdown as your primary control method, develop better systems for doing it, work together and learn from each other, but remember—lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer.

    Nabarro isn’t the only scientist opposing lockdowns. A number of medical or public health scientists and medical practitioners have signed the Great Barrington Declaration, which states that “current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health.”

     

     

  3. 10 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

    so do you think if Trump was deleted from the equation and we inserted Obama or Biden at the heml of managing the Covid-19 crisis, streams, rivers, tributaries and oceans would be overflowing with "a job well done" drool?...naw, not a chance.....political hypocrisy is non-existent of course....

     

    Heck, if they were in office during this Obama would probably have been awarded the Nobel in medicine back in January

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  4. 19 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


    Sounds like you don’t have a clue or you’re terribly lazy. 
     

    But regardless I think those are some pretty good values don’t you. 
     

    And funny how there is no mention of:

     

    Racism

    Homophobia

    Xenophobia

    Misogyny 

     

    Again I’m not accusing you of saying conservatives are any of those things by many many are. 

     

    See, and this is one of the reasons people actually feel justified calling conservatives those names since it is a trait of both fascists and communists. However opposed they are to each other however they are still both forms of socialism, with one simply more nationalist.

  5. 9 minutes ago, Capco said:

     

    There are only two possibilities in Germany; do not imagine that the people will forever go with the middle party, the party of compromises; one day it will turn to those who have most consistently foretold the coming ruin and have sought to dissociate themselves from it. And that party is either the Left: and then God help us! for it will lead us to complete destruction - to Bolshevism, or else it is a party of the Right which at the last, when the people is in utter despair, when it has lost all its spirit and has no longer any faith in anything, is determined for its part ruthlessly to seize the reins of power - that is the beginning of resistance of which I spoke a few minutes ago. Here, too, there can be no compromise - there are only two possibilities: either victory of the Aryan, or annihilation of the Aryan and the victory of the Jew.

     

    https://archive.org/stream/TheSpeechesOfAdolfHitler19211941/hitler-speeches-collection_djvu.txt

     

    He is arguing National SOCIALISM (Fascism) vs Bolshevik Socialism (Communism), both still socialism to the extreme of totalitarian states.

     

    From your link:

    'NATIONAL' AND 'SOCIAL' ARE TWO IDENTICAL CONCEPTIONS. It was only the Jew who 
    succeeded, through falsifying the social idea and turning it into Marxism, not only in divorcing the 
    social idea from the national, but in actually representing them as utterly contradictory. That aim he has 
    in fact achieved. At the founding of this Movement we formed the decision that we would give 
    expression to this idea of ours of the identity of the two conceptions: despite all warnings, on the basis of 
    what we had come to believe, on the basis of the sincerity of our will, we christened it "National 
    Socialist.' We said to ourselves that to be 'national' means above everything to act with a boundless and 
    all-embracing love for the people and, if necessary, even to die for it. And similarly to be 'social' means 
    so to build up the state and the community of the people that every individual acts in the interest of the 
    community of the people and must be to such an extent convinced of the goodness, of the honorable 
    straightforwardness of this community of the people as to be ready to die for it. 
  6. 13 minutes ago, Capco said:

     

    https://www.coursehero.com/file/p7rh5iq/preoccupation-with-community-decline-humiliation-or-victimhood-and-by/


    Another good quote:  "We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right,' a fascist century."

     

    I told you schools have been teaching wrong and you quote curriculum? The main problem is, some things really are as simple as a straight line. If you ant quotes on socialism and fascism, here you go:
    https://libquotes.com/adolf-hitler/quotes/socialism

  7. 20 hours ago, Capco said:

     

    Hahahahahaha what a simpleton.  Here, let me try to answer pictorially for you.  

     

    Political Compass 2020 - or, Why the rest of the world gives the US funny  looks - Ars Technica OpenForum

     

    The vast majority of scholars place Nazism and Fascism on the far-right.  

     

    https://archive.org/details/germansintonazis00frit

    https://archive.org/details/routledgecompani00davi

     

    You probably have no idea why the word socialism was even included in the party name, so I'll tell you.  It was because socialism was wildly popular in Europe during the 1920s and the only way the far-right could compete was to veil their platform as an equal alternative to the standard definition of socialism by incorporating left wing organizational tactics and blending them with right wing views.  

     

    In Mussolini's own words:  "Fascism, sitting on the right, could also have sat on the mountain of the center.... These words in any case do not have a fixed and unchanged meaning: they do have a variable subject to location, time and spirit. We don't give a damn about these empty terminologies and we despise those who are terrorized by these words"

     

    By all means, please find a credible scholarly source that supports the notion that Nazis and Fascists reside on the far left of the political spectrum.  It will be difficult, but have fun trying.  

     

    Are you f***ing serious? You come here and call me a simpleton while bringing out this ridiculous globalist chart from the 70s? Example 2,187 of why some people need to go back to school and slap their teacher/professor!

     

    Look, the only thing someone might claim conservative thought has with fascism is fascism is nationalistic while most conservatives are patriotic. Because of this, some idiots point and say look, they must be on the same side of the spectrum which is total bullschiff!

    But look closer in HONESTY! The further right you get the LESS government you want. So in reality, to the right of conservative would be libertarian (still patriotic with even more individual freedom) and finally total anarchy, no government at all.

    Now, look to the left and you see a growing government involvement the further left you go. Beginning with classic liberalism which was more concerned with personal liberties and then modern liberalism which is less personal responsibilities and as the government controls more and more, the power of the government over virtually everything continues to grow. And as it grows. it thirsts for even more power until it limits or bans opposing views and gives you a totalitarian state that can be either communism or fascism. Communism if it stears toward a more globalist narrative, fascism if it is more nationalistic (NOT to be confused with patriotism!) but still both totalitarian. 

     

    Here is a more accurate and simple single line spectrum:

     

    The true Left-Right political spectrum! : badpolitics

     

    Now look at the modern Democrat Party:
    Abolish the Electoral College

    Add PR and DC as states, packing the Senate

    Packing the courts with activist judges

    Calling the Constitution a "living breathing document" to justify their re-interpretation of it

     

    Those moves if enacted would literally turn our nation into a single party system. See the above description as you move further left. 

     

    And if you're going to keep on with the childish name calling, don't bother because I won't reply again if you do... 

     

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  8. 3 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

    Always vote Conservative party in Canada.

    Hitler was not a liberal, but trump does have similar characteristics...inciting violence, blaming other groups, accepting no responsibility, destroying and discrediting institutions, creating internal militia, racist tendancies, direct control of existing military bypassing military command protocols.

    No dictator is a liberal or conservative, they do what is necessary to survive to obtain their goals. trump was once a Democrat. 

     

    Where the F*** did you get that idea? He was a f***ing fascist which is the extreme TO THE LEFT! He promised free healthcare and a Volkswagen in  every garage for cripe sake! And what the hell do you think NAZI stands for? National Amazing Zoo Institute? 

    No.... it means National Socialist German Workers' Party you IDIOT! Did you get that? SOCIALIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All that crap you list in this post your right, is fascism, but that fascism is all left wing by nature!

     

    I really think sometime people need to go back to school, not to learn because so many are beyond that, but to slap their teacher!

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  9. 2 hours ago, Tiberius said:
    2 hours ago, H2o said:

    Ok so by your logic shouldn't all of the mobs, riots, looters, arsonists, be labeled left wing nut jobs by the MSM then? I mean Maxine Waters, Pressley, AOC, and other Dem Congress members were calling for unrest and violence in the streets. 

    Peaceful protesting is part of America. You guys don't have the facts of your side so you make itr seem like things are worse than they are. 

     

    Excusing right wing terrorism. There is nothing you guys won't excuse. 

     

    really now Tibs? He asked you about Mobs, Riots, Looters, and Arsonists and you call them peaceful? What alternate universe is this in?

  10. 11 minutes ago, SoTier said:

     

    Why is it "bullschiff"?    Covid Donnie has gone off the deep end.  Whatever limited amount of self-control and sense he had in the past has vanished since he tested positive for the coronavirus.   First he leaves the hospital to go joy riding around Bethesda, Maryland so a few hundred of his supporters can stoke his ego with their signs and flags.  Then comes out and belliicosely declares there will be no coronavirus relief package until after he's re-elected followed by his back-tracking the very next day.   Now he spent hours ranting about a non-existent coup and demanding arrests of his political opponents on Twitter.  Those are the actions of a sane leader, a man with the authority to trigger a nuclear holocaust?

     

     

    So because you chose to ignore all the evidence of wrongdoing that is right in front of your face, you are hereby deemed an IDIOT!

     

    Without the old DC Tom here someone has to pick up the mantle.... 

  11. 8 minutes ago, SoTier said:

     

    You're good with the POTUS ordering his political foes, including his current opponent in the presidential election, to be arrested three weeks from that presidential election because he claims they orchestrated a "coup" against him????   Seriously???  And he rants on this for hours on Twitter???   The coronavirus -- or those experimental drugs they shot him full of -- appears to have fried most of the limited number of working brain cells Covid Donnie has.

     

    That's bullschiff and you know it. It's been well documented here over the years, and in the news the last couple months the entire Russia collusion thing, and subsequent investigations were all because of a made up lie to try and help the Clinton campaign. 

     

    So just stop, stop playing ignorant and pretending it never happened. Obama will go down in history as the most corrupt president ever unfortunately, but to people like you, that's okay because #orangemanbad 

  12. WOW!! Reading through some of the crap on this thread is kinda eye opening.

     

    Trump is a dictator and anyone that supports him is a right wing terrorist and wants him to be a dictator! 

    Did I get all that right?   Everyone on the right is in that same box aren't they? ALL RIGHT WING TERRORISTS!

     

    Meanwhile, every single lib on here will agree that they shouldn't be crammed into the same box with ANTIFA, the left wing terrorist group that replaces the previous Democrat terrorist group the KKK.

    Am I still correct so far?

     

    However every single liberal on here will argue that once they gain House, Senate, and POTUS again, they want to pack the courts, add DC and PR as states to pack the Senate, get rid of the Electoral College, and make sure the Republican Party would never win a majority in either chamber ever again, and most certainly never win the POTUS again. Literally making the United States a single party authoritarian nation.

     

    And you claim Trump is a dictator?

     

    ^%$$^&^ING HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  13. 1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

    Republicans controlled all three branches of government in 2016 but could only pass tax cuts for the wealthy. Now they might lose all three and governorships and statehouses all over the land 

     

     

     

     

    Thank you Donald, you have been good to the Democrats 🕺💋

     

    Yeah, in honesty the Republicans did screw that up with Cryin' Bohner setting the stage for Paul Rhino for sure. As for losing more I think it's highly unlikely this year since I think it's the Democrats under Princess Pelosi that seems to be alienating people more.... We shall see...  

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  14. 3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

    But Trump has helped the Democratic p[arty so much. It's almost as if he is a Democrat he has helped us so much 

     

    Happy Friday Westy 

     

    Not sure what you're seeing, clouds I guess... 

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

     

    Just before Trump election in 2016, party affiliation was Republican 27%, Independent 39, and Democrat 30

    For the record, going in to 2018 was Republican 29%, Independent 36, and Democrat 35

    Here we are going in to the 2020 election at Republican 29%, Independent 40, and Democrat 30

     

    So I think a good argument could be made it is in fact the Democrat Party that is bleeding off members while the Republican Party has grown.

     

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