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I have to pose a question here. Fans often use the word "us" and "we" when we talk about our favorite team. I personally have done this myself, but I fight it as much as I can. My issue is that I don't believe that we are part of the team exactly. Unless you are on the coaching staff, administrative staff, (GM and those above him and such) scouting staff, 53-man roster, reserve list, or practice squad, you are not officially part of the team by any means. Because of the seahawks retiring the #12 in favor of the fans being considered the 12th man, season ticket holders can make a case for being a factor for the team. Even before that of course, but the silent snap count (tapping the foot in the shotgun like john elway) has eliminated some of the issues of a loud crowd of cheering fans but false starts can still happen because of the noise blocking out the snap count. Nonetheless, they still arent actually apart of the team. Fans who go to 1 or 2 games a year or spend the season watching the games on tv surely dont have justification for saying "we" or "us." So my question is, why in the heck do so many fans say "us" or "we" in reference to their favorite team, such as " WE are going to beat the patriots," or "WE need to draft some solid defensive players," or "They won't beat US."? I've always been curious as to why this is said.

Ive liked fitz since he threw 3 tds in his nfl debut with the rams. It hasnt been too pretty since, until he joined the bills. I think hes a great fit. As to the 50 on the wonderlic score, you are horribly mistaken. The only player to have a confirmed perfect score was another harvard alumni, wr/p for the bengals Pat McInally, Fitzpatrick himself admitted to leaving atleast one answer blank so the best he could do is 49, but the Wall Street Journal published a report that he scored a 48, but his actual official score is unknown. As of now, it is, by general consensus that the WSJ article was correct in stating that he scored a 48. On the other hand, he did complete the test in a record 9 minutes

No, I am actually perfectly aware of how much talent was in the USFL: Jim Kelly, Steve Young, Bobby Hebert, Hershel Walker, Mike Rozier, Anthony Carter, Reggie White,Gary Anderson (RB), Doug Flutie, Mel Gray, (Both of them actually. The lesser known was a WR for the cards in the 70s and early 80s)Craig James, Vaughn Johnson and Sam Mills of the Dome Patrol,Gary Plummer, Kevin Mack, Nate Newton, our own curse Scott Norwood, Jo Jo Townsell, Doug Williams, Gary Zimmerman, etc... but I still believe that you cant say that the CFL was inferior to the USFL. The people I named were bright spots in an otherwise woefully inadequate talent pool. And again, the Canadian game is different enough from the american game that you cant compare them as simple as apples to apples. Yes the NFL obviously has much more talent but the USFL was filled by nfl washouts, no namers and a few young collage stars that were offered huge contracts to avoid the nfl. When it came down to it, the USFL simply served as a developmental league for the NFL. Most of the former USFL stars that made an impact in the nfl spent their adjustment period playing in a poorly funded, less competitive league that wasnt too far ahead of college in the talent pool. Developmental league.

This much is true. You also have to look at the offensive scheme the guy played in. Unless your throwing the ball 35+ times a game, west coast and ground and pound style offenses are not conducive to high passing yard totals so much as first downs, completion percentage, red zone efficiency, and fewer turnovers. Whereas a no-huddle shotgun offense in a spread formation or the run n' shoot offenses see 550+ attempts per year with about 58-63% completion percentage (higher in todays league) and routinely produces 4000+ yard passers with 25+ touchdowns and a lot of gutsy calls that result in sometimes lower 3rd down efficiency and more turnovers. (depending on the quarterback of course.)The win % is all that really matters i guess, but I happen to have an obsession with statistics that i cant seem to shake. QB rating might deserve a consideration too.

What is that supposed to mean? How could he have anyway? in 15 years, he played in 169 games and made 143 starts. With such little playing time over a decade and a half, (individual teams played 239 games, 236 if you exclude the 3 strike games in 1987)USFL stats become a non factor. Cant expect anyone in those days to break 40k.

I do believe that the CFL is an inferior league. They play 18 games with like 8-10 teams, but I cannot agree that the CFL was even more inferior than the USFL. Thats kind of a ridiculous statement if you ask me. The Canadian game is a different game though. Different rules, different styles, different field, etc.. But the guys only got 3 downs. That has to count for something. And I think that you can find decent talent from the ranks of the CFL. And not all NFL players could go to the CFL and be successful. The USFL is different, they played the american game with vastly inferior talent and a lower budget.

You realize that his last name is Florence not Flowers, right? Anyhow, Its going to rough against the patriots. The Bills wont stop them. It will be about which secondary can play 4 quarters, because it will be a shootout. Endurance is the key.

I dont think I`ll be watching this game unless its televised in washington. I'm a bills fan 2nd, because I've been a niners fan for as long as i can possibly remember, so if I'm streaming online it'll be the niners game. I hate the jets and the pats so I've always hoped for success in Buffalo and I love Fitzpatrick and Jackson. So lets see what happens folks. 2-0 is great, but to end a 15-game losing streak to the pats would be amazing. I think its about time.