Billsnutt

if it works out this way and Coleman and Batten are doing well outside id rather keep them there then have to cut 1 or both to put Moats back on the outside. i think Moats is gonna be a great player wherever he is because he has the talent but even more he has the great work ethic to not stop working till hes the best. now if after a 3 or 4 games Coleman or Batten dont show the same strides Moats did last season you put Moats back outside and let him kick kelsay off the feild

yupp "ideal" playing weight is 9 times out of 10 blown way out of proportion

thanks for the welcome.. with all of this stuff i use myself as the comparison against the weights of lineman. i know what my scale says(340) and i know the shape I'm in and how much muscle mass i have and all I'm saying is these guys are professional football players who obviously have more muscle mass(witch weighs more) and they are all taller then me so i have to logically believe that someone like Dareus is more then 3#s heavier then me when he is soo much bigger and stronger then me, and i guy like Jasper who makes me look like an ant is well over 400#s. but while i say all this i also think alot of people make too big of a deal about weight and being "too big" or "eating himself out of the league" these lineman are bigger then people think and play at high levels(some pro bowl levels) in the NFL there alot more guys on the lines that are close to or over 400#s and nobody knows because they are listed smaller and play so well so nobody questions it. players weights are only questioned when they aren't in shape and start to slow down or play bad, then they are fat and eating them selfs out of jobs

I couldnt agree more with you here

your allowed to believe what you want. i know damn well that if im 340 at barely 6 foot tall that someone at 6'3 with more muscle mass and a bigger gut than me is gonna weight more then 3lbs more and a man thats 6'5 and has the body of jasper is in the 400's but youll never have your proof to put money on it because you will never see a real weight from any of them

well i hate to burst any bubbles but Dareus is easily more then 343 just like Jasper is more then likely still tipping the scales at 450... does anyone honestly believe that big Ted Washington was only the 350 he was listed at? the man was 6'5 and had a keg attached to his torso. now i assume we all know by now that muscle weighs more then fat so your gonna tell me a guy like say Dareus who is 6'3 and has a good size gut himself is listed at anywhere from 319 to 343. now being a pro football player and judging by the size of his arms and upper body he obviously has alot of muscle. he is probably closer to 350-360 then he is to being 310-320... i say this all with confidence as i am a 28 year old man who is about 6' and i am 340 myself and not sloppy i was a wrestler and power lifter so i still have a very solid frame with a keg of my own for a stomach haha that all said, thats why i know without a doubt listed weight for lineman is greatly fabricated

Why is it anyone makes a big deal about listed weight for these guys?? we all know by now that the listed weight is much lower then the actual weight... "listed" weights for lineman are all make believe

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