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This kid, to me, is one of the most intriguing players in the draft. He's got the size, he's faster than Calvin Johnson, and will routinely blow off the top of the coverage. I'm not saying he's going to be the best player ever, especially not right out of the draft. He's very raw and comes from a system that never throws the ball. However, he has really high potential. He could be trained up to be a really good WR. Whether he does or not is probably up to him, it's on his determination and drive to be the best, because he does have all the tangibles. But even if he's never thrown the ball, or only has 30 catches a season for us, that still opens up a lot of space in the middle of the field for everyone else. I think he'd be worth taking a risk on, simply because he would make the other receivers, tight ends, and even the running backs better by giving them more space. And just think, even Fitz couldn't overthrow this guy like he did so often last season.
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Kyle Williams had surgery to remove a bone spur (that he played through his entire college career) that was cutting into his achillies tendon. It's not like he ruptured his achillies or had similar problems like Merriman has.
I agree completely with this. I don't understand why everyone has been so down on Kyle Williams the past few months. Everyone keeps saying he took the money and ran, and now he won't do anything now that he got paid. That's just stupid. He had a bone spur that was making it difficult to walk, let alone play, yet he was out there doing the best he could through the pain for almost half a year before the coaches put him on IR. That tells me he's INCREDIBLY motivated, not that he's not motivated at all. I guarantee, he will be back to his normal form next year and everyone that's suddenly been so down on him this year will be acting like they never thought he was anything less than great.
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Why all the love for Aaron Williams? The guy appears to has all the physical tools but he was oft burned for big plays. Maybe he gets better in time but I grade as a C- for now especially being a top pick in the 2nd round.
You make it sound like rookie CBs never get burned. I guarantee you that there has never been a rookie CB that hasn't looked absolutely silly at times. It comes with more playing time in the NFL.
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I'm really not sure why so many people keep harping about getting a "stud" WR. There are so many good WRs after the first round, it's a waste to draft one then. Yes, you can get elite WRs like Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, etc. in the first round, but how much worse off are you with Greg Jennings (2nd), Hines Ward (3rd), (CAR) Steve Smith (3rd), Brandon Marshall (4th), Donald Driver (7th), Marques Colston (7th), etc.?
I say go big men early and often on both lines. Can you imagine a D-line consisting of Marcell Darius, (a healthy) Kyle Williams, and then another 1st rounder? It would hardly matter who your LBs were because the OL would be so occupied with the three down linemen that not one of them would be able to get past the first level into the LBs.
As mentioned before, it's really tough to guess who a good pass rusher would be, especially out of the 3-4. Draft them often (and not necessarily in the 1st round), and one of them will surely come out of it. Once you have that dominant front 7, the secondary will hardly matter. However, first we need someone who can actually develop players. We've been drafting defensive players like crazy the past few years, but none of them seem to develop too much. We REALLY need a good defensive coach who can provide that.
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Blackmon may be off the table, but Alshon Jeffrey should still be there. Jeffrey and johnson would be a great tandem.
I don't know about that. I haven't watched much of Jeffrey, but was interested by what you all have been saying about him, so I just looked at some of his highlights and was less than thrilled with him. He could be a playmaker, but he seemed to catch the ball in his body too much, instead of with his hands, doesn't secure the ball once he catches it, and didn't seem to play incredibly fast. When he did have to extend to catch the ball, it looked like (from the highlights) he had good hands, but when he comes to the NFL, I think he's going to have some bad habits to break.
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It really looks to me that the Saints put the Madden difficulty setting to "Rookie" last night...
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See, my problem with all the Tebow hype after the Chargers game is that he was only 4-10 for 79 yards (granted with a TD) when he comes in off the bench after the Chargers game planned for Orton. Now that teams know that it's going to be Tebow, they will game plan and play much differently then if Orton were in. I'm not saying he will be great or horrible once they start game planning against him, I'm saying wait and see.
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I find it interesting that Tampa doesn't get the Saints at Bucs game. Did they not sell out a divisional game?
I guess I shouldn't expect it, being in Steelers country, but I'm still disappointed the Bills game isn't on CBS this week. Guess it's back to the sports bar here at Penn State this week...
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You guys are talking like he should have been in the film room studying for the Broncos all week so he'd know all their blitzes inside and out. You forget, this is pre-season. No one cares or gameplans, so the fact that he wasn't fully prepared for the blitz this past week doesn't bother me too much. If it continues in the regular season, that's when you need to start worrying
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You won't want to hear this but the rule of thumb is there is no rule of thumb. All depends on what your philosophy is.
Ideally you would want to be able to bring pressure from both sides. Being able to pressure both edges forces the offense to stay honest in their blocking schemes and that allows you much more flexibility from a schematics standpoint. The less resources you have to commit to a particular task (in this case rushing the passer) the more you can dedicate to other areas of the field.
I haven't seen enough of Dareus to know if he is that kind of DE. If he is, great, line him and Merriman up on opposite sides and let the O pick their poison. If he isn't then the next best thing would be for him and Merriman to line up next to each other and let either one exploit the mismatch at the POA that they create.
If anyone has been to most of the practices I'd be interested in knowing how they are currently being lined up most of the time and in what personnel packages.
As to what the Bills did with Smith/Bennett they were used on opposite ends the vast majority of their time together.
GO BILLS!!!
I haven't been to practices, but on BB.com, the highlights show Dareus as the LE, while Merriman was the ROLB, so opposite sides.
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I'm at Penn State and haven't found many Bills fans around. Anyone know any good places to go for games in State College, PA?
I've been having to go to a Steelers bar that was near my old house, but the people are cool there and the owner started getting into the habit a reserving a TV for the Bills for me
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If anyone tries to sign him to their roster, we have the option of doing the same thing. If he shows the skills to make the team immediately, by all means give him a spot. If not, then send him to the practice squad. If someone does try to scoop him up, and we think he's worth keeping, then we can just sign him instead.
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Luke Stocker, TE
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Can't Andrew Luck decide he wants to be a multi-millionaire now & join any NFL team he wants?? Is this illegal like the draft is now?? The players crossed the lIne, why can't the college boys ?
If I was a top prospect & decided that playing for the Panthers didn't fit my needs, why couldn't I find the team that was best for my situation all the while getting rich doing so ? I'm one to wonder why the established systems are in place & how to challenge them, live strong.
Because that's idiotic, and football would become baseball, with the Yankees of the NFL buying championships. The major drawing point in football is parity. Any team can be bad one year and good the next. The draft was put in place to ensure that, so the worst teams get a chance at the best players, keeping the sport interesting.
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I think what most people are forgetting is that a lot of the busts at QB out there happened because a QB that was not ready for the NFL was thrown into a starting role regardless, developed bad habits from being under pressure behind a poor OL, and was never able to recover. If we do draft a QB at #3 (which I am wholeheartedly against), the absolute worst thing to do would be to throw him to the wolves immediately. Fitz was able to play well this past year because he has snap-decision making and a gunslinger mentality, and knows how to play in the NFL. If you draft and immediately start Gabbert or Newton, who looks at one person, and if that read isn't open, they tuck and run it, then you're just asking for them to bust. All these problems are magnified if the lockout continues and they have no practice time in the NFL before they start playing meaningful games, they would be absolutely lost, possibly irredeemably so.
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J.J. Watt (6'5"-290)is a prime candidate to play the five-technique position in the 3-4 base defense. Relentless rushing the passer yet active against the run, he flashes quickness off the snap and willingness to pop and knock back blockers. He has the strength to shed blocks and bull through double teams. A high-effort tackler with long arms combined with excellent character and work ethic, he's a perfect fit for a team that loves "Lunch-pail" blue-collar types. After a STRONG combine, he has secured himself in the middle of the first round, however not worthy of a number 3 pick, there is a way to draft him in the first round and secure more picks in this years draft. Here is a scenario:
Bills/Vikings trade:
Vikings receive #3(Cam Newton?)
Bills receive #12-#43-#105 and a 2nd/3rd in 2012
#12 - J.J Watt, DE34, Wisconsin (start from day 1, play for 10 years)
#34 - Brooks Reed, OLB34, Arizona (powerful bull rush and a quality speed rush, nice one-two punch in rounds 1 and 2!)
#43 - Marcus Cannon, ROT, TCU (ready to step-in to the weakest position on the team)
#68 - Ben Ijalana, OG, Villanova (Wood slides to Center, nice interior line-up)
#99 - Mark Herzlich, SILB, Boston College (Cancer survivor falls to this pick. See character/work ethic for Watt 2.0)
#105 - Orlando Franklin, LOT, Miami(FL) (Competition for undersized Bell)
#121 - DeJon Gomes, SS, Nebraska (bye bye Whitner, hello Gomes)
#130 - Julius Thomas, TE, Portland St. (nice hands, big target, needs work on blocking)
#164 - Chris Rucker, CB, Michigan St. (bpa, need)
#195 - Anthony Gray, DT34, Southern Miss (bpa, need depth)
Does not address the QB situation (franchise/depth), however other than Ponder or Mallet, I don't see a QB worthy of a pick, IMO.
Thoughts.......
Never EVER going to happen. No way the Vikes give up that many picks in this years draft, nor will the Bills ever trade down.
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I would have to say not a chance in hell does SF give up that much to move up 4 spots. Especially for the quality of QBs available. I know there is a numerical points system associated with draft picks, and I would love to see how lopsided that trade would be. If they would be stupid enough to do it, you take that trade any day of the week.
http://www.mynfldraft.com/points.php
Here's a point system I found, not sure if it's accurate or not.
According to this, our #3 is worth 2200 points
SFs #7 is 1500, #76 is 210, and let's say we get next year's #16 (putting it right in the middle of the first round) it's 1000...that's a value of 2710.
That's a 510 point difference in the trade...which is the value of a 39th overall selection. Sounds like wishful thinking to me.
Your forgetting, though, that a pick in the future is worth less than one in the present. Who knows what it will be, it could be #32, it could be #1. Based on the last couple years, a second round pick this year is worth a first next year, a third this year is worth a second next year, etc.
That means that #3 for #7, #76, and a first round next year is actually pretty accurate.
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AFC-1.Baltimore
2.NY Jets
3.Oakland
4.Houston
5.Jacksonville
6.Buffalo
Buffalo upsets Oakland in WC round....Texans get past Jags
Divisional round Buffalo's Fitzpatrick again torches Ravens D and they don't get screwed in OT again...The Jets make their 3rd straight AFC title game over Houston.
AFC Championship The Jets stake their claim as the Eagles of the 2010's by succombing to the surprising upstart Buffalo Bills, who look to become the 2nd straight 6 seed to win the SB.
NFC-1.St. Louis
2.Dallas
3.Green Bay
4.Tampa Bay
5.New Orleans
6.Detroit
Detroit shocks the Pack behind the healed shoulder of Stafford and the dominance of Suh...The Saints again lay a 1st round egg vs TB.
Divisionals...The Stafford vs Bradford battle is won by the Lions....Josh Freeman leads the Bucs over the Boys.
NFC Championship-Detroit beats TB in OT to get to their first ever SB.
And...drum roll please...the BUFFALO BILLS celebrate the city's first SB title in grand fashion by humiliating the Lions 41-13 and the Amish Rifle is going to Disney World.
And yes I am a homer. I also thought this would be much more fun than the usual NE/Ind/SD/Bal/Pit crap that I'm sure will flood the gates here.
GO BILLS!!!!
I love it! I also think it will never happen, but that would be a MUCH more interesting playoffs then the Cheatriots choking in the playoffs, the Steelers winning any AFC playoff game that's not against the Patriots, and everyone going on about the same QBs year after year.
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Personally, my dream picks for the Panthers and Broncos are they both take a kicker, thus we have our pick of all the good players. If only...
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Hawk was cut for a reason. He was never as good as he was hyped up to be before his draft. I don't see teams, especially the Pats, falling over themselves to sign him quickly
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With only 2 top tier QB's, Mallet and Gabbert you have to wonder how who is desperate enough to get them. With Locker's stock falling, Newton rising and falling like the tide, and Ponder and Kaepernick dark horses you have to add up how many teams want a QB and how bad they do. Kaepernick could jump to the first but is likely a second. Newton will have to go in the first, if Tebow did Newton will. Ponder could go late 2nd or maybe 3rd. I truly expect 5 of those 6 QB's being drafted before round 3.
I completely disagree with your assessment of all the QBs. Most people have Newton and Gabbert as the 2 top tier QBs, and Locker's stock has been RISING since the combine, when he was lit up Indianapolis. Also, you're forgetting that as the draft gets closer and closer, QBs will be rated higher and higher. I'd honestly be surprised if at least 3 QBs didn't go in the top 10.
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If you read how they decide how they determined the most miserable teams, it makes sense. It's not going for sheer futility, it's how many times you get into the post-season and/or the championship game, then choke. It's the teams "where fans have been exposed to teams good enough to get their hopes up, only to let them down in the end."
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2nd Rounders
Drew Brees, Purdue
Quincy Carter, Georgia
Marques Tuiasosopo, Washington
Kellen Clemens, Oregon
Travaris Jackson, Alabama St.
Kevin Kolb, Houston
John Beck, BYU
Drew Stanton, Michigan
Brian Brohm, Louisville
Chad Henne, Michigan
Pat White, West Virginia
Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame
3rd Rounders:
Giovanni Carmazzi, Hofstra
Chris Redman, Louisville
Josh McCown, Sam Houston St.
Dave Ragone, Louisville
Chris Simms, Texas
Matt Schaub, Virginia
Charlie Frye, Akron
Andrew Walter, Arizona St.
David Greene, Georgia
Charlie Whitehurst, Clemson
Brodie Croyle, Alabama
Trent Edwards, Stanford
Kevin O’Connell, San Diego St.
Colt McCoy, Texas
Armanti Edwards, Appalachian State
Since 2000, there have only been 2 clear cut starters that happen to be Pro Bowl players, and one potentially decent starter in Kolb. The jury is still out on McCoy and Clausen and whether or not they can become franchise guys. And if Brees were drafted in this years draft at his draft position in 2000, he would have been a 1st round pick because of expansion. The odds of finding your "franchise" QB in these 2 rounds is a paltry 8.3%.
In that same time period the QBs drafted in the 1st round are as such:
Chad Pennington
Mike Vick
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Patrick Ramsey
Carson Palmer
Byron Leftwich
Kyle Boller
Rex Grossman
Eli Manning
Philip Rivers
Ben Roethlisberger
J.P. Losman
Alex Smith
Aaron Rodgers
Jason Campbell
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Jay Cutler
JaMarcus Russell
Brady Quinn
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Of the 28 QBs selected in the 1st round since 2000, 14 of them are franchise guys, with the jury still being out on Tebow. Obviously, most starters and "franchise" QBs are found in the 1st round, but as a trend, it appears that selecting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round is a waste of a draft pick.
Which leads me to everyone talking about Fitzpatrick being a QB that could get better given how much he improved last year, but the stats don't lie:
2008-09: 21 starts. 20 TDs, 19 INTs, 58.1% completion rate, 5.8 YPC.
2010: 13 starts. 23 TDs, 15 INTs, 57.8 completion rate, 6.8 YPC
Other than a slight bump in TDs, due in large part to the Bills offense only producing six(6) f'cking RUSHING TDs, and a YPC stat that ebbs and flows (for comparisons sake Colt McCoy had a 7.1 YPC last year...do you think he will maintain that over his career?), why are we heralding Fitz, who still has a career 12-23 record, as a guy that can lead this franchise for years to come?
Don't get me wrong...I think Fitz is a good place holder while we groom the potential "franchise" guy that the Bills select with the 3rd overall pick in this year's draft, but if people think he is going to be anything beyond that, they need to get their heads checked.
Okay, my problem with this list is that if you look at that list of first round picks, how many of them are both successful franchise QBs AND scrambling QBs? You're left with one, Michael Vick. And how many super bowls has he won? None. I don't even think he's won a playoff game, though I could be wrong. You don't waste a high first round pick on a scrambling QB. You don't draft a QB just to draft a QB. You could have every team draft a QB in the first round, because then every single one would have a 50-50 chance at a franchise QB, right?
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Is it just me, or did he only seem to use speed going around the tackle to get his sacks in his highlight reel? I don't really want someone who will just try to run around the tackle all the time like Maybin and end up not doing anything ever.
Hes definitely a specimen. Anyone that is away from the game a year scares me a bit though. I prefer newton or fairley. Hoping either of them fall to us.
Also, does anyone here know why he missed last year?
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See, I'm not worried as much about whether he was the QB he showed us during the 5-2 start. He obviously was. What I'm worried about is what he's going to do in the future. Before the Washington game, he was throwing it fearlessly, unafraid of the guys bearing down on him. After that game, he was throwing it away, then ducking and covering to protect his cracked ribs from the defender bearing down on him, hoping he hadn't thrown an interception. If he becomes the next Trent Edwards, who actually did't play too poorly before his concussion in AZ, but then sucked afterwards, then we are in trouble. So I'm waiting to see which QB comes out of the gate next season: the fearless gunslinger or the scared noodle-arm.