hondo in seattle
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Short memories. I recall people calling for Ted's head, then he turned the no huddle k gun to Jim Kelly. After that Ted got smarter.
Best play caller was Kelly, followed by Jack Kemp. No OC we ever had consistently managed a game as well.
Kemp? Didn't we win mostly with defense in those days? Mike Stratton's hit-heard-'round-the-world and all that?
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Ted Marchibroda. He had a lot to work with but got an awful lot out of it.
Yeah, but weren't the plays in 1975 OJ left and OJ right? Not too much strategy involved.
It was a little more complicated than that! Sometimes on 3rd and long it was OJ draw!
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Bill Walsh was wrong about Trent Edwards. Ron Jaworski has been wrong about lots of QBs. So has Mel Kiper.
Even the people who know pro football far better than us are often wrong about the future success of young QBs.
I think the problem is no college QB is NFL ready. They all need to learn and improve. And it's hard to say who will improve and who won't. Or how fast they'll improve. Jim Plunkett didn't become a good NFL QB until his 30s.
And, yes, some QBs do improve their accuracy, their decision making, their poise, etc. EJ has no flaw that some other QB didn't once also possess - and then fix.
I'm not predicting success for EJ. I'm not predicting failure.
But I do hope for success, and hope that success comes faster than Plunkett's.
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Joe Ferguson.
In 1975, the Bills scored 30 points per game. They led the league that year in both yards and points scored. In fact, I believe it was the most points scored by any NFL team in the 1970s.
OJ and Braxton racked up nearly 3000 yards rushing in a 14 game season. Fergy was efficient throwing the ball - tying Fran Tarkenton for the NFL lead with 25 TD tosses.
The Bills were an unstoppable offensive powerhouse that year. Too bad the defensive secondary was as porous as colander.
I believe Fergy called the plays that year but couldn't guarantee it. Maybe a Bills old-timer or NFL historian can correct me. If it wasn't Fergy then probably Head Coach Lou Saban was calling plays or OL Coach Jim Ringo.
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1st down runs behind Eric Pears.
It's called "Peartar Flatulitis."
This might be contagious. I suffer from the same malady.
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It's cool to receive some good press.
But this is hilarious. With GM changes, coaching changes, free agency, trades, career-ending injuries, and drafts, it's impossible to look five years out with any accuracy.
But let's hope five years from now this author looks prophetic - at least regarding the Bills.
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It's a sad commentary on the state of a franchise when the fan base views being 2-1 as a substantial accomplishment.
Since their inception, I think the Bills have won something like 46% of their games. So, personally, while acknowledging it's a long season, I'm happy to celebrate a 67% winning percentage.
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I think Rivers is just really good, and EJ isn't yet. It's not rocket surgery.
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However we may want to dissect different plays, I think FireChan is on target (though I'm not sure how you perform surgery on rockets). EJ isn't good yet. I hope he becomes good. I think he may. But he wasn't good in the winds of the Ralph against SD.
Kelly was challenged in those same winds and tended to put up good numbers anyway. Not always, but often. EJ needs to learn.
Eventually, some posters here on TBD will say they were right about EJ and some will have to admit they were wrong. I think it's all random luck. None of us know with any certainty how much EJ will improve over time. I'm not sure the coaches who work with him every day can answer that question yet. I think we all need to watch, wait and see.
The only reasonable argument is how long we wait before handing the offense over to Orton or someone else.
But anyone arguing that EJ is going to be great is suffering from Wishful Thinking. Anyone arguing that EJ will never be great is suffering from Eternal Pessimism. As fans, we always have opinions but certainly no one yet knows.
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1. I hate when people call them Buffalo Wings. I've heard everything from, "do Buffalps really have wings" to "they're called Buffalo wings becaise of the sauce that's BBQ and hot saice mixed". They're just wings people. Or chicken wings. How freaking hard is that???
Of course Buffalo don't have wings, but I think they are called Buffalo wings because that's where this style wing was first made...at the Anchor Bar in Buffalo.
The first time I heard of "Buffalo Wings" is when I went away to college. My college friends were giving me crap about Buffalo, saying the city had nothing to offer. Then one kid said there was ONE thing good from Buffalo: Buffalo Wings. At that time (1977), no one knew what he was talking about - including me.
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We don't need stats to see that Hackett is bringing EJ along slowly. It's obvious watching the games.
The questions is: is it the right strategy?
When you don't throw down the field, it allows the defense to load the box. Obviously, it becomes harder to run the ball. But because opponents don't worry so much about defending the whole field, it becomes harder to pass the ball, too.
I wonder if EJ would be more successful if he threw down field more often. Clearly there are advantages to attacking the entire field of play.
Then again, we're 2-1 and tied with the Pats for 1st place in the AFCE. Maybe Marrone's and Hackett's conservatism has some merit.
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Bills rebound. Bills 27, Texans 10.
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Would we feel differently if the season unfolded differently?
How would we feel if we lost against SD in the first game in the season? But we won the next two games - against the Fins and Bears? Would we all be more optimistic right now?
I know it's the most recent game, but is the SD loss really more representative and predictive than the two wins?
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So, wait. No one is blaming CJ today? Dude had 25 yards. He is a starting RB and only got 25 yards. Total he had 62 yards from scrimmage? If he was not CJ Spiller he might be a backup on any other team.
He isn't even in the top 25 backs for the season.
If he is supposed to be this great back, why isn't he running like one?
Because:
(1) Hackett has no idea how to draw up plays for a scatback like CJ. In his last year with Chan, CJ ran for over 1,000 yards at 6.0 yards per carry. He'll never equal those numbers with Hackett as OC. This year's he's only averaging 4.0 ypc - a drop of 2.0 yards per carry.
(2) Our O Line doesn't create holes. They're not bad in pass protection but they suck in run blocking.
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I watched the corners too. The pick plays killed us.
And Gilmore was a liabilty . That was just horrible Like he unsure where to go especially on the run.
aarghh !
I am not writing them all off. This one might be on Schwartz actually
It would have been nice if the refs through a flag for this at least once.
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Three weeks into the season and we're 2-1 and in 1st place. I'm willing to bet most people here would've been happy with that start if polled at the beginning of the season. I like our odds next week and I like our schedule. The sky's not falling, yet.
Let's get a grip.
You're right. But...
While I'm not solidly in the sky-is-falling camp, what bugs about yesterday's loss is how bad we looked. Our Pass D had problems. Our entire O had problems. And we were undisciplined, committing 100+ yards of infractions which kept SD drives alive and ruined the rhythm of our offense. In sum, we didn't look like a 2-1 team.
Hopefully yesterday isn't a harbinger of what's to come.
But right now we're tied with the Pats for first place. Our record is the same as the SB Champions. The skies ought to be sunny today.
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Unsurprisingly, even though the voices in the threads seem to dominate as anti EJ, the poll results show that most fans want to go with EJ. He's what, 13 games into his career? He's posted a 90 QB rating so far, has minimized mistakes, helped us win two games, and couldn't put it together to win us the third.
As I posted in another thread, almost all of the other superbowl winning QBs in the modern era had to develop over their first few seasons, but it seems people forget that in this era where Russell Wilson, and to a lesser extent, Luck/Kaepernick/RGIII, have had early success. It's a win now league, if you aren't an immediate success, you're a bust. If you don't coach to immediate success, you're a failure.
Rivers who was clearly the better QB yesterday didn't become a good QB until his 5th year in the NFL.
http://www.nfl.com/player/philiprivers/2506121/careerstats
I don't think Orton is a bad QB. But he needs more time to learn the offense and EJ needs more of a chance. With a 90.8 QB rating, he's hardly been putrid. We're 2-1. EJ played a contributing role in those 2 wins and he also played a role in the loss. He was neither the primary reason we won 2 games nor the primary reason we lost to SD.
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Yesterday should not come as a shock at all. The Bills lost to a better team with a MUCH better QB. I don't think we knew anything more about EJ after the first two games as we did yesterday. I still have no idea what to make of EJ. I know he's not terrible and I know he's not the answer yet. The major concern I have right now is that without turnovers, I don't think EJ is good enough to beat a really good D and he's also not good enough to keep up with a really good offense like San Diego. If that continues to be the case, the Bills will most likely never hit that 10 win playoff mark.
True enough. But as a reminder, Rivers didn't even start until his third year in the NFL. He didn't become a good starter until his 5th year.
EJ's rating is 90.8. Rivers' rating his 1st year starting (3rd year in the league) was 92. Rivers' rating his 2nd year starting was 82. Then things finally clicked. His rating has been over 100 five of the next 7 years.
Personally, I'm going to be patient in my judgement of EJ.
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It's a bad loss because we looked so bad doing it. Our Pass D looked weak. Our entire offense looked weak. And we were undisciplined - being flagged for over 100 yards in infractions yet again.
If it was a hard-fought loss in OT, we could still feel good being 2-1. But today we didn't look like a 2-1 team, nor did we look like a team that would compete in the AFCE.
Let's hope we look like a different team next week.
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Schwartz needs to start thinking about playing more zone and less man
And blitz more so our DBs don't have to be locked on for so long.
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EJ was bad but he wasn't god awful horrible. Statistically he completed 59% of his passes for 6.1 yards per attempt.
This was a team loss. I don't think Schwartz had a great game plan Our secondary certainly could have played better. I don't think Hackett knows how to draw up running plays that create space for CJ. I think the O Line was bad. And I think the penalties destroyed offensive momentum and kept SD drives alive.
EJ's play was subpar but there's a lot of blame to go around. I don't think we would have won if Orton was in the game and I don't think Orton should start the next game.
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Evans was a classy, loyal player. And a great deep threat whose stats were hurt - as has been noted - by bad QB-ing.
I'd cheer loudly if I could be there.
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We'll have a better understanding how good Schwartz is as a DC after this game.
So far the Bills are limiting their opponents to 15 points per game. Shutting down the Chargers, though, will be a bigger challenge than shutting down the Phins.
It will be fun to watch.
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I'm staying on the bandwagon until I'm knocked off.
Bills 23, Bolts 14
The "experts" take - Bills at Texans
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Nate Silver is a good statistician. He's the guy who correctly picked the winner in all 50 states in the 2012 presidential election (after Romney's folks had some disparaging remarks about his methodology). Silver had previously gone 49 for 50 in 2008.
I'm not sure how successful he's been in his football work. But if he's picking the Bills over the Texans, I'm with him.
According to Silver's Elo ratings, we have a 34% chance of making the playoffs.