hondo in seattle
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I voted neither. Ray Rice averaged 3.1 yards per carry in 2013. You can get that production from a minimum-salary player, and without the media circus.
As for Spiller, he has proven to me that he doesn't possess the vision to be a regular contributor. He's best off getting 8-10 touches per game and it's foolish to pay $4 million for that.
We all know why you are questioning CJ's vision.
Yet Gailey got over 1,000 yards at 6 yards per carry from Spiller. If Gailey was smart enough to figure out how to use Spiller correctly, why aren't Marrone and Hackett?
But since Marrone and Hackett probably won't be any smarter next year than this, maybe it is best to cut Spiller loose.
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I really liked Orton as a backup. But I hate him as a starter. He is doing exactly what Orton has done his whole career so why are people surprised? There is not one Bears or Bronocs fan sad when Orton left. If Orton is our starter next year, there will be a big failure. Our 9th year QB's QBR is lower than Manuel's rookie year QBR. Upgrade!
Victor Crenshaw at 121 Rosedale Lane in Thornton, Colorado, was very sad then Orton left.
Btw, I think argument by hyperbole to be extremely persuasive.
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Heard something on the radio this morning about good coaches. Can't remember who the interview was (might have been Peter King on Dan Patrick) but basically a good HC is someone who can hire a good staff and people want to work for.
Marrone has his issues, but the staff he assembled, especially on defense, is awesome. Get this dude a decent QB and we are right back at the top. I really believe that
If a HC can hire a good ST coach, good DC and good OC - and his GM gives him some on-field talent to work with - life is great.
Remembering DJ, he had a good DC and a good ST coach. If he had just found an OC, he might still be the HC today.
Marrone has a good DC. Crossman's ST units are better this year though I'm still reluctant to call him a good ST coach. OC is still a problem which is worrisome because while Hackett is the de jure OC, I think Marrone is the de facto OC.
Nonetheless, I admit that these Bills have fight in them and are the best to wear the Bills colors in years.
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Who is this Merrone character?
Merrone, John... Here's the mug shot... Accused of multiple felonies.... Not sure why he'd be a HC of the Year candidate.... I'm guessing Bruce Arians has a better chance.
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Bryce Brown sits,thats one reason this offense sux. If you can`t see the explosion and hard running compared to Fred and C.J. ????? Duh Bills. He fumbled once, I seen Freddy and C.J. fumble during crucial times. This is one reason our O sux. 20 carries for 70 yds against one of worst run defenses. C,mon. They also make the line look worse. One is a woosey between the tackles and the other is the slowest back in the league. Get real. Needs to be Bryce and Boobie. They have had their losing years.
Both Dixon and CJ are averaging 4.2 yard per carry.
FJ is at 3.9.
Brown's "explosion" and "hard running" have earned him 3.5 ypc.
None of the backs are gobbling up yards in big chunk behind this line running Hackett's plays.
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I'd be super excited with a 10-6 record even if it doesn't get us into the playoffs.
9-7 is just a game above .500. But a 10-6 is clearly the record of a good team.
10-6 would be a great confidence booster for next year and could help attract FAs.
Is it worse to go 10-6 and miss the playoffs? Or go 10-6, make the playoffs, but lose in the first round?
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More Peter King...
TEN THINGS I THINK I THINK
1. I think this is what I liked about Week 15:
a. Most everything about Buffalo’s defense.
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Well, this season hasn't been devoid of disappointment. But we ought to thank Doug2 for making things interesting. It's the middle of December and the Bills still have a chance to make the playoffs.
If we win next week, and we should, I'll be glued to the TV the final week of regular season. Usually I avoid the TV that week because all the playoff mania just makes me feel low about another Bills season ending without a glimmer of hope.
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Am I missing something?
Woods hit him in the chest while the play was live. I hate dirty play but that doesn't seem dirty to me. Looks like good football.
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Marrone is doing a good job instilling a physical mentality. He deserves to stay.
Hackett is getting worse and MUST go. The design of the offense is atrocious.
I'll overstate it for the sake of argument:
THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON!
Hackett isn't some autonomous OC who's independently doing his own thing. He's Marrone's protege. He's the guy Marrone chose to install Marrone's offense and execute Marrone's offensive ideas.
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I don't want anyone on that list. I just puked in my mouth a little. We're in trouble if we can't land one in the draft.
Who are you going to draft that can start right away?
I think Orton's our guy for at least another year.
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http://profootballta...-return-to-l-a/
We've certainly heard this before. But just because it wasn't true in the past doesn't necessarily mean it won't be true this time. Still, I believe it when it actually happens.
But that's not why I started this thread. I'm more interested in this:
What the hell does that mean? I know the NFL is very powerful, and has the ability to influence decisions, but can they "send one or two teams" anywhere? Since when does the NFL decide where franchises will play?
Mike Florio is a former lawyer so you would think he knows what the NFL can - and can't - do.
Then again, isn't Florio the guy who reported that Terry Bradshaw died in a car accident several years ago?
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I agree with the San-O's assessment of OC, OG and QB being our biggest needs.
I just don't know how much will get resolved in the off season.
I am pretty sure Whaley will either draft a guard or sign a FA guard - or both.
QB is a bit of a dilemma since this isn't a good draft for QBs and I don't think a FA QB better than Orton will become available. Maybe we'll roll the dice with a later round draft pick as a developmental project
OC is a tough one too because for Marrone to fire Hackett is like Marrone firing himself. Hackett is Marrone's protege and he's running Marrone's offensive system. (It's curious that the worst unit of the team is the unit run by the HC).
If Hackett was fired (which I would find surprising), Marrone would probably then have to hire someone who probably wants more authority and autonomy than Marrone gave Hackett - someone with the freedom to install his own system and ideas.
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Another Kyle Orton thread?
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You are such an Orton apologist. He scored points against one terrible team. We average 17 in every other game he has started. That's below average.
And he's a 9th year player. Hackett's offense is not that complicated. Is he had a worse advantage that EJ was at as a rookie - missed half if training camp and a month of the season?
Orton just isn't a starter. It's been proven for 9 years.
Jim Plunkett wasn't a starter. It had been proven for 8 years. Then he led the Raiders to a Super Bowl victory.
Some guys get better with age. Some guys finally shine when they get in a system that makes use of their talents and covers up their shortcomings.
I don't know if Orton is one of those guys. But right now he's 17th in passer efficiency rating (amongst QBs with at least 100 attempts). At 262 ypg, his productivity is 14th. He's productivity and efficiency statistics are profoundly average for a NFL starter. Orton is what a typical NFL starter looks like.
And his stats are earned despite working for an OC who going through an on-the-job learning program. And despite a deficient OL that can't open up running lanes.
Like anyone, I would prefer Payton Manning to be the QB of the team. Or I'd love for Whaley to find the 'next Jim Kelly." But Orton isn't bad. He's merely mediocre.
Maybe next year with better guards and a smarter OC, he'll be better than mediocre. I don't know how anyone can know. To quote Socrates, "The only true wisdom is knowing you know nothing."
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We need 10 more sacks in the last 4 games to beat the Bills all-time sack record of 57 set last year.
But let's not forget the 1964 season. Unofficially, we had 50 sacks during that championship season. Teams played only 14 games back then and passed a lot less. So I'd guess the sacks/pass attempt ratio was actually higher in 1964.
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Is it my imagination or are the Bills cycling more players through the PS this year than in years past?
It seems as if they're using the PS for FA auditions rather than developing young talent.
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No QB is on target 100% of the time but Orton is clearly not as consistently accurate as some of the elite QBs. He's an average QB who will have some good days and bad days.
Where Whaley can help Orton is by signing some guards that will help create a run game that will take some pressure off him.
Where Marrone can help is Orton is by finding a better OC who can design a passing attack that produces more open receivers.
Btw, thanks Bocephuz. Good analysis as always.
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Funny how Johnny Football's TD against a soft D was the biggest story in the Bills win.
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I've been so focused on the difficulty of the Bills remaining games, I failed to notice the challenges that the other 7-5 teams face. Amazingly, they're all facing teams with 7 or more wins.
IF the Bills beat Denver, the playoff hunt will be very interesting down the stretch. If we're truly good enough to beat the Broncos, there's a fair chance we'll go 1-1 versus NE and GB and we should beat Oakland, leaving us at 10-6.
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That was pretty cool! My hawk loving friends would love it if I did this in Seattle.
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In college football, being able to recruit from your surrounding area is vital.
Leipold is from Wisconsin. He has no ties to upstate NY, or even PA / Ohio for that matter. I'm not sure he's really a good fit.
Cant argue with his record though.
I don't think being from Wisconsin will be a huge disadvantage, but not having experiencing recruiting very well could be.
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Can I admit reading this thread brought tears to my eyes?
I'm proud of the greater Buffalo Bills family.
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Prescient post. Good job!
Curious that he thought of himself as a QB first and WR second when TE seems to be the ideal position for him.
Orton Being Underappreciated Again with Bills
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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My bad. I thought he had overcome his gambling addiction by then.
But he was still happy - so I still think Biscuit's assertion was false.