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1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:
For as much as the fanbase critiques Brady's playcalling this season this was a masterfully simple gameplan that was executed well. It got the Bills out of there with a win and from what I understand no major injuries other than Bosa who had what was at worst a mild hamstring pull (and most likely was just cautionary pulling a guy with some tightness in a late game that was in control). The Bills needed a dominant win esp from the defense and they got just that.
I get what you're saying but the Bills offense only scored 19 points. It was enough. It was a win. And it was fun to see, especially when the hallmark of Pittsburgh football is physicality. We shoved the ball down their throats.
But getting 19 points from a Josh Allen led offense doesn't scream 'masterful' to me personally.
Still, watching the performance of both sides of the ball in the second half - after the doubt and frustration of the first half - brought joy to my heart.
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Before the Steeler game, I was:
7-2 when wearing my Josh jersey along with Bills sweatpants.
3-0 when wearing all that plus my Bills socks.
0-1 when wearing my Kelly jersey.
0-1 when wearing my Kyle Williams jersey.
So I went all in with Allen jersey, Bills sweats, and Bills socks. And it worked!
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That running game was great to see. But let's not rush into conclusions. Why did we run the ball so much? Why did we not throw down the field?
Part of the answer to these two questions is that the run game was working. But the other part was that Brady didn't trust the OL to protect Allen. Allen wasn't sacked today because (1) he didn't throw very often, and (2) most of his passed came out quick.
The Pitt DL is better at pressuring QBs than stopping runners. So Brady didn't give them a chance to pressure Josh by calling short, timing passes. It's what he should have done in the Texans game.
The shame is that the Steeler secondary isn't great and we didn't/couldn't take advantage of that because we don't have great wideouts and don't trust our OL (with the two starting tackles out) to protect Allen. Fortunately, we didn't have to pass downfield because our OL was pushing guys around on running plays.
Props to Van Demark and Anderson but I wouldn't want Brown or Dawkins to be out long term.
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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:
No way Allen said that. Just no way.
That’s what Heyward wanted to hear bc you know, he just wants you to know how great he is.
Friggin salty losers.
It seems to me Heyward quoted Allen saying, "I needed to do something to get you off of me." Not "Off my game."
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I don't think you can teach a team to win by losing on purpose.
And I'm just morally, ethically, and philosophically opposed to intentionally losing.
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2 hours ago, FireChans said:
Maybe the misuse is in investing in injury ridden and not very talented players in the defense year after year and then complaining about how the offense is only top 5/top 3.
@FireChans, I don't disagree. Beane has failed to give Josh & Brady a good receiving corps.
Yet, I do think it's odd that receivers continue to have production drops playing for Brady despite Josh being under center (Diggs, Samuel, Palmer, etc.). I'm also tired of hearing commentators (Cossel, Orlovsky, etc.) talk about how basic our passing concepts are. And I'm tired of Joshing scanning the field and finding no one to throw to because Brady can't scheme guys open.I'm not saying Brady's a bum. We've scored a lot of points with him as OC and I acknowledge that. He seems to have a knack for scheming a run game. But he also has Josh the Magic Alchemist turning crap pass plays into gold. Scheming a downfield passing game is not Brady's forte which is a shame because we have a generational QB who's incredible talents are being wasted to an extent.
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40 minutes ago, FireChans said:
Something very funny to me that Brady gets so much crap for coordinating a top 5 offense with horrific weapons, and the defense just keeps skating by lol.
It's true that our defense is worse than our offense. Maybe we talk so much about Brady because it's more fun to watch and discuss offense.
Or maybe it's because our defense isn't very talented and is riddle by injuries while our offense has a freakish, once-in-a-generation QB who's being misused.
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On 11/2/2025 at 6:58 PM, GASabresIUFan said:
I think everyone would like Brady better if we had better and a more diverse group of wideouts. Coleman is a big slot. Shakir, Moore, and Samuel are inside slots. Shavers is a PS player and Palmer is hurt.
You're right but a variety of people who know more about football (Cosell, Romo, Orlovsky, etc.) than I do have mentioned that our passing concepts are rather simple and/or unimaginative.
Andre Reed said their passing concepts back in the 90s were "vanilla" because they had the talent to make simple concepts work. Brady doesn't have the luxury of talented wideouts. So he should be working overtime to figure out how to scheme guys open.
And doesn't it strike you as odd that pretty much every receiver sees their production go down when they start playing for Brady (Diggs, Palmer, Samuel, Moore, etc.)?
When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade. But not Brady, he made durian juice.
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36 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said:
Get the ball out quick and Josh has to be better at pocket awareness. This is not the matchup for dancing around the pocket
Neither was last week's yet we saw it anyway.
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Every receiver who comes to Brady's Buffalo seed their production go down.
Does this mean Cooks will average less than the 16.5 yards/game that he's been racking up so far this season? -
Never sure who's going to show up: Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde. But I only pick against the Bills when I feel strongly about a bad matchup. This week, I don't know what to expect so I'm going with a Bills win...
Bills 24
Steelers 21
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17 hours ago, BearNorth said:
We lead the league in rushing yards, tenth in passing yards, third in total yards [only 7 ypg behind the leader], and we all complain about the offense. The problem is our #16 ranked defense, and our head coach is a supposed defensive guru.
This is all true. Our defense is the bigger problem.
I think we complain more about the offense for a couple of reasons:
First, we're fans. We like to see our teams score points.
Second, we have Josh Allen. Whether you want to blame Beane, Brady, or the wideouts, it's criminal that we have an inept downfield passing attack. -
8 hours ago, Long Suffering Fan said:
This is a terribly heartless thing to say, but I view guys like him, Samuel, and even Cooks as lottery tickets. They have shown flashes in the past, will they blossom here? Who knows. I'm never mad when we sign them (and I was actually cautiously optimistic about Samuel). If they don't pan out, it is time to move on. You don't keep lottery tickets that don't win.
Of course, it is a valid argument that we shouldn't be in such desperate straights that our strategy appears to be lottery tickets.
The fan in me says...maybe one of them will hit.
The problem is none of them pan out.
Since Brady became OC, pretty much every FA WR who Beane signs ends up having a bad year.
If I was a FA wideout, I'd stay away from the Bills like it was kryptonite.
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1 hour ago, Lost said:
Welcome to Buffalo new Elijah Moore. Same as the old Elijah Moore
Won't get fooled again!
1 hour ago, stlbills13 said:We're not that far away from rolling out Palmer, Coleman, and Shakir on Sunday just like it's opening night. For some reason there appears to be reluctance to sign Gabe to the active roster and then outside that it's Samuel (who never plays), Cooks (who got here today), and Shavers (who had as many yards as you and me last game)
I'm not the biggest Gabe backer on the planet, but I'd rather see Gabe on the field than Keon. Or Cooks. Or Shavers.
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13 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
During the Beane draft years (2018-25), Coleman is the only premium draft pick (Rounds 1-3) used on a wideout. Valuing the 3 rounds at (8-5-3) a reasonable system IMO. Where do the Bills rank? They rank DEAD LAST in the NFL with 5 points!! An average NFL team spent 21 pts on WR. And basically all the top teams (KC, SF, BAL, GB) during this period spent over the average on WR. Even if you included the Traded First rounder for Diggs the Bills rank in the bottom quartile. He doesn't value receivers high enough and that's how you end up in the pickle we're in. And, yes he has not handled the cap well by resigning a bunch of his draft picks believing he had succeeded in drafting well.
That's a good observation. I didn't know that we ranked last for WRs using that point system.
Though we do have to consider Diggs. We traded four picks to the Vikes to get Diggs if I recall correctly, including a #1. Does that up our score to 13 points or more? Even if it does, it's still under the 21-point average.
As I see it now, we're both right. Beane undervalues WRs and mismanages the cap. He's not a great wideout talent evaluator either, overvaluing guys like Keon, Curtis Samuel, Kelvin Benjamin, etc.
I have said in other posts that if you're lucky enough to have a unicorn QB, your two priorities as a GM ought to be getting him an elite OL bodyguard to protect him and capable WRs to throw to. Beane has an unimpressive record in this regard, sometimes giving us one or the other, but never both at the same time.
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2 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
The missed simplicity over the course of this era as to what better wide receivers would do for this team is mind blowing. Beane has the ingrained philosophy from the Cam Newton era in Carolina, priority number 8 is playmakers on the outside, even after Running backs!
I'm not so sure. Beane did sign Diggs for a lot of money and drafted Keon highly. I think he values wideouts.
But I think Beane has managed the cap poorly. I think we're overpaying for a bunch of players which meant that this past offseason when we needed WRs, Beane went shopping at Dollar Tree instead of Neiman Marcus.
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If I recall the verbiage correctly, Greg Cosell called our downfield passing scheme "elementary." Other analysts have made similar comments.
So what we need is a wideout so talented that he can get open even running simplistic, predictable routes. I am glad Beane did something, but I don't think Cooks is that guy.
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21 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:
Ehh, too little, too late imo.
You're not impressed by Cooks averaging 16.5 yards per game so far this year?
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12 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
Worth a watch!I view it much differently after watching. Beane and Brady have really screwed the pooch!!!
Thanks for posting! That was worth a watch.
Not very different from my own view of the game, but to hear an ex-NFL-er talk about the Texans' disrespect and disregard for our receivers was sobering.
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On 11/20/2025 at 9:24 PM, Einstein said:
The one stinky part of watching from a comfy couch (which I prefer) is that you don’t get to see the whole field.
You don’t get to see what the QB is looking at.
Being at the game, you can. I was there. Where is what I saw:
1) It is tough to describe in words (because people think you’re exaggerating when you’re not) how covered our receiving options were. Texans players were step for step locked in on our receiving options. There were entire series where I don’t think our receivers had an INCH of separation.
2) Allen was watching this unfold and has NO WHERE to throw to 99% of the game, and to make matters worse, he was being pressured non-stop. 28 total pressures, I believe was the final number.
3) What does superman do when he is being pressured and his receivers can’t get open in a normal (or expedited) amount of time? He scrambles to buy them more time to get open. But by doing so, he gets sacked - deep. Fans who don’t understand what is happening yell “just throw the ball away!” not realizing that this option simply makes it a punt on 4th and 7 instead of a punt on 4th and 20. It also means you don’t have any super hero plays, like his 3rd and 12 scramble. At one point in the game the Texans fans next to us said “there is nothing he can do” … they were right.
4) Brady, for most of the game, kept calling deep crossers, option routes, and traffic beaters. I was pulling my hair out because Allen didn’t have enough time as it was, and Brady had receivers running routes that take 3-5 seconds. On the last 2 drives he finally connected a few neurons and reverted to a shorter route tree and exploited what Houston wasn’t covering (the flats and quick hitters). Magically the offense starting moving the ball.
5) Last thing: I think defenses have figured out Brady’s progression scheme. They seem to be leaving coverage after Allen checks off an option in his progression. This sometimes makes an option look open but Allen is no longer looking at them so it doesn’t matter.
You will see this when the ALL-22 comes out. It was very frustrating.
Thanks for posting this, Einstein. It only amplified my concerns about Brady.
Our downfield passing game is probably the weakest part of our offense. Our receivers don't separate and Brady hasn't demonstrated any genius at scheming guys open.
Downfield passing is probably the strength of the Texan defense. Their secondary is very good and their DL can generate pressure without tons of blitzing.So why were we watching Josh drop back, scan the field, and get clobbered? What was Brady thinking?
We all knock Brady for being too conservative, but this was a game when he should have dialed up lots of runs (instead of 19 rushes by RBs versus 34 passes) and short, quick passes where the ball is out of Josh's hand in 2.0 seconds.
Unless I'm missing something, it was one of the dumbest game plans I've ever seen.
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I blame them all.
If I were Pegs, though, I wouldn't fire anyone. I would sit down with Beane and McD at the end of the season and ask them what they'll do to make next season better. Hoping for fewer injuries, needless to say, wouldn't be an acceptable answer.
I'd need Beane to tell me - at a minimum - that he's going to plus-up the scouting department and/or modify how they evaluate players so we don't have any more Elams and Colemans.
I'd need McD to tell me - at a minimum - that we're going to hire a passing game coordinator who'll help revitalize our stagnant, simplistic downfield passing game.
Only if I didn't get those answers would I consider firing anyone.
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I think Brady is designing game plans, though I'm not sure what that was yesterday.
Because the Texans are good at pressuring QBs, and have a particularly strong secondary, I expected a heavy dose of Cook and the RBs, balanced with some short, quick passes.Instead, I got a huge serving of Josh dropping back, scrambling, and getting sacked. Downfield passing is not a strength of the Bills, nor a weakness of the Texans, so I'm not sure what the idea was. Why would we dial up weakness versus strength?
And with 116 from Cook, maybe someone could say we did get a heavy dose of Cook. But not really. We only ran him 17 times despite a 6.8 ypc against the league's best defense. And for a long while it seemed like Brady forgot about him. RBs only totaled 19 carries versus 34 pass attempts.
I'm not sure what Houston vulnerability Brady was trying to attack, but he didn't do it very well.
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5 hours ago, Andy1 said:
Great interview of Shavers. So easy to root for. Him and Josh have the same prove them wrong mentality. He also talks about his friendship with Keon.
Seems like a solid, intelligent guy whose head is in the right place.
Somewhere else, I posted that skill-wise, he was more or less a jag. But I want to be wrong. I root for him and hope he becomes a regular contributor to the Bills offense.
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2 hours ago, Big Turk said:
Interesting...
Allen is 8th in the NFL in passing YPG and he is tied for 3rd in Avg Yards at 8.4, by far the highest of his career, which was 7.7 last year.
We think the passing offense has been "bad" but overall it's been much better than most teams and it shows that every team has games where they don't look good on offense.
The main issue with the Bills is that it happens so infrequently since Allen has come into his own that we think it's a major issue when they don't play well offensively.
We've seen Josh make some bad decisions. Although Josh throws picks at about the same rate that Brady did, Josh throws more boneheaded picks, and I think that affects how some people see him.
And yet, Josh leads the entire NFL in EPA/play.
1. Josh +0.26
2. Mayfield +0.25
3. Daniel Jones +0.24
Josh's score is higher than most of Brady's season EPA ratings.It's an interesting Top Three list because teams had given up on #2 and #3.
Even with the league's best score, I think Josh's EPA can go up even higher when & if Josh improves his decision-making process, Brady does a better job scheming a downfield passing game, and Beane gives the offense better weapons.

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Andre Reed, who I do think hangs with the team from time to time, said something similar about needing a few players who aren't afraid to confront other players and hold them accountable.