[DORSEY FIRED, Joe Brady Interim OC]

12 minutes ago, 34-30 said:

DC's are smart. Very smart. They watch the film. They take away what you want to do and force you to adjust and do something different. Its up to the offense..up to the QB...to make the adjustment and take what is left to them. Do that well and it forces the defense to do something else..opening up what you did originally..what you want to do.

 

Defenses know that Allen will throw it to them.  No need to readjust.  They know he'll beat them at times..a few plays here, a few plays there. But until he stops giving it away, they'll swallow their medicine on a few drives.  

 

Guys..his game isn't growing. If he has to be "freed" and allowed to do what he wants, thats not growth. Because teams aren't going to let that happen.  You can harp on coaching all you want...and yes, coaches had issues..but Allen needs to grow his game. He needs to stop pouting and looking lost and moping through a press conference and the turnovers have to stop. 

 

I don't think they will.  This is who he is. He's not a savior. He's a highly talented kid with major flaws. And teams are exploiting those flaws.

Valid points. But you grow your game when your OC is your boss and not your buddy. Josh needs a guru to make him grow as a QB. He regressed a lot under Dorsey.

[The Good, The Bad, The Ugly 12 Men on the Field Addition]

One good thing: we're finally playing complementary football, all three phases suck.

[Dan Orlovsky….. Bills offense is fundamentally broken]

13 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

Be careful here. You'll get some homers in here show up and puke on you or roll their eyes on you because "who are you?" "You're just a couch QB who knows nothing. Those coaches are professionals!"

 

You and I and others with functional brains know that it ain't rocket science out there, but amazingly, many in here think it is.

Right. But then just point to the results. Our elite QB is a turnover machine and we insist the way to get a 3rd or 4th and one is to shotgun 5 yards from the LOS. Mostly due to the crap OL we have. 

[Bills vs Broncos-Monday Night Football]

Get ready for the D to give up gobs of yards on the ground and the O to sputter again. Bills will let them hang around and it will be a white knuckle, last play decides the game affair. I don't place to watch that movie again.

[Week 9 thread - We’re on to Cincinnati]

2 minutes ago, Caesar said:

 

Gotcha, in all my years of posting on message boards I can tell you that not once have I read a Benglas fan trash the city of Buffalo and ALL the people that live there, much less an entire state like that.  Interesting to see that you condone this.

Bengals beat the Ravens for Buffalo, rooted for the Bills in the playoffs thereafter, and Cincy totally respected the Hamlin incident.  Trash like that simply reeks of jealousy and childish anger due to the Bengals current success, IMHO.  You guys stay classy and do you.

This Burrow's mom?

[Best Bills Cornerback of all time?]

Butch Byrd

Robert James

Antoine Winfield

Booker Edgerson

Mario Clark

 

We've had some great CBs. 

[Rasul Douglas to Bills - per Rap]

1 minute ago, Airseven said:

 

He certainly doesn't suck. He's just not a difference maker. Good fit - and I hoped last year the Bills would have a shot at him in free agency. Certainly wouldn't have surrendered a 3rd rd pick for him. 

Last year we had Tre. This year if Jackson or Benford go down we got Josh Norman. This is a solid pick up and if Tre does come back, a potentially great CB tandem.

[Bills signing Fournette (for real this time)]

It's for when we get to the 1 yard line and not get stuffed for once.

[The Good, The Bad, The Ugly TNF Bucs edition]

On 10/27/2023 at 9:17 AM, FireChans said:

There’s a large correlation between a lack of stars on defense and our inability to close out games on defense.

 

It’s not that we are chokers. It’s that our defense is full of average NFL talent.

Not on the D. Offense should have closed out the game and not punt it back. Great teams and

QBs wouldn't have given the ball back. Our offense cannot close games out, give the ball back for white knuckle time repeatedly. 

[The Official Fire Ken Dorsey Thread]

Dorsey needs to stop running from the shotgun on the damn goaline and get this team to make crucial 1st downs to close out a game. Two runs up the middle and a failed third and long is not getting it done, but that's his damn MO.

[I’m sick of the defensive timeouts…]

35 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

Would you care to provide evidence that McDermott's defensive timeouts hurt the Bills?  Otherwise, it's likely an irrational complaint. 

 

This is at best, unproven. There is a much likelier chance that Mayfield and his linemen heard the whistle and stopped the play. Moreover, there is the chance that McDermott saw something that could have resulted in significant Tampa gain. 

We'll never know.

[The Knox injury unfortunately has changed this offense for the better]

13 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

It wasn’t that much better in the end, I think it just felt like that because they got off to a better start. 
 

They had 3 tremendous opportunities to kill the game in the 4th and came up empty on all of those drives. 
 

Make no mistake, this offense still has big problems. 

This. This team and coaching staff has repeatedly let teams back into games and turned a comfortable win into a white knuckler. Say what you want but if  Brady and the Pats had a lead and the ball with 5:00 left in the game, it was over. We do not hand have never had that killer instinct. 

[Last minute/play game management]

1 hour ago, Bruffalo said:

Look, I think McD has way too much faith in this defense considering the injury situation.  I do think we need to be more aggressive, but I'm not sure if I trust Dorsey to be consistent or creative enough to manage that. 

 

So it's a rock and a hard place kind of situation. 

 

 

Fair point.

[I’m sick of the defensive timeouts…]

In the waning seconds of the game, we had Mayfield for a sack only to find McD called a time out. Instead of a few seconds left, the clock was reset to 16 seconds. He's had several TOs that cost us in the past as well. 

[The Official Fire Ken Dorsey Thread]

8 hours ago, Simon said:

 

Umm, we picked up a first down with about 2:20 left.

Umm, and gave the ball back soon after with enough time on the clock so they could have one more crack at a score. Close it out like the big boys do.

 

[The Official Fire Ken Dorsey Thread]

I'll be on Dorsey until he actually can close a game out and get a first down in crunch time. 3:00 left in the game, close it out. We can't do it. 

[TB / Buffalo Postgame thread]

This team is incapable of closing a game out. Can't make that vital 1st down or can't get off the field. Bonehead penalties on 4th down stops. We go ultra conservative and make what should be a solid win into a white knuckler.  We do this over and over. Great teams finish. We cannot. 

[Rumors swirling that Elam will be a scratch tonight for Norman. Trade coming?]

59 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Isabella makes 100% perfect sense. As soon as Knox went down and Morris is out - we need a guy to run the 12. Isabella is big and will fit that role for tonight.

Huh?

[Jim Kubiak Analysis in BN]

Which brings us to the Dorsey question again. So what if they had a good D plan?  If the rush is overloaded something has to be open and it's up to the OC to scheme it -- say maybe a shotgun draw or two. 😡

[Joe Marino says all-22 Review shows Josh deserves a lot of blame for Pats Loss]

By no means an expert, but Josh seems to have lost his pluck. He's not the ####-sure QB he was. He looks tentative and unsure on many snaps. Like to see him swagger again. 

[Twitter - Josh, Von called players only meeting (reporter also mentioned possibility at McD presser)]

1 hour ago, VaMilBill said:

That was one game. Offense has been doing it all season 

Slow deterioration.  One of the worst 3rd down Defenses in the league. Down our two starting DTs, all-pro LB and CB, this D keeps nobody up at night. Blitz after blitz was a fail and gobs of yardage given up at key moments. We made Mac look like Burrow. Hope Oliver can play Thursday.

[Eagles trade for All Pro S Kevin Byard]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

DT, LB, OT, and WR. 
 

I am struggling with the depth chart on this one. 

Add CB and safety. 

[Twitter - Josh, Von called players only meeting (reporter also mentioned possibility at McD presser)]

2 hours ago, VaMilBill said:

Probably wondering how they can dump Dorsey without actually coming out and saying it

Well the DC didn't shine Sunday either. Giving up good of yardage regularly and seeming cannot stop anything that turns the corner.  

[The Official Fire McDermott Thread]

4-3. Back to a drought era good but not good enough team. 

[The Official Fire Ken Dorsey Thread]

The team is broken. McD and Dorsey have lost them. We missed the window. 13 seconds was our year and the coaches lost it, and are not good enough to bring it back. I was sure Josh would bring us a championship but that looks years away now. Many teams are flat-out better than we are. 

 

Maybe a new OC,  HC or a new GM will value on OLine in the future, and value real receivers past Diggs. Next year no Poyer or Hyde. Diggs past 30, Dawkins is on the decline and Morse is finished. Still no elite weapons past Diggs. Secondary is a mess and can't stop FN Mac Jones. Beane's volume vs value mindset has failed. I believe it may be time to move on while Josh is in his prime.