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What? ...Go do your reasearch bud, he only lost 3 games and was injured in the redskins game during week 11. You'd wish the Bills went 4-3 in the beginning of the year. If the Titans won at least 3 games with Kerry Collins after VY got injured they'd be in the playoffs.
http://www.nfl.com/players/vinceyoung/gamelogs?id=YOU617196
I did my research. Thanks.
Sorry, he doesn't get credit for the wins vs Jax and Phi, seeing he attempted 5 passes vs Jax and none vs Philly. Guess I didn't look close enough. So he was actually 3-5 in games that he played a significant part of. Thanks for proving my point further.
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How do you explain his 98.6 QB rating 10TD/3INT season this year?
...and his 5-5 record? Pristine.
What I was getting at was everyone was saying how he led the Titans on an 8-2 run to end last year, and I thought it was more related to the season that Chris Johnson had than anything. And with his "amazing" stats this year he had a .500 record.
And by the way, his 98.6 QB rating was attained by averaging 15 atts and 9 comps a game. INCREDIBLE!!!
And what he usually lacks passing-wise he makes up for his running abilities, right? Try 125 rush yards and no TDs this year.
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That's the silliest reply I can even think of.... Handed a 6 game hole to work out of and your giving him a hard time for only winning 8 of 10 to finish? Again - after losing 6 including that 59-0 gem to the pats, at home.
Honestly, dropped on this team, we probably wouldve been .500
Problem is I don't buy that he can win a superbowl unless he really figures himself out, which is rare. If we are adding a qb of the future, I want it to be a future world champion, not a future wild card winner.
One thing that tempts me is I think VY might be able to steal a win against the evil empire in NE. I don't buy this team with fitz doing that.
Truly I think you go with fitz, and hope to get a guy at 3 or 34 to sit a year.
I'm sorry, I wouldn't want to leave your head spinning with such a silly reply.
Here, I'll try more seriously...
We're talking about the amazing 8-2 run to finish the season after the 0-6 run the Titans began the season with, right? Let's consider this...
Chris Johnson...the man who set the NFL's all-time yards from scrimmage mark that season.
1st 6 games 0-6 record
596 rush yards and 2 TDs (avg 99.3 rush ypg)
126 rec yards and 1 TD (avg 21.0 rec ypg)
722 total yards and 3 TDs (120.3 ypg...0.5 TD/game)
Final 10 games 8-2 record
1,410 rush yards and 12 TDs (141.0 rush ypg)
377 rec yards and 1 TD (37.7 rec ypg)
1,787 total yards and 13 TDs (178.7 ypg and 1.3 TDs/game)
Maybe the Titans fantastic 10 game run to finish the 2009 season was more directly attributed to the absolutely unfathomable run that Chris Johnson went on (which has got to be THE sickest, if not one of the top 3 seasons a RB has ever had) then the very average play of Vince Young during that same stretch...
Vince Young's 2009 season
58.7 comp %, 1,879 pass yards, 10 TDs-7 INTs
281 rush yards and 2 TDs
I didn't mean to be so silly earlier.
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This link took me to a link telling me that it's the wrong link.
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The nerve of this little punk wanting to stay in school and earn a degree.
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I don't want Young here simply because he's a douche but you obviously didn't see him play the 2nd half of the season and almost lead them to the playoffs after starting the season 0-6.
The word that sticks out to me in your post is ALMOST. I remember in 2004 when Drew Bledsoe ALMOST led us to the playoffs. What a winner.
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I'm wondering how good Penn State would have been with Devlin leading that team instead of the freshman (Bolden) and sophomore (McGloin)they had this year. JoePa is a legend, but he didn't want Jim Kelly as a QB and this Pat Devlin didn't get a shot? Wow.
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I guess by "Bills top list" he meant alphabetically.
But that means Arizona tops the list for VY's services.
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Elway has already said he won't be re-signing Harris. He would be a great addition at RT and wouldn't break the bank either
I'm guessing he would be a great addition but I'm ALSO guessing he's going to get an ENORMOUS long term contract, doesn't sound like something the Bills are going to do. I see him going to the Redskins for some crazy reason.
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AP turned out OK I'd say.
What about Matthew Stafford?
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As an offensive-minded coach, I wouldn't be surprised if Chan will want to draft WR A.J. Green with the #3 pick.
Wether or not this would happen is up for debate, but it wouldn't totally shock me if Green is the pick.
I have no idea what the Bills are going to do, but PLEASE no AJ Green at #3!!! We have so many other pressing needs and WR (with Steve Johnson and Lee Evans) is FAR from our biggest. They may not be all-world, but we really need to build up our D.
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I'm sure the way the pro bowl has been going, that 2 or 3 of these guys will skip the event and Stevie will be in there as a 1st or 2nd replacement (Mike Wallace of Pittsburgh deserves some recognition with his 1,152 yards, 20.2 yards/rec and 9 TDs.
The guy I think is pretty overrated is Brandon Marshall. He is a physical speciman and he only averages 11.3 yards/rec and has just 3 TDs.
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New photos of Michelle Ryan (the article) with another man fondling her feet...
Not my thing, but the talk radio guys are having some interesting comments here in the NY media, some are suggesting that he is an embarrassment to the Jets and should step down. I feel for the guy, he may have his kinks, but it is pretty embarrassing to see this stuff come (the pics) up from his past.
Are you sure that guy isn't Rex?
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I don't think he beats out Reggie Wayne even if he makes that catch. Not that Wayne belongs there.
The guy who clearly got screwed is Bowe. Better year than Steve Johnson.
http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story/09000d5d81d470fb/article/2011-pro-bowl-rosters
I don't know if you meant Bowe clearly got screwed because he isn't starting, but he definitely made the Pro Bowl roster.
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It was 1992, I was 14 years old and was visiting my aunt in Buffalo (I grew up in Erie) and she surprised me with tickets to my first Bills game. It was against Denver and we played the two-headed monster of Tommy Maddox and Shawn Moore. Elway was out with an injury. I think the Bills were coming off a 2 game losing streak and the Bills had a play in the 2nd quarter where Kelly took the snap and tossed it to Thurman, who then handed it off to Andre Reed on a reverse, then Reed threw it back to Kelly and he hit Don Beebe for a wide open 65 yard TD. I will never forget the feeling I had that day. Best Xmas present ever.
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Won't the h2h count with us and Cincy or is that not worked into the draft slot?
I'm not sure how it works...but I know the team with the EASIER strength of schedule gets the better pick while the team with the tougher one gets the worse one. So with that thinking, it would seem to me since Cincy lost to us, they would get the better pick. They try and give it to the team that needs more help, but I think it's a lousy rule.
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and if bills win next week?
After today's showing, your statement is pretty humorous.
I know, I know...any given sunday.
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Thank you!! You have a fantastic holiday as well!!!
GO BILLS!!!!!
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I went through the standings and schedules of the bottom half of the leaugue and using a very complex system (my brain) I predicted how these teams finish record-wise. I didn't determine stregnth of schedule or anything to see exactly where each team would pick, because of the complex system I used (which was...my brain), I only have final records.
If the Bills finish 4-12
1. Carolina 2-14
2. Cincy 3-13
Denver 3-13
4. Arizona 4-12
Buffalo 4-12
Detroit 4-12
7. Cleveland 5-11
San Fran 5-11
Washington5-11
10.Dallas 6-10
Houston 6-10
Minnesota 6-10
Seattle 6-10
Tennessee 6-10
If the Bills finish 5-11
1. Carolina
2. Cincy
Denver
4. Arizona
Detroit
6. Buffalo
Cleveland
San Fran
Washington
10.Dallas
Houston
Minnesota
Seattle
Tennessee
So in the first scenario (going 4-12) Buffalo would pick between 4 and 6
In the second scenario (going 5-11) Buffalo would pick between 6 and 9
In the unlikely 6-10 scenario, buffalo would pick between 9 and 14
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Not quite sure I understand your response. But that is ok.
I'll explain it to you. There's a movie called "Good Will Hunting" starring Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. In that movie there's a scene at a bar where Ben Affleck's character (not sure of his name, but he's the "dumb" friend of a closet "genius" played by Damon) is hitting on a girl, and a pompous loser who goes to Harvard tries to make him look like a fool in front of said girl. At that point, Matt Damon steps in and goes on a rant to the Harverd "loser" (which is the dialogue I wrote out in previous post).I then said you remind me of that smug jerk at the bar in that movie.
So if you still are lost, please watch the movie, and when the bar scene comes on, the guy with the sweater tied over his shoulder and the long ponytail reminds me of you.
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I've voted for Fitzpatrick 3,022 times. I don't have a life.
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I, for one, think Fitzpatrick should walk into the huddle with a bowtie and pocket protector hanging off his jersey and some really thick coca-cola bottle glasses under his helmet and correct everyone's English when they're talking smack on the field.
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not what I wrote.
But isn't this what the media does to pro athletes, alter their quotes to fit their agenda?
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Hold on a minute, "dude." Back up. Did you just associate "majoring in liberal arts" with a "football factory school education"????? I'm not sure where you are coming from here, but a degree in literature, theology, or philosophy, to me, is an intellectual achievement. I will not stoop to denigrating other disciplines, but anyone who studies the seminal ideas of our intellectual tradition, and who learns to think, read, write, and speak, as required for a degree in the liberal arts, is an educated person of the highest order.
Any idea why they are called "Liberal" arts????? Go read Cardinal Newman's Idea of a University, or Joseph Pieper's Leisure: the Basis of Culture, and then we will talk. You just picked fight with the wrong "dude."
Of course that's your contention. You're a first year grad student. You just got finished reading some Marxian historian, Pete Garrison, probably. You're gonna be convinced of that til next month when you get to James Lemon. Then you're gonna be talking about how the economies of Virginia and Pennsylvania were entrepreneurial and capitalist way back in 1740. That's gonna last until next year; you're gonna be in here regurgitating Gordon Wood, talkin about, you know, the pre-revolutionary utopia and the capital forming effects of military mobilization.
Your response: Well, as a matter of fact I won't, because Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social...
Wood drastically underestimates the impact of social distinctions predicated upon wealth, especially inherited wealth? You got that from Vickers' "Work in Essex County" ,page 98, right? Yeah, I read that, too. Were you gonna plagarize the whole thing for us? Do you have any thoughts of your own on this matter? Or do you, is that your thing, you come into a bar, read some obscure passage and then pretend, you pawn it off as your own, as your own idea just to impress some girls, embarrass my friend?
See, the sad thing about a guy like you is, in 50 years you're gonna start doing some thinking on your own and you're going to come up with the fact that there are 2 certainties in life. One, don't do this...and two, you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on an f*$@!ng education you could have got for a dollar fifty in late charges at the public library.-Will Hunting.
You kinda sound like the dork at the bar Tolstoy.
Bills top list of landing spots for Vince Young
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by machinegun12
So you would say that being a running team, their success/failure hinges on the running game and not the play of their QB, huh? Wow, the point I've been making ALL ALONG.
Are you nuts, you're not giving him a loss vs Wash because he didn't finish the game but you give him the wins vs Jax and Philly which he threw a total of 5 passes? OK.