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don't worry there is always something new around the corner http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/opening-statements-in-spooner-trial-turn-on-intent-mental-capacity-b9955359z1-215676871.html

Actually I think of Detroit as a cautionary tale of being a one industry town- 20 years from now I expect places in ND to experience something similar as the pace of well drilling and pipeline laying decreases- it's great to be in the expansion side of thing and sucks to be on the contraction side of things.

Tom being unfairly thought of as arrogant was one of though" his own consensus "

I can think of a coupe of reasons As GZ followed TM, GZ was talking on his cell ,which we know was police dispatch, but to TM might be a partner of GZ, someone GZ is directing When TM starts running GZ is still in his truck on a road that parallels the route TM needs to go home TM just has his younger brother at home and he might want to make sure he loses GZ before he goes home If you can, listen to the second police interview- I agree with the detective,s view, that since GZ got to the dog walk about 12 seconds after TM and didn't see TM ,that TM was probably hiding not going down the dog walk. One of the things I hope results from this case, is a law that neighborhood watch must have something that Identifies their vehicles and themselves when they are acting in that function. GZ thought TM was a burglar and TM thought GZ was some kind of pervert or other bad guy, proper identification may have prevented this tradgety.

Tom will find that very insulting- I on the other hand am just happy to be here at PPP, a statistical anomaly overrun with financial mavens,cyber gurus, Ramboesq urbermen and polymaths of such caliber that Newton, Da vinci, and Descartes would be hard pressed to make it to the crest of the Bell curve. Everyday I can scrap and skitter amidst this forest of mental titans I consider it a privilege

It could be Tom that you may be just a brain in a jar and nothing is real. just neural input, so my posts may be nothing other than irritation designed to produce the mental equivalent of pearls in your grey matter.

I didn't call names I described how I think Tom is constructed, and for you I expressed concern for your well being, any hate you felt is just an internalization of your ill will towards Yankee liberals.

Farmboy you are snorting up to much methane and have probably contracted mad cow disease, get tested for prions immediately .

actually Nix said something like we signed him because we thought he was the best option to help the team but don't expect him to play up to his contract, he can't, no one could.

Did you call out the meme that TM walked 400ft to his house - not stopping in to get a weapon, or call his thug gang hommies, or catch up on the all-star game, or at least to drop off his skittles and drink before he turned around and walked back to attack the man he was running from- Jesus Tom you are a human skin filled with eels and the tears of children.

Ok it was brought to my attention that some still don't understand why Jeantel's testimony that TM said he was close to home doesn't mean, really can't mean, he was within feet of his home. I'll try to be more clear this time. GZ call to police dispatch non emergency 7:09: 34 start 7:11:41 GZ "**** he's running" 7:11:45 out of Truck 7:11:48 Truck door slam 7:11:54 GZ running/jogging/walking briskly starts 7:11:56 GZ"!@#$ing punks" 7:11:57- 7:12:02 PD "are you following him?" GZ "yeah" PD "ok we don't need you to do that" GZ "ok" 7:12:11 GZ "he ran" 7:12:15 GZ running/jogging/walking briskly ends 7:12:46 at this point according to GZ statement to police he's walking back to his truck 7:13:39 end TM last 2 calls Jeantel 6:54:16 start 7:11:47 end 7:12:06 start 7:15:43 end Jeantel's testimony was that TM said "he was close to home" in their second to last call which ended at 7:11:47 at that time you can see by GZ's police non-emergency call that TM is still in sight of GZ but making a dash towards the dog walk.

I split that sentence badly - I meant war criminals including Obama would stand trial and also a lot of bankers committing fraud/manipulation would also be standing trial . does that clarify ?

We haven't been a nation of laws for a awhile now, if we were a lot of war criminals including Obama and bankers would be standing trial.

It's probable that TM ran to the dog walk and hid, probably behind either the first or second little privacy fence on the right hand side

really? I call glass houses

I would have said Constitutional freedoms/human rights, rule of law, expansive optimism, cooperative development, respect for sovereignty and leading by example-economics is down the line for me but to each his own emphasis.

Good for you, the way you beat terrorist is to not live in fear and to return to the values that made us great.

That's true but I have real life experiences with it too, traveled with my brother and two cousins last year and my cousins were so nervous about terrorist and after that car jackings that by the end it really took a lot of fun out of the trip. I also have a brother-in-law who is a gun nut , who goes on about his different guns like they're a cross between classic cars,and beautiful women, with geek baseball like statistics thrown in for good measure - he talks about what he'd do if they had an home invasion all the time- I'd like to say dude you live in cow country 50 miles at least from a decent urban center, nobodies coming to steal your goodies, I'd like to say that but he's heavily armed so I guess that's a point in his favor. same type of neighborhood I grew up in - but no one was slow driving behind kids (in fact a person doing that might have been chased) and most people were not running around armed.

If I was the prosecutor I would have gone after him as hard as possible - I'm a big supporter of the 2nd amendment but shouldn't the right to bear arms come with some judgement and a sense of proportionality- on a visit to do a behavioral evaluation I had about 4 dollars of toll change taken by two skinny kids- I was pissed but being in the middle of things couldn't do much except yell then close and lock my car doors- I was pissed but what would have never even entered my mind is chasing them down with a gun or even chasing them down and giving them a beating, I would have liked reporting them to their parents - I really don't understand why some people now are so obsessed with their safety, so twitchy and hyper-reactive - crime peaked in the early 1980's and I don't remember any such state of fear then like death was lurking behind every corner - since then crime rates have steadily gone down, murder rates are less than half what they were at their peak and all violent crime is down- people seem to have no rationality about what is likely to harm them, you are 4x more likely to die from lightning than a terrorist attack and thousands to hundreds of thousands of more times likely to die from things like medical errors, obesity, prescription drugs and job stress- yet we are willing to spend hundreds of billions of dollars and give up our Constitutional protections for some tiny measure of extra security against something less likely to harm you than bee stings or a toddler jumping on you, why aren't we putting targets on real threats like pastry chefs, pharmacists, and pointy headed bosses- I just feel like a lot of people have lost their damn minds but I guess there is nothing illegal about that.

GZ call to police dispatch non emergency 7:09: 34 start 7:11:41 GZ "**** he's running" 7:11:45 out of Truck 7:11:48 Truck door slam 7:11:54 GZ running/jogging/walking briskly starts 7:11:56 GZ"!@#$ing punks" 7:11:57- 7:12:02 PD "are you following him?" GZ "yeah" PD "ok we don't need you to do that" GZ "ok" 7:12:11 GZ "he ran" 7:12:15 GZ running/jogging/walking briskly ends 7:12:46 at this point according to GZ statement to police he's walking back to his truck 7:13:39 end TM last 2 calls Jeantel 6:54:16 start 7:11:47 end 7:12:06 start 7:15:43 end Neighbor's call 911 7:16: 11 start 7:16: 55 gunshot http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/26/rachel-jeantel-trayvon-martin_n_3505587.html can anyone see why the scenario of TM walking 400 ft to his house and then back 400 ft is unlikely - I mean besides the laws of physics, a rudimentary understanding of human nature, and common sense-does anyone understand that close to my fathers house doesn't have to mean within feet.

all activities not found suspicious by a reasonable person- walking in the rain, talking on a cell, carrying a bag from 7/11, looking around, looking at a person looking at you. examples of suspicious activities- carrying a tv down the street, standing on a garbage can to access a window, following a minor. verdict= Trayvon not engaged in suspicious activity. Clothes: what criminals may wear- Black hooded sweatshirt 2-3 sizes too big, black baggy pants, black sneakers/boots what Trayvon was wearing- dark grey hooded sweat shirt normal size, light color pants cuffed, white sneakers verdict = a reasonable person does not find that Trayvon looks suspicious by the clothes he wears. Time: break-ins happen when most people are at work 10am-3pm or when most people are asleep 12pm-5am Trayvon is out at 7pm virtually the worst time to commit a break-in. verdict = the hour that Trayvon is out can in noway be found suspicious by a reasonable person. Place: the community is not a specialized community- not restricted by age like a retirement community, by sex like a convent, by race, or by religion- Travyon is living there with his father verdict = no reasonable person could find that Trayvon was suspicious by just being there overall verdict= not suspicious by observed activity, not suspicious by dress, not suspicious by hour of the day, not suspicious by merely being there I think some here have a misconception of what racism is- some people think racism has to entail hatred but that is not true, racism is a form of prejudice, which is believing stereotypical qualities exist in a group whether reality based or imagined and acting on an assumption those qualities exist in an unknown member of that group. Thus Zimmerman doesn't have to have hatred towards blacks to be racist he merely has to have a belief of stereotypical qualities in a group (in this case something like black males age 15-55 have a high likelihood of engaging in criminal behavior ) and then act on a assumption that an unknown member of that group (Trayvon) shares that quality and is thus suspicious.

If you want I'll find fault with it and you can call me an Idiot.

That is a good article

Yep prosecution was poor, all starting with over charging and going down hill from there

my first choice would be trading Byrd for equivalent draft picks - a 2014 1st or 2nd and 3rd- my second choice would be keep a happy Byrd btw not over paying a player only helps the team, if they then take that saved money and use it to help the team acquire or retain talent, it hasn't been my experience that Buffalo does that all the time.