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6 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:
Does anyone seriously think the problem with our offense is the TEs?
Someone here thinks Knox is.
1 minute ago, BarleyNY said:
It’s funny. When we drafted Allen I said that if we want him to be successful we’re going to have to treat him like Duante Culpepper and find him a Moss and Carter to run under deep balls he chucks up for grabs. That’s absolutely a viable way to run an offense, but let’s not pretend that it wouldn’t be covering up a big QB deficiency with great WR talent. It’s also viable to find a QB who can throw accurately and beat man coverage somewhere other than short and over the middle.1 minute ago, BarleyNY said:
It’s funny. When we drafted Allen I said that if we want him to be successful we’re going to have to treat him like Duante Culpepper and find him a Moss and Carter to run under deep balls he chucks up for grabs. That’s absolutely a viable way to run an offense, but let’s not pretend that it wouldn’t be covering up a big QB deficiency with great WR talent. It’s also viable to find a QB who can throw accurately and beat man coverage somewhere other than short and over the middle.Bills make it seem impossible
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12 hours ago, 34-78-83 said:
Nope, not close.
Allen connects on many , MANY types of passes that Tyrod wouldn't dream of releasing.
Allen a better runner and also a better passer. Allen needs consistency and a better OC will do that for him.
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14 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
Not really buying that the problem is that he doesn't want to throw INTs. No QB in history wants to throw INTs. And yet many manage to hit some deep balls.
The problem is much more likely mechanics. Young guy panic. An unwillingness / inability to throw it high and let guys run under it. That sort of thing.
A true Gunslinger cares less about INT's or they wouldn't be a Gunslinger! The more you sling the more you hit! Ask Favre.
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On 11/11/2019 at 9:51 AM, BillsBlue said:
Exactly how I feel about Josh and the deep ball he's just scared of throwing picks
Josh's picks came from pressure and just tossing the ball. He flat out is just gunning the ball and always has. He has time now to throw and isn't timing his passes properly. Before he would be running around then chuck it, probably around 4-5 seconds and it would get to the WR. Now he is going back 3 seconds and throwing. .25 or less in seconds but that time is needed for WR to get to the ball. Josh needs to time better, that is his job.
6 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:Josh Allen had a problem with the deep ball last year too...2 for 24, he just isnt accurate deep...simple
6 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:Josh Allen had a problem with the deep ball last year too...2 for 24, he just isnt accurate deep...simple
He only had Foster last year, Benjamin sucked and Zay just couldn't do it.
1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:The question is going for a contested catch/ high pointing a catch, not who has what percentage of catchable balls, I did not say anything about our QBS, and yes he needs to get better, that’s a given. But Williams can get a contested catch, of our receivers he is most likely the best at doing so. It’s his thing so to speak. Respectfully I think you may have missed my point.
Go Bills!!!
Also, your playing for the jump ball?
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15 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:
He's caught 84% of his targets despite 92% of them being catchable.
His drop rate is terrible, and yet you "trust" him?
That, coupled with the phony stats you posted in the OP, makes me doubt just about everything you're saying here
He is a rookie, has shown upside and far from the reason we lost 3 games. Get REAL! Our veteran Smith had two penalties and zero catches, how about Kroft. What TE are you going to throw too?
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15 minutes ago, klos63 said:
he's had 6 years to develop, he wasn't worth the time.
He's had 3 300 yard games in his career. In those 3 games, he's thrown 10 interceptions. Yes, he played well in college and in some preseason games. Basically against players that aren't NFL players. This team is Allens, he's not bad that he needs to be benched ,just needs to improve a lot
I wouldn't call it a bench. Other players come in and out and Josh starts but if he is off and throwing behind players in the 1st quarter why wouldn't you play someone else and talk to your player getting his head in the game. Josh is not Jim Kelly, it was obvious Kelly had the stuff, even when he was throwing 25-30 INT's. Obvious Josh is talented but he is far from a franchise guy at this moment.
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13 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
I blame the new math. In what universe is 56.77% equal to three to one? We're 10th highest in the league in run percentage.
We had 14 run plays 40 pass, Josh ran on 4 of those. I would say we are a passing team, not 50/50
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3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:
You would trust Knox? To do what?
His drop rate is 16.1%, which is atrocious.
https://www.rotowire.com/football/player.php?id=13466
Are you purposely putting out misinformation here?
Knox has our one big play, caught it 20 yards and took it over 50 bowling people over. That means he has caught it 84% of the time, let that be 20 yards down the field.
16 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:The question is going for a contested catch/ high pointing a catch, not who has what percentage of catchable balls, I did not say anything about our QBS, and yes he needs to get better, that’s a given. But Williams can get a contested catch, of our receivers he is most likely the best at doing so. It’s his thing so to speak. Respectfully I think you may have missed my point.
Go Bills!!!
How can he catch a ball when he can't even get on the field. Had one good game then missing next game and hurt. If that is your answer we are in trouble. I like the kids upside but most of that was in the CFL!
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2 hours ago, klos63 said:
So one good game in about 6 years of being on a roster... against one of the worst teams in the league.
He has had more than one. He was very good at USC, play 4 years, two very good. Almost a projected 1st round player his JR year. He has been a backup, so was Fitz but Barkley has more upside. He played well for Chicago in 2016 had a few 300+ games. Yes he had that Jets game. That is why he is a backup, not enough NFL game tape. But he has shown he can move the Bills in Preseason, often is more consistent then Josh. He isn't a franchise QB but could come in for a quarter if Josh starts bad. I would always go back to Josh but maybe Barkley can help and give Josh a quarter to settle down. If OC tells Josh he is the man, stand next to me and figure out what can beat this team, then send him back in. Right now we are not getting 4 quarters of good football from Josh, he needs some help!
11 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said:pretty sure he hits on the right yardages when they do it in practice so it seems he gets a case of adrenaline arm in game situations. ..just needs more reps and it will happen (I hope )
Teach him 1st to throw to yard markers, the touch comes later. 5 step drop fire 40 yards here. Let WR get there.
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2 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:
Most of us were skeptical about an underperforming Mountain West QB becoming a franchise QB at the most difficult level of football. Every stat that was pulled suggested he‘d be an NFL bust, I remember one had the likelihood at 81%! While I wouldn’t call him a bust, I don’t think he’ll ever be anything more than an average or slightly above average QB. All the traits required to be an elite signal caller - timing, touch, anticipation, accuracy, field vision - he struggles at every single one. Asking and/or expecting him to make giant leaps of improvement in those areas is probably unfair to him. He is what he is and what he is isn’t good enough.
He already is better than average, this is not his fault. OC is all over the place and isn't reining him in. Josh should call the play called and not be changing it. Read his progressions till he has enough experience. The QB doesn't have a 300 yard game yet. But he has 7 comeback wins. The best QB rating in the 4th quarter. He is inconsistent but far from being a BUST. That said, I am not into wasting a 6-3 record. If Josh is off then let him watch Barkley for a quarter, see if that works. you can talk to him on the sidelines and show him the defense. Maybe Barkley starts the 1st quarter, lets Josh settle. Also start teaching to throw long on 1st down or 2nd and short. Don't go 60 yards down field, try 40, then 50, then 60. Time it so he throws to a spot the receiver runs to. Josh can't hit a player with touch yet that far on the fly. Mostly Josh should be playing play action and on the move by plan so o-line knows where he is. Best plays are coming from there.
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2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:
Only one, his name is Duke Williams...
Go Bills!!!
That is absurd, Brown has 9 games with 50 plus yards, 1st time in Bills history. The problem is Josh is inconsistent with throws and can't go long right now. Beasley and Brow catch 90% of what is catch-able. Knox I would trust too. Singletary is a playmaker in the open field. Right now I think OC #1 problem, O-line #2 and Josh#3. We only lost one game bad.
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4 hours ago, CheshireCT said:
definitely no explanation for that. I was just as baffled as you in those instances. How many times has that happened? Anyone count?Since he can't hit them, not even close , then they should be going with players like Knox that can take a 10-20 yard and turn upfield. The Long play doesn't have to go 30-6- yards in the air, Josh isn't ready for that nor are the WR's. Josh would best be served with play action, rollouts, etc.. Once in awhile go No Huddle.
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2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:
That's a long winded way of saying yes. Relax, step back and consider for a second whether this one could be closer to the truth. Would that be a bad thing? Provide your work if you're that entrenched.
I actually don't need the stats, I know what my eyes see. Though I am 54 years old with progressive tri-focals, LMAO!
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Have to score more points, REALLY! Didn't mean to Huddle, REALLY! Need to get the ball into the hands of playmakers, so 3rd and 3 your playmaker was Beasley long, REALLY! Your glad players can admit when they make bad plays, that seems too be happening allot, REALLY!
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3 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:
reads for every play based on matchups
Full Video:
You don't get better if you can't admit you were wrong. This guy is over his head!
5 minutes ago, Bangarang said:Daboll basically just admitted that all defenses need to do is stack the box and make Allen beat them with his arm. How encouraging
Good running backs say stack everyone, you miss me I am going to town!!!!!!!!
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4 minutes ago, london_bills said:
But your talking like they have to accept that he will get it. They don't have to accept that he will get it. You continually evaluate, that's what you do. They cannot be scared of their perception.
Is it a difficult situation for Beane to draft another QB? Sure. There would be alot of questions.
'Josh has shown enough growth'.
No, not for me.
But what I think won't ultimately matter. Let's say Beane thinks that Allen may not be the guy - he will be bringing someone in to compete. It depends on whether the pegulas want to define beanes career by Allen. In the same way that Allen should get more time, should Beane not be allowed to miss on a project QB?
Draft a guy 3rd and compete next year with Barkley. Unless you can get a Burr or better, this was Beane's hand.
5 minutes ago, london_bills said:But your talking like they have to accept that he will get it. They don't have to accept that he will get it. You continually evaluate, that's what you do. They cannot be scared of their perception.
Is it a difficult situation for Beane to draft another QB? Sure. There would be alot of questions.
'Josh has shown enough growth'.
No, not for me.
But what I think won't ultimately matter. Let's say Beane thinks that Allen may not be the guy - he will be bringing someone in to compete. It depends on whether the pegulas want to define beanes career by Allen. In the same way that Allen should get more time, should Beane not be allowed to miss on a project QB?
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6 minutes ago, jrober38 said:His deep balls often miss the receiver by 10 yards.
In all seriousness I remember watching highlights from his pro day, and people were blown away by the arm and the fact he can throw it 80 yards, and I was watching it and he was throwing incomplete passes that his receivers couldn't get to.
That hasn't changed one bit since he got to Buffalo.
At least not enough to say it is NOT a problem.
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Kelly was a Gun slinger and lucky to be 60%. Difference is he hit the long pass allot. There are other differences, some to Josh's advantage. Allot of Josh's passes are off hands. Reed and Lofton caught those. Not all Josh but zero percent on 12 30+ in the air passes this year is terrible.
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Just now, jrober38 said:
By mostly throwing check downs within a few yards of the LOS.
Completion percentage has little to do with whether or not he's an accurate passer.
He definitely is not accurate long, lol! You know it is a bad throw when people are guessing you threw it away!
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Just now, jrober38 said:
You can't teach accuracy.
Josh has been a 60%+ accuracy QB this year.
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Just now, machine gun kelly said:
Agreed Gugny. They are committed to Allen’s development, and will stick with him to gain the experience. Like it or not he’s starting unless he gets injured.
Then change QB coach or OC. These 10 yard overthrows is on someone. Throwing on 3-3 long to Beasley is on someone.
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1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said:
So, you're right, the author is wrong. Got it.
Not my stats, got them from Mariora D&C, Wikopedia and CBS Sports. I just counted off where they were.
Just now, london_bills said:Wait the 8 games remaining. Then it will be 26 games. That will give a decent idea. Draft a QB in the second or so.
I like Josh, I just see a opportunity for a few more wins. Personally I would tell OC to run the football even with pass and play action Josh. Stop throwing long.
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2 minutes ago, london_bills said:
Come on maaaaan!
You can do better then that.
That's about the only one he's hit, LAST season. If ever there's is a time for a smiley face it is now ?.
Not much out there, lol. Camp retreads.
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5 minutes ago, london_bills said:
Allen is not hitting those deeper balls like Tyrod here you are right.
https://www.buffalobills.com/video/can-t-miss-play-allen-floats-deep-ball-to-foster-for-huge-td
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1 minute ago, Cripple Creek said:
There is one table that breaks down 31+ yards. Check it out and then let me know where I said I was satisfied with Allen's deep ball.
You gave the table, I gave my feedback for allot of quotes on this thread. I said Josh was 3 of 36 fro over 30 yards in air, less than 10%. Just clarifying that table.
Stephon Gilmore seems to think covering new Bills WR Stefon Diggs will be 'light work'
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Gilmore should say this, good for his team and the league. The reality is now The Patriots have to cover 3 great WR's, Knox and Singletary. If they pressure Allen up the middle now they have Allen on the run. The Patriots haven't dominated Buffalo last two years so without Brady now the Patriots have to contain Buffalo's offense. We will see but if Allen himself improves the long ball passing the answer to this is NO!