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kinds of just running this in circles. at the outset from beanes presser - i was all in on WR /weapon for first round. as more time has passed. I dont care about position anymore. beane just has to get it right. WE need 2 impact players this draft and 2 impact players next draft to get to super bowl in 2 years. were not getting there next year (our schedule is BRUTAL). von wont be fully healthy/ too late in season. and we just have too many darn holes. time to reset the expectations

if he turns out to be ALL pro.... its a crap shoot. if the value is there - i can get behind spencer brown and tommy doyle coming in as extra OT in jumbo and playing swing tackles.

prob is the good teams will just pound the ROCK if hes on the field. SEE @ jets game. Oh my god they pounded Buff D like a piece of meat for that final game winning drive. or even the last two drives.

thats this regimes biggest weakness. they target pre draft who they love. and they dont stray. even after 2-3 years of abysmal play (see cody ford). theyre far too married too their players. need to be harsh/cut throat. move on. shrewd

And that’s just more a story of how sorry our DL is. Shaq was about on his way out of the league…. Coming from jets. Discarded by Mia. Discarded by jets. Good ole beane called him up

I thot Taiwan and siran played horribly this year on ST. they weren’t doing anything blocking the opposing gunners on PR. I believe Taiwan also got caught touching a punt in a pats game. It was egregious and as gunners they made some plays , but whiffed a lot on coverage get rid of them

Yea good bye comp pick for edmunds

Yeaaaaaaa who’s playing DL this year ? it’s Oliver , settle , and DQ. And a bunch of fringe roster guys AjE , groot, boogie , and a bunch of fringe roster guys ( Kingsley , Mike love ect) are we signing an Ingram , Dunlap , jjp?

So, I’m all on the everything must go to the offense this year - train BUT who’s playing DL this year ? it’s Oliver , settle , and DQ. And a bunch of fringe roster guys AjE , groot, boogie , and a bunch of fringe roster guys ( Kingsley , Mike love ect) they have Von as LB on bills site but can’t count on his return until really late one of three things have to happen : 1) we are COMPLETELY changing our scheme / style on D 2) we are rolling w fringe guys and DRAFTING SOME PPL this year 3) we are signing an Ingram , Dunlap , jjp ?

So, I’m all on the everything must go to the offense this year - train BUT who’s playing DL this year ? it’s Oliver , settle , and DQ. And a bunch of fringe roster guys AjE , groot, boogie , and a bunch of fringe roster guys ( Kingsley , Mike love ect) they have Von as LB on bills site but can’t count on his return until really late one of three things have to happen : 1) we are COMPLETELY changing our scheme / style on D 2) we are rolling w fringe guys and DRAFTING SOME PPL this year 3) we are signing an Ingram , Dunlap , jjp ?

Good find. Say good bye siran wrap

Hahahaha I knew this thread was coming back! Ughhh. OBJ please go away dude. Or just sign somewhere

Agreed. market bears the truth. As painful as it may be to players, teams and fans. I think he’s prob 15-25Th best. W Hyde he CAN have top 10 and even top 5 seasons.

Did you see my reply? Prob not. Troll Not cherry picked. Just off the top of my head. I love how the board instantly gets triggered with posts that don’t align with theirs. after , god forbid , stepping away for 24 hours and just now seeing poyer contract details yea - it’s a great deal for bills. 2.5+ million base guaranteed salary this year. That’s exactly the player who I think / and he actually is.

Meaningless stat. Bills play zone. You have no idea where the team D funnels throws. Which we all know now. 2022 was the year that Dane Jackson got thrown against and every underneath LB zone possible. Keep trying tho. I appreciate it and I don’t care about the regular season. I care about the playoffs and winning the Super Bowl. He’s not good enough against cincy / kc - barely against Mia. go rewatch kc cincy playoff game. Rookie after rookie kc DB made plays against cincy WRs….. have to let old pricey vets walk and have young guys produce !

Yea I mean it was REAL shhit / atypical off-field and on field tragedies. diggs did just force his way/ had to prove who he said he was thru security into the UCincy hospital after the game to be bedside tho.

Yea but stafford and that OL titans- lol pit - lol mia - L but I hear you. BAD elbow injury from what I heard in camp. Broken ribs. Didn’t he have meniscal tear too. there’s a diff bw voted for all pro and truly being all pro (Ed reed , rod woodson) elite athletes / ball hawks. Poyer has outperformed by leaps and miles and is a diamond in the rough hit signing. But I never thought of him as dominant player at his posing. He and Hyde are better tandem than individuals

Ahh nice thanks. Literally hadn’t seen it Think it’s a fair deal for both sides. Poyer never was gonna get 11-12 (maybe after his all pro year on reputation only). But the injuries this year and he just looks less athletic to me / age never gonna get that.

We are NOT better than kc. Even fully healthy. there’s a diff bw winning in week 5. And then at end of year and playoffs / championships

Weird. (Not weird I’m sure it’s low / and poyer and his agent prob don’t it publicized ). We don’t have the $ value yet. oh I’m not surprised. This regime falls in love with their “process” guys too much. This was the year to shed old vets and $. Get more picks over the next two years for a legit run. Kc has 12! 12! Picks.

Again. I’m going to go back to beanes end of year presser. You could sense / it was a completely diff tone /vibe he gave off : Writing was on the wall. The Super Bowl window run was :13 kc. They got hot at the right time w Allen and daboll. And mcdermott / Frazier defense and special teams choked it away last year Von hurt and a lot of bad stuff happened. But they were going to lose to cincy even if Von played. I wasn’t expecting anything this FA. This is a talent acquisition business. He must HIT on the draft. And he must HIT on flyer / diamond in the rough players. so far McGovern and Harty are exactly the start to the latter process. Not signing edmunds was the RIGHT move. they better have a player in Bernard it’s gonna take this and next years draft AND to absolutely crush it and Allen has to ascend to mahommes mvp level. That’s it. There’s no secret here

Oh how quickly we forget / gloss over things bc we’re fan boys https://youtu.be/xqFzSIaSxP4 https://youtu.be/_qTufMaajOU (poyers fault) But I’ll give you. Had a good pff grade 75 prob is he just went through a murderers row of injuries this season. And at 33 he’s NOt going to be the same player

Yea I mean that’s a good point. And it also gets back to what I very eerily fear from this regime. they fall in love with their players way way way too much. Both in pre draft process. let’s be honest. They have been Mr trade up and take guys earlier than slotted (ford , edmunds, Bernard , Zay jones) And then in free agency. I thought you first had to have net lost players ? Then you the rd of pick you get is based on what you mentioned

Lol ok 4-20. Pretty much what he would have signed anyway.

Has the comp pick for edmunds shipped sailed ? we signed 3. Kyle Allen, McGovern , Harty we lost 2. Keenum and edmunds. who the eff is left to lose 2 more ? Only one that may be signed is Singletary….. we keep signing our own trash. Poyer (sorry he’s washed athletically and it was time to let him go- you gotta move benford or just have the jets PS guy from nyj develop). Dane Jackson. All the special teams guys. I bet none of those guys would have been signed. our team is a bunch of jags