[Bills reportedly interested in Jamaal Williams]

For the BILLS i dont think it matters much who the RB is but Jamaal could work. I get the appeal of the bigger names but prioritizing the o-line would be where i'd spend if i were gm. Teams like the Chiefs or Eagles or heck, any team with a good offensive line, all seem to be able to plug & play rb's & have success.

 

A King Henry would be great but could we even block for him?

The game is won & lost in the trenches & it all starts there, so thats where i would too. And not just depth guys but seriously attempt to build the best o-line in football.

Which also has an added benefit of protecting your highest paid player on the team, Josh Allen. Who when given the time can carve a defense up.

 

You couldn't do it in 1 offseason but with a plan in place to build the line piece by piece... over a few years you figure you should be on your way, no?

 

 

 

[Bills have shown interest in Lavonte David.]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am not arguing for them to throw big assets at safety. But the end of the Jordan and Micah combo this year was a classic case of don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.

Idk, we knew what we had didn't we? Thats why we paid them back then & thought of them as the best safety tandem in the league right? The 2 of them worked together like hand in glove & you didnt have to worry about much when they were out there together on the field. Surely a dropoff was to be expected when you lose 1 or both of them?

But them being gone last season is part of the reasoning to move on. Availability is the best ability & Hyde was out the whole year injured & Poyer missed another 4 weeks.

Their availability as they age will not improve... it likely should only get worse. Spending top dollar on 2 safeties past 30 isn't my ideal way to allocate limited resources. All that being said i'd like 1 more year to run it back if Poyer would take it, since on the surface we're so close to the SB & have many other positions to focus on. Otherwise i say move on

[[Misleading Title]]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

 

was hoping your thread was about Matakevich & you didn't disappoint!

Thank you

[McDermott wants a ‘nastier edge’ to his Defense post Frazier]

On 3/2/2023 at 9:29 AM, PBF81 said:

Otherwise, he's had 6 seasons now to install his version of whatever it is he wants.

Its an interesting conundrum in that on 1 hand our team has gone from nope to hope under his time with us & his Defense has consistently been ranked near the top. So you gotta give the guy credit regardless of anything else imho.

However if you had to pick 1 teams defense to play in a big game or get that big stop, you wouldn't pick ours, at least I wouldnt. So you want changes but not too many.

But you make a compelling point in that its been 6 years & the issues we're facing today are almost existential & similar to what a new coach would be walking into with so many question marks everywhere. We're talking about revamping our entire dline... again, new MLB, new safeties, moving cbs to safety, new coordinator. All things you wouldn't really expect in year 6 of a superbowl run. Dont even get me started on the offense lol. But it has to be seen as an indictment of past decisions gone wrong.

 

Much has been said about the draft picks on both sides of the ball & the lack of production gained from those guys.  Those misses place more of an emphasis & burden on Allen. For not just what he has to do out there, but like as you said: how lucky we are that he turned into the Josh named Allen & not Rosen, because then we'd be more like the Jets these past few years instead of the BILLS, & we'd all be singing a different tune.

 

Going forward i hope Beane brings in an outside DC vs letting Sean handle both duties. I want Sean's complete focus on being a HC. As he's still a young one & thats where his focus should be. Some outside perspective cant hurt either, some fresh eyes & ideas, as whatever we've done in the past hasn't been the answer. Doing the same thing & expecting different results is crazy. But of course i expect Sean to handle them or we hire from within to replace Leslie.

GO BILLS

[Bills Mafia won something this year. Highest blood alcohol level]

4 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:

seriously.... there is no way as a whole they could prove or deny these numbers... they maybe asked what 1000 people what they think there alc. content was? this is so beyond stupid....

Yeah, if they had asked the police for each city: "what is the average BAC of those you arrested at the games", at least there'd be a scientific approach to this calculation as opposed to random correspondents.

 

Also on twitter today was how our wr's led the league in dropped passes.

I mention it because its one of the reasons why we drink so much.

Outsiders think its because we love to party (which we do), but you try living thru 17 seasons of no playoffs & go to the games... alcohol was all we had sometimes lol.

[Stadium Renderings Part 2]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I still can’t believe we’re building a new stadium and it won’t have a roof. It makes absolutely no sense.

 

I’ll repeat it every game I go to also. Just stupid.

decades of studies about potential new stadiums & in the end we spent billions on a smaller stadium next to the old one. How can we not be excited about that?

You say roof, can point to other stadiums that have it, they'll tell you why YOU can't have it & of course everyone in Buffalo should just be happy about it, as its better than nothing. Yes the mindset of mediocrity!

The exterior looks better than i envisioned but the interior looks ghastly to me. Almost like a sardine tin that someone tore the roof off of.

But I suppose I shouldn't care too much. With the increased ticket prices i likely wont be able to afford to take my family to the games anyways

[Looks like Poyer is more than willing to leave and play for Miami of all places.]

BILLS made their choice of extending Hyde vs Poyer. Now Poyer walks because i can't see us paying top dollar to 2 safeties over 30.

If he goes to Miami then so be it. But can you imagine if Miami picks up Bobby Wagner too? What a boost that defense could have.

[Chad Johnson says he lived in Bengals' stadium for two years]

Would be an interesting idea to have dorm style housing provided as an option for new players, rookies.  Could help them in the transition of getting acquainted to the area & team. Idk how many would take it up as an option, but could be a good way to foster team cohesion & envelope rookies in the playbook & training.

Idk if any team has attempted something like this in the past. I know when players get traded they often have housing issues & will get put up in hotels or condos. Having a home base could eliminate that issue.

 

And it'd be cool to have say 7 BILLS picked to live in a loft and have their lives taped, to find out what happens when people stop being polite… and start getting real. (Sorry couldnt resist)

[Keenan Allen could be a cap casualty according to reports]

We definitely need to bring in more weapons for Josh but no on Keenan Allen. He commands too high a cap number for what we can expect from an oft-injured 30 year old wr, and in relation to our other team needs. I also dont like paying out big contracts to players over 30. We have a few players in that situation & I'd rather we get someone younger personally. Especially at positions where speed is important & youth is available elsewhere.

A team that commits big money to older players ends up being handcuffed by those contracts. We're seeing it already with our present cap situation.

 

Jakobi Meyers could work, DJ Chark or even Marquise Goodwin can be had cheap & both have speed.

If people are set on Keenan, i'd offer Marvin Jones Jr for a fraction of the cost. Not the potential upside of Keenan but relatively comparable wrs & production.

Keenan might work out on Madden but i dont know how we can address all our needs while acquiring him.

 

[How many chances will McDermott get?]

11 minutes ago, HomeTeam said:

The same questions were said about Andy Reid before he got over the hump. 

 

I know everyone is upset but in my opinion that would be a mistake at this moment. He still has a lot of leeway from me but some changes do need to be made.  

And for all the love for Andy Reid, he's still only won 1 title & that was with Mahomes in 2019.

Guess he sucks!

[Now I'm getting mad - Burrow vs. Allen & Buffalo Bills talk]

2 minutes ago, Robert Paulson said:

just more motivation for Josh to prove them wrong. i think he comes out as playoff Josh from last year-focused, taking what their given, driven

 

The Terminator

that would be a nice welcome development for sure, that all of us would love to see & have been hoping for all year. No better time than this Sunday.

Dorsey can help try to make this happen as well of course by designing some early plays that help get Josh into a rhythm & not having to play behind on down & distance. Something that i havent seen as much of this 2nd half of the season that i'd like

[How confident are you the Bills beat the Bengals?]

A poll mightve been a good option!

But i'm not as confident as i'd like to be. Yes we've been winning games but i haven't seen Championship level football, have you guys?

We saw it for the 1st quarter vs Miami, then well we saw the rest of that game lol.

I just don't see a confident team right now.

Nor do i see a team thats progressing or improving as the games increase in importance.

I see an offense struggling for balance & consistency. I see a QB whose reverted back to his old rookie self a little too much. And i see self-inflicted mistakes across the board that will be the end of us one of these days.

You gotta BILLIEVE but its gonna take them playing as close to a mistake free game as possible for them to win. A feat we haven't managed in idk how long.

[Continuing yards after catch (YAC) mystery]

the screen game has been an issue for this offense since day 1 of Josh being the QB.

At 1st it seemed like an arm issue, where Josh had difficulty with the trajectory & speed of the screen passes themselves, where they'd routinely get blown up or the blocking would be messed up.

As time has gone on there has been an improvement, like last season there was a conscious effort to integrate more screens into our gameplan.

This year they're non-existent. You have problems with pass blocking? Run some screens. You want some easy YAC yards? Run some screens.

Its been a pet peeve of mine for the past few years. Suppose it ties in with what plagues the offense sometimes as well, where we dont take enough of the easy underneath stuff.

[Should another relocation cause the Bills to consider building a domed stadium? A Q&A with Bills COO]

1 hour ago, Limeaid said:

 

I have NEVER seen anyone from Tonowanda at the game.

And as a student who went to UB and walked through the snow they do sometimes get hit bad with snow.  In fact one year there was more snow on North Campus than my family's home in Steelton, Blasdell.

 

Some like being miserable and they want others to follow their lead.

well unless you checked everyones ID's at the gate week in week out, it'd be a challenge knowing where all 60k+ people came from. I know at least 10 people from Tonawanda who go to the games including myself, i wonder if you know us or just didnt see us those days?

 

Ive lived in kenmore the past 8 years. Think we had 1 storm in all that time that gave us a few feet, my relatives in OP & Hamburg?... it can be a few times a year. And we could get into the future forecast predicting the lakes staying warmer later into the season as being the norm to expect for the future, where the potential for stronger lake effect storms would be on the rise in the years/decades to come. But on average our snowfall amounts are a foot or 2 less per year total in comparison. If you're familiar with how lake effect works, you're aware of why the snow belt is where it is & that is where our new stadium will be built.

 

We had decades to study all the impacts of stadium locations to this region & in the end we chose to build a smaller one next to the old one. And i think it is a legitimate issue spending tax payer money building a stadium not suited for our team or our region. Like only we could be okay with that with our expectations so low, just happy anything is being done at all, everything else be darned. Thats pretty much the sense i get from everyone who supports it. Yeah we're not completely thrilled with it but at least its something & the team will stay here... just be happy!

[Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)]

On 11/12/2022 at 11:55 AM, Straight Hucklebuck said:

If the Bills don’t run the ball more, I don’t expect to see the corresponding uptick in our pass catchers taking the load off Allen, or Diggs. 
 

All WGR hosts are completely against any increase in running the ball, because they equate that with the Drought Bills. 
 

Of course they are relevant because of Josh Allen and the pass game, and you don’t want the Bills to become the 2022 Chargers with Herbert checking down constantly. 
 

I just think they could afford to add a bit more conventional offense into their play selection. A few less hits on Allen (he got throttled near the goal

line against Green Bay). 
 

Stick with the run, like I said 11-13 carries for Singletary and 7-8 for Cook, using Shakir over the middle, moving Dawson Knox around some more, and maybe some play action.

 

The Jets game was Miami Part II. Allen running around, real and perceived pressure, a lot of gunning, nothing easy. 
 

I think the Bills have always been Allen dependent, and that has shifted to Diggs dependent as well the last two games. 
 

 

it all seems so simple when u put it like that

But yeah agree with everything youve said. I'll add that defenses can cheat towards defending Allen & the pass if they know thats what we're gonna do 70% of the time. And our percentage of passing plays has actually increased from last season & we're running the ball even less. If you were an OC analyzing last years performance & shortcomings, would you say we needed to pass even more as your big lesson learned from last year? We even have the benefit of hindsight, being able to learn from our previous season's shortcomings.... to only just repeat the same mistakes of the past? Its maddening haha.

 

But we're even worse than the past bcuz Knox has all but disappeared & we dont have our slot wr worked out yet & on the outside Davis is here for a game & invisible for 2 after. And forget even questioning the wisdom of giving Knox that big contract extension... as if there was a pressing need to throw money at him before another team swept him up from us. We're just not maximizing our potential with the current assets we have. We're not getting the most out of our personnel & that is a bit concerning from a coaching perspective.

Winning does make everything better however. If we had won last game out we'd be less critical but all we have to work from & evaluate are the things we see.

All that said we lost two 1 score games to teams with winning records, sky isnt falling yet but its getting cloudy... GO BILLS

[Bills release new stadium renderings]

9 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

As others have said, in Munich, they actually get very little snowfall. It is rare for more than a couple inches to fall at a time. 

The type of roof/canopy that can be put on a Stadium in Munich is totally different than what would be required to support snow and ice in Orchard Park.

yeah we just don't have the technology to build a roof able to withstand snow.... sorry... "partial" roof.

In 2022... just can't do it yet. 🤣

But after decades of time where we have asked the question: 'what if we could build another stadium'... we finally have our opportunity to take all that we have learned & build a new stadium & what do we come up with?

We build an even smaller stadium right next to the old one. That pretty much sums up the bar to pass around here lol. An opportunity to do something big or beneficial for this community & region & we line up at the trough like pigs hungry to eat up the bs they feed us because we're what, just happy the team is staying?

Some will defend these designs to the death. Others like myself feel from the very start strategically speaking we already have failed. In size, scale, location, in its ability to generate revenue & pay back its costs outside of a handful of games each year? To being designed with the local weather in mind. One could literally go on & on with this failure of imagination & planning & process.

This whole thing is a big crock of bs imho, something only we would **** up to this degree.

[Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

So, when it comes to Cook, I’m supposed to trust that there’s a good reason to be bringing him along slowly?  I’m more of the mindset that they’ve just mishandled him so far. 

Could also be a combination of the 2. There's good reason to bring him along slowly. We also know we're not immune from mishandling players & game situations & new stadiums & just about anything.

For me, i've seen enough thats positive out of Devin's game & Cook's that we need to see more of a commitment to both. Singletary doesnt need to be brought along slowly, whats the excuse for him? Is a 4.4 ypc average just not good enough to cut it in the NFL?

[An honest question...]

3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Disagree 2,3,4. Can maybe see a case for 1,5. But the only one I'll solidly agree on is tre white 

I'm not saying i disagree bcuz we know how good a player Tre is.

But we've literally replaced his play with 2 rookie cb's in week 1, so we evidently can replace him & still be okay

[4-2-5 Alignment]

15 minutes ago, HoofHearted said:

Buffalos defense has allowed an average of 10.1 points in the 1st half of games which ranks 12th in the league. They’ve allowed an average of 3.9 in the second half which ranks 1st in the league. If that’s not being able to make adjustments then I don’t know what else to tell you.

Ah so you think our coaching staff is great at making adjustments then & theres nothing to improve? Well i admire your perception of things.

To me correlation is not causation.  We have countless examples discussed in these forums from the past couple seasons where we're not switching things up.  We have glaring examples from just the past couple games... today even. If u cant see that then i dont know what to tell you either lol.

 

The saving grace is we have a superstar QB & playmakers who can usually make enough plays to get a win, on both sides of the ball. But when defenses shut down Josh & u dont adjust thats an issue. If you're playing a 2nd year JETS QB coming off a meltdown vs the Pats, who isnt very threatening as a passer, perhaps you shouldnt be playing nickel all day, especially on critical drives when theyve ran 8 times in a row & you're having trouble stopping it. That seems like a good time to change it up just a little no?

 

Statistically our defense is great. But if you had 1 play where you needed your defense to step up & make a stop, would you pick ours as that defense? Last year obviously that was a no. Von Miller changed that equation a bit. Not today tho.... we just couldnt stop the run & didnt seem overly concerned about adjusting to do so either.

[4-2-5 Alignment]

I understand our philosophy & its successful when executed well. I'm more concerned about the lack of in-game adjustments.

We're slow to adjust game in/game out & its a bit of a headscratcher, and on both sides of the ball.

I'd think that the best coaches constantly adapt to the changing environment, not only to the plays themselves on the field but to the players as well.

Much has been said about Sean McVay & his halftime adjustments.

Our coaches are constantly panned as being some of the best too.

They deserve a lot of credit, but a lot of criticism as well.

Its time to see some of that top tier coaching & not just rely on Josh pulling the W out of his arse every week. Dude cant do it alone

[NFL Week #9 - 11/6/2022 - The Bills at the (NJ) Jets - 2nd half gameday thread]

Just now, Governor said:

I think he got a shoulder injury a few weeks ago.

wondering the same thing

[Allen’s QBR last night was 83.6]

From Josh's very first throw i thought maybe he was nervous or over-excited about playing vs 1 of his childhood idols in Rodgers.

We've seen it before from him, where he's so amped up to play that it takes a series or 2 for him to settle down & collect himself (for lack of a better word).

 

I'm not gonna presume i know anything about what Josh's issues were last night. I really want to watch the All-21. But the bar he's set for QB play has been set so high, anything less than 300 3tds feels like an off performance. It was still a solid game by anyones standards & we got the dub. I'm good with that

[NFC better than AFC at the top]

23 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

They also lost to the Ravens 19-17 on Sunday Night Football when their offense looked completely lost. People here in Cincinnati wanted Zach Taylor's head on a platter after that one. They're not a roll They just started playing bad teams. They have looked really good in the last game, but that was against the Falcons who have a lot of injuries in a secondary that wasn't good to begin with. Burrow puts up monster stats against bad teams and looks lost when he plays good defenses. Their offense is 80% 50/50 balls to Chase and Higgins (mostly Chase) on the perimeter. When teams take that away. Burrow holds the ball and takes sacks.  They have no plan B.

their inability to improve their offensive line play & not only protect Burrow but also open up running lanes for Mixon has been an issue from an outsider like myself. It has improved as the season has gone on, (they're not giving up 6-7 sacks anymore). But its almost as if Cinci treats Burrow like he's a Josh Allen & can do everything himself. Boyd's been dinged up a bit, Higgins & now Chase too. Cinci can't really afford for any of these 3 to miss time. If they find a way to get Mixon rolling that'll help them out immensely

[FiOS NOT carrying CBS?? Therefore NO Bills Game Broadcast!!!]

i'll do what i do every week, stream the game over the internet

 

if anyone needs any help in this regard pm me

GO BILLS

[Trade Deadline (Nov 1) Bills Rumors / Speculation]

On paper or in the Madden video game, CMC or Saquon make a ton of sense. But in the real world i can't see making a commitment to 2 oft-injured RB's in a blockbuster trade, mortgaging high draft picks on them before the trade deadline. I just dont think its the answer here. We havent even made a commitment to run with the rb's we have now when its been successful. I'd rather spend the draft capital on shoring up our oline & drafting a rb on a cost controlled deal who can be the guy going forward.