Utah John
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I could kinda sorta get behind this trade if it came with a pick in this year's draft, when there are all those good receivers to be had. But not until next year? Boy this year is going to be a struggle.
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31 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
Actually he went to Division III Albany State.
Actually, I went there. So he'd be my pick out of alma mater loyalty.
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I haven't seen any of the Josh hate you referred to, but last season was not a good one for Josh. True, he had some great games, particularly late in the season, but early on, he had some real stinkers. Since the Bills were on national TV so often, people saw those early games and put Josh into the reject category, and there he stayed the rest of the season despite his great play later.
As others have said, he needs to be more consistent when the plays are there to be made, and still be the wrecking ball we know he can be, when the situation calls for it.
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53 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
Im good with it …Singletary getting paid $5m + now … no way he sees that here
Singletary played well for the Texans but not so well that they kept him around. He's with the Jersey Giants now.
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9 hours ago, DapperCam said:
I wonder if it was because of his injury, or he saw the writing on the wall that he wasn’t going to crack the roster.
Yes to both. I'm sure his family encouraged him to retire. Nothing left to prove, and he should have made enough money to support his family for many years.
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Considering all the personnel losses on both the Bills and the Dolphins, I think the Bills still shape up as the better of the two. But the Jets seem to be doing the right things to build up their roster, so I would rate the chances of the Bills winning the AFCE at 80%. Not a sure thing, but very likely.
But getting to the SB with all these key losses? Not likely at all. Right now I'd guess the Ravens, Texans, Bengals and oh yeah the Chiefs all look better, overall.
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19 hours ago, Don Otreply said:
How huge is it?
That's what SHE asked.
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I understand his parents had to be a little careful about choosing his first name. They're on thin ice with the choice they made, but at least they didn't go with Richard. Dick Clapp would have been unbearable.
45 minutes ago, Beck Water said:I mean, maybe? and guys can develop since the draft, or have a bad day at the draft.
But Bates had an RAS of 9.57. According to Joe Marino (linked above by @Watching since 1964), Clapp has an RAS of 3.74 which is.....not good.
Until seen otherwise, I'm going to go with "We know Rick Bates. And Will Clapp is no Rick Bates".
Well, we got a draft pick for Bates and Clapp came for free (wrt the draft). Also it was pretty clear that Bates wanted a chance to start somewhere, so the Bills tried to help him out by trading him. In the long run, we might miss Bates, but by this point we already knew what Bates is and isn't. For sure he's not Wyatt Teller.
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Huge tackles are great if they're attacking you. Quick edge rushers can beat them by not getting attacked.
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I have assumed since the Morse release that this is what Beane's plan is. I think (actually I hope) that Beane was just throwing a little shade on his plans with the McGovern talk.
A great center is a solid investment for a decade. WRs come and go much more quickly.
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During the video they showed the season records for all the AFL teams. The Bills had the best followed by Boston. San Diego did not have an outstanding record, and should not have been a threat to the Bills. But the Chargers scored on four plays on their first possession and could have possibly won, if Stratton hadn't broken Lincoln's ribs with an absolutely perfect tackie.
The muddy field, the red striped shirts for the refs, the goal posts on the goal line, and none of the formations or disguised defenses we have today. It was really a different game.
Also the Bills defense was incredible. The front four all were great, Maguire and Tracy at LB, and ball-hawking DBs. What a team.
14 hours ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:Mike Stratton had a great game and Paul maguire certainly saved the day on special teams. Reminded me somewhat of some recent games where we should have been up a lot more. The penalties and missed INTs were tough. Go AFL Champions.
I don't think anyone tracked red zone proficiency back then, but the Bills sure didn't capitalize when they had the ball down close.
Cookie was a monster. It's a shame they traded him after this game, but the Bills still won in 65 without him.
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Reminds me of Thurman Thomas signing with the Dolphins for a season after he (and Bruce and Andre) were all cut on the same day. A little of it was spite and wounded pride, and more of it was a desire to show the league he still Had It (but he didn't). In Poyer's case, I think it's likely that his wife talked him into taking the Miami gig so she could work on her tan more months of the year. Plus the club scene.
Both players were outstanding Bills and should be thanked for their years of service. It will seem strange to see Poyer lining up in those party costume uniforms but I won't hold it against him.
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So Singletary and Moss are both getting paid. Good for them. I like Cook better but we have had some talent working for us.
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First of all Bowers won't be available when we pick, so no.
Second, there are too many other positions of need, so no.
Third, it would not be fair to DK1 or DK2 to make either of them sit and watch a rookie playing their position. Both DKs are really good, DK2 having the edge over DK1. So no.
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Tomlin has the remarkable achievement of never having a losing season which also means the Steelers never have a draft position to pick a great QB. Wilson is the wrong guy. He'll help the Steelers win enough games to avoid a great draft slot, but not to win enough games or be good enough overall to win in the playoffs.
Also this move will cause a QB controversy in Pittsburgh, never a good thing for team unity.
Since Denver is on the hook for all of Wilson's salary minus whatever he gets from his new team, it would have been great for some team with a clear #1 to sign Wilson to a backup contract. But Wilson doesn't want to be a backup. If he signed in Pittsburgh he must feel pretty sure he can beat out Pickett.
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He's worth it.
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I'm not convinced at all that the Bills will go with a guard playing center. They might draft one but I think it's more likely they'll sign a FA. Or that Morse comes back for a lower salary.
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Seems like a lot of teams are just tossing their safeties into a bucket, and then they'll grab a different one out of the bucket and pay him less than they were paying the guy they had before. League-wide collusion to drive down prices.
11 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:
There are literally five of these safeties hanging out in my back yard right now.
I don’t even know how to get rid of them.
“SHOO, GO AWAY. I DON’T HAVE ANY MONEY OR A JOB FOR YOU!”
You might THINK they're just hanging out, but just try running to your back fence and see how that goes.
14 hours ago, BillsVet said:Safety talent is to NFL football in the 2020s like HR is to a corporation. Even having good ones doesn't really matter that much.
I suspect you're wrong about that. Having a bad HR department can get your company sued. And I think we're gonna find out next year just how valuable Hyde and Poyer were to the overall structure of the defense.
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13 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
Hoe?
Why is he saying he is a gardening tool?
A somewhat obsolete term for a man who seduces multiple women, is a "rake". Maybe he's just confused about the tools in the shed.
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11 hours ago, RyanC883 said:
interesting. 1. wonder who picks him up. 2. wonder what Denver's thinking for its QB situation.
Denver is crashing. They gave up a ton for Wilson and can't return to success for a year or two. I think the reason for the release is that Wilson was still good enough for them to steal a couple of wins, and ruin their draft position in the years ahead.
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20 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
Guy was a solid dud before he fell off his ski-doo
He didn't fall off. He was sitting on it, not moving, and some doofus crashed into him.
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The Moss for Hines trade was a good one for both players and both teams. Moss is a good RB who never fit into Buffalo's schemes. The Colts use him in line with his skill set. So the trade isn't what was bad, it was drafting him in the first place without evaluating accurately whether he'd fit.
Hines looked great as a kick returner and showed flashes of quickness and power as an RB. I don't think the Bills need him very badly as a backup but if Cook goes down, Hines' speed could be very important until Cook returns.
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This is simply not the year to overspend on WRs. Some FAs will get big contracts but when it comes to FAs vs promising rookies, a lot of teams that need WR help will go with cheap rookies. There are too many good options in the draft.
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On 2/29/2024 at 7:20 AM, mannc said:
Keeps Pittman from going to KC, where he was rumored to be headed.
Still could happen.
Teams looking to upgrade at WR have to balance the cost of signing an experienced, productive, yet expensive FA, vs drafting one or two of this class's good-looking but cheap rookies. Considering the cap situation, I think the Bills have no choice but to go with the rookies, and maybe an overlooked and less-expensive veteran, and hope for the best.
As for Davis, does it really help the Bills if he signs an expensive FA contract elsewhere compared to him signing a less-expensive FA contract elsewhere? I thought the comp pick formula was based on the original draft position of the player. Is that incorrect?
Diggs trade aftermath...what this means for the offense, draft, other WR's still here...
in The Stadium Wall
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Absolutely not. We should never again use two first round picks for any player except Josh's eventual replacement, ten years from now. But what COULD happen is Beane using this year's first, and the 2025 second he got for Diggs, to move up. This would mean basically trading Diggs to select a better Diggs replacement than he would have received before the trade. But as the OP said it would take a lot of breaks from other teams to leave a top WR available in a spot Beane could reach.