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Why are Wood and Levitre not getting starting reps? Two possibilties:
a) These guys are a long ways off and aren't going to be our starters; or
b) The coaching staff wants to make them "earn" it, and its "just not the way things work in the NFL"
Lets all hope and pray option "a" is not reality.
If option "b" is correct, its not the best approach. If they are as physically gifted as we've been told, why not give them as much experience as possible prior to taking the field, since that is what they lack? Is watching second string players take a starters reps really more valuable than taking the reps themselves? No.
If these guys are the starters screw tradition, screw "hazing", screw politics, get our starters some reps and lets win some games.
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next week...
a beer delivery guy?
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i actually agree with our coaching strategy...
we should get our starters .... especially rookies... as few reps as possible
that way... they will be fresh when they take the field
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I don't know if there is a Bills Fan on earth who has been more critical of the Bills OL than I, but let me ask you this.....where should they have started to rebuild it?
Prototype OGs are getting progressively harder to find. This is a fact. The Bills got one (Levitre) who has played LT, and should be able to pass protect. Wood is a flat out beast or so it seems. Hangartner? Can he be worse than Fowler/Preston? I would have to see it to believe it.
Is there more work needed? Sure. I would like a blue chip LT in 2010, but can we give these new interior linemen a chance?
Where am I suggesting we don't give them a chance? People on here are so defensive about the lack of talent on this team. Please, pretty please, with a cherry on top...give them a chance! Get them on the goddamn field asap and get them as many goddamn reps as possible so that they DON'T look like rookies this season.
We are not "rebuilding". "Rebuilding" is where you keep the good parts, and throw out the bad. What we are doing is known as "sucking"....its where you let your talent walk in and out of a revolving door and plug the holes you make with new talent that needs training... so that you never get any better... (e.g. 7-9, 7-9, 7-9).
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He's also been in the NFL for about 6 YEARS LONGER THAN THE ROOKIES
Please do the world a favor and never pro-create.
I noticed you didn't attempt to provide yourself any substantive defense.
Does it suck being stupid?
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There's a lot of idiocy going around lately BB, but you're on a whole new level.
It's an OTA dude, the rookies have been on the field with the offense for a whole 3 weeks, and you're pissing in the box of cereal because the vets are getting more reps? Seriously? What a troll.
Also, it's worth noting that McKinney wasn't with the team last year, and Chambers is a G/T, so it would've been tough for them to start over Preston or Fowler, both of whom played center.
Wow, did I really just waste a full 90 seconds responding to this fool?
I'm not into name calling but if there ever were an opportunity...
this dude's excuse is that the rooks have only been "on the field with the offense for a whole three weeks..." in the next line this post states "it's worth noting that McKinney wasn't with the team last year..." which makes me wonder if he somehow covertly snuck in to work with our offense for a period greater than the last three weeks....
I'm picturing McKinney in all black, dangling from the ceiling from ropes, Tom Cruise Mission impossible, to get some extra reps prior to OTAs...
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Chris Brown Reports from OTAs:
"Veterans Kirk Chambers and Seth McKinney continue to hold down the starting roles at the two guard positions on the offensive line. Rookies Andy Levitre and Eric Wood are still being rotated in however, a good portion of the time. "
For those of you who think our Offensive line will be upgraded this year...here is a newsflash....These guys aren't even getting starting reps.
And oh by the way...Chambers and McKinney (who are currently starting over the kids) did not even start over Fowler and Preston last year... THAT'S how far off these guys are.
This is just sickening.
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I'd say his statement hints that he needs to go back to college and learn how them people talk good english
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He also said the Bills have a good offensive line, which makes we wonder if he really thought any of this through....
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For those of you still holding out hope that the ROLB position would not be downgrade because of a last minute free agent acquisition...
Pisa Tinoisamoa just signed a one year deal with the Bears.
ROLB = Ellison vs. Crowell = DOWNGRADE
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The Tinoisamoa of a couple of years ago is better than Ellison was last season. The Tinoisamoa of last season was actually worse. He's lost a bunch of weight and he's nowhere near as effective as he once was, which is the biggest reason he got punted outta St Louis.
Right, I'm sure our FO would agree with you.
They brought him in and offered him a contract so he could be Ellison's backup.
That makes sense.
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This is NOT a big deal.
We will just play a second stringer at this position...pretty stock move for the BB Front Office.
We've known about this hole since Crowell's release...(imagine how nasty our LB core had been if he had stayed)
Someone in the FO just realized that for the money we would have to pay Tisa pinamosa, we could have kept a guy who was pretty darn good, was familiar with the system, and had a pronouncable name.
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Keith Ellison, is not a starter in this league.....
except in Buffalo.
Glad we freed up all that cap space by not signing Peters....looks like it was well spent on a replacement Tacke and a ROLB...
someone shoot me
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Just saw this as well. He's right about them selling Vick to the fans. The Bills could sell dog sh-- for dinner and the fanbase would eat it right up.
correction:
The Bills do sell dog sh-- for dinner and the fanbase does eat it right up.
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Wait ... Buffalo has a weakness at Tackle? Wow, someone call the buffalo news.
Someone got paid to render that opinion?
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If he sucks....at least he'll be getting paid less than Denney and Kelsay,
(who we all know will suck)
Good move for the phins. Our Impotence in Free Agency Continues.
Levi Jones anyone?
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Peters cost us the Jets game.
Acutally, I felt that J.P. and Jauron cost us that game.
J.P. for trying to forward pass whilst being mauled and having no receivers around him
and Jauron for not knowing J.P. would do exactly that when he called the bootleg.
Not sure how Peters had anything to do with J.P. not just going down, taking the sack, letting the clock run, and winning the game.
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Maybe they would take Wood, Nelson, and $8M per year to go sign some other FAs.
I'm not sure I even know is being said here.
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We may want to consider trading for that Peters guy. He looks pretty good.
No doubt. I wonder if Philly would take two rookie interior linemen for him?
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Here are my grades:
08 O-Line: B
09 O-Line: C-
09 Frnt Offc: F- ... classified as having mental disabilities, and currently commuting via a short bus.
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Given that we were offensively near the bottom in nearly every category last year...and upgraded at one position...I have to disagree.
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Yeah, I admit I've been influenced by the articles since the draft. But what encourages me more than anything is that he grew up around the game. The PRO game. Can anyone say "DB version of Larry Fitzgerald?" If he already has a command of angles he won't have too much of a problem making the transition to FS. He's a natural ball hawk. And will be MORE of one given the freedom he'll have at FS; his more natural position. If, and it's a HUGE if, we can generate ANY type of pressure with a pass rush and force QBs to hurry a bit more, he's gonna be a force. I'm talking an ED REED type of force.
There, I said it. It's out there. We make QBs as uncomfortable as the Ravens do with their fronts, then we have the next Ed Reed at FS. Go ahead. Flame away. But it's the offseason, we are tied for 1st in the conference, and I'm tired of all the pee in my cornflakes around here.
GO BILLS!!!
Great! By the time he's an Ed Reed maybe we can get a late pick for him!
Go Bills Front Office!
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Actually, he was very good at opening holes in the run game, and dominant at times. The Bills ran very well to the left around left tackle. The second best in the entire league according to some serious statisticians who looked at every play on every team.
http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
The Bills struggled up the middle. And of course, you mentioned nothing about the running game at all when you decided if he gave up less sacks he would automatically be better. Those 11 sacks (which is an inflated number to begin with) were also about 2% of the plays he lined up on.
Put it this way, if you asked all 32 GMs, all 32 head coaches, all 32 OCs and all 32 OL coaches who would they honestly would rather have, Jason Peters or Langston Walker, I would be you anything that the result would be pretty close to, if not precisely, 128 for Peters and 0 for Walker. That's a downgrade.
THANK YOU. The GM comment is spot on. I believe you get the same result if you ask GMs about whether they would want Walker over Butler at RT. Same result as to Dockery.
Short answer is, anyone with two neurons to rub together knows we got worse on the O-line in 2009.
People here are struggling with that, because they don't want to believe it. They are arguing about whether these rookies will develop, but this misses the point. The thread is called upgrades/downgrades 2009. We downgraded our O-line this year, period. If you thought our o-line sucked last year, brace yourselves.
All that being said, I think we did a great job using the draft to fill the holes we created for ourselves in the offseason.
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Did you become a BB Fan 4 Life after the Bills signed Owens? Doesnt seem like you saw many Bills games last year.
Are you thinking of Jerry Jones? I know it gets hard following a guy like Owens around and making it appear you have been there since the begining. You should change your name to OwensBallWasher4Life it will make it easier for the rest of us.
No, actually I was thinking of Ralph Wilson in the early 90's...you remember...the decade we made the playoffs in?
How does what I said have anything to do with being a T.O. fan? Lets hope you don't read and write for a living. Fries with that?
The truth about Wood and Levitre
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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A well reasoned, and thought out substantive response, which proves exactly how smart you are.
Did I say they were mandatory? Didn't think so.
Did i say they weren't getting any reps? I think I said they weren't getting starting reps, which is true, right?
A well reasoned, and thought out substantive response, which again, proves exactly how smart you are.
What the hell are you trying to say here? 8th grade english level. Not comprehensible. No context. Not smart. F-
We've been "rebuilding" for over a decade...and gotten no better.
You = real dumb, and a real bad writer.