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  1. SIGN, SEAL AND DELIVERY ME VICK... ill be first in line with my 100 bucks for that jersey and ill also forgive ralph and buddy a.k.a. the good ole boys for forcing me to be ok with chan *fundamentals* gailey...when can i get my damn jersey??? and everyone sayin he sucks must have not seen him play... cuz i seen a guy defenses hated to play, a strong arm, pro bowler, beat legends at there field and got to the nfc championchip with no recievers..BUT HE SUCKS ha! slap yourself please...granted that was 3 years ago but sayin he sucked then is more retarded than buddy nix sayin he got 15 calls a day over the bills job....

  2. OFFENSE:

     

    QB: McNabb or Vick (Brandons "BIG" marketing move)

    TE1: Shawn Nelson

    TE2: Stupar

    RB: Fred Jackson

    WR1: Lee Evans

    WR2: Golden Tate (2nd round pick)

    SLOT WR: Steve Johnson

    LT: Anthony Davis (1st round pick)

    LG: Eric Wood

    C: Geoff Hangman

    RG: Andy Levitre

    RT: Brad Butler

    FB: McIntyre

     

    DEFENSE:

     

    CB1: McGee

    CB2: Florence

    Nickel: McKelvin

    Dime: Corner

    DE: Kyle Williams (assuming Schobel retires)

    DE: Chris Kelsay

    NT: Marcus Stroud

    SAM LB: Keith Ellison

    WILL LB: Kawika Mitchell

    JACK LB: Aaron Maybin (Hybrid LB/DE)

    MIKE LB: Poz

    SS: Donte Whitner / George Wilson

    FS: Jairus Byrd

     

    ST:

     

    K: Lindell

    P: Moorman

     

    Thoughts? :unsure:

     

     

    yea i can see that except i like derek fine more than stupar and i like VICK OR MCNABB (decent draft pick this year IF mcnabb)...NO NO NO HELLZ NO GOT DAMN :unsure: MIT to pennington or brohm or fitz id keep captain check down another year than those clowns...mcnabb and vick are 10x better than a fragile qb with a noodle arm(pennigton) a worthless 2rd rounder who couldnt make gb's practice squad (brohm) and a journeyman qb who cant throw more than 200 yards more than 2x a season (fitz)...so how in the hell are those 3 a stop gap i wouldnt let them teach me to blow my nose.. STOP GAP yea a stop gap from winning... :sick::huh:

  3. I like this game...here is my draft...assuming these players slipping a bit

     

    Rd 1: Ndamukong Suh DT

    Rd 2: Russell Okung LT

    Rd 3: Brandon Spike MLB

    Rd 4: Joe Haden CB

    Rd 5: Derrick Morgan

    Rd 6: Bryan Bulaga RT

    Rd 7: Dez Bryant WR

    Rd 7: (comp pick) Drew Brees QB (*pick traded to NO)

     

    LMAO...your a dumbass...DREW BREES..wow...i think your joking but i cant tell nowdays on this site people say outlandish S**T....no way New Orleans lets Brees go anywhere...

  4. yeah, but all that happened many years ago. if he was racking up those kind of results now, the argument changes. As it is he would not be a viable long term solution. in order to create the next franchise qb we need to get a good teaching veteran in here in have a college draft to study under. For obvious reasons Vick isn't that kind of leader/teacher that would set up the franchise. unfortunately with the position in question moral issues can not be 100% ruled out. Trent lost his position because he was not viewed as a leader by the team. When drafted a qb not just the numbers have to be looked at. As is Vick has weak numbers, his achievements are 5 years old and he can not necessarily be trusted to be a leader/teacher.

     

    Also, keep in mind, this season is the first time the Falcons have ever had back to back winning seasons. Vick didn't put up a lot of Ws either.

     

    And i agree with you on that, it was many moons ago..But id rather take a chance on a guy that has shown he can win and be successful rather than giving the keys to a rookie or journeyman qb. Vick was a leader did you see guys with the vick #7 black eye work (crumpler, dunn, joe horn and others wore it) cuz that was there leader. And now that he has something to prove he'll lead 10x harder... Atl has a much better team now then they had then, how many times have they been to the playoffs since he left??? who else can go into there old stadium with a new team, get cheered when he scores, then get your name chanted in that stadium to come in and play when the hometeam is getting blown out...come on he was the face of a city let alone a team.....thats what i want for my team....

     

    Oh yea comparing trent to mike is like comparing a one legged female hopcotch champ to a playboy model with the IQ of stephen hawking....

  5. it all comes down to he being a genuinely unimpressive qb. beyond the inaccuracy issue; he has barely played in what, 3-4 years? it's telling that Philly brought him in only as a gimmick. look at his stats in ATL. Even in his prime he was rocking a qb rating in the middle 70s. he is also prone to fumbling, something he even did on Saturday's game. Sure he can run around if the pocket folds, but being able to escape into a short run, a fumble or an incompletion? that doesn't really help.

     

    here's the rub: he had a name several years ago and he threw that promise away. people want him here because he had a name several years ago. now he's past his prime (threw only six completions this season) and would be brought here as a gimmick. it would be like drafting a midget or a guy with one hand--a circus freak to seel tickets. but he wouldn't win games, he wouldn't be a long term investment and would alienate a chunk of the fans.

     

    Everyone plays this as a moral issue, but he just isn't good enough.

     

     

    LOL...the midget line was funny...but if he wasnt and impressive qb how did he get pro bowls? if he wasnt impressive how did he beat brett in lambeau under 20 degrees? if he wasnt impressive how did he get a team with terrible receiver (peerless price) to the nfc championship game? rating and stats if thats what you wanna go on then tom bradys stats outta Michigan were how bad yea terrible right??? he's a better choice than brohm or volek..and he'll be a focal point for a disaster of a team people well be wondering if he can do it so yes he well sell tickets... football is a business plus if the bills start winning cuz of him he'll draw fans to balance out the ones that left plus they will crawl back fans are fickle especially buffalo..we just want a winning team...hell A.P. is a fumble machine but will minnesota not give him the ball??? he didnt throw many passes but the ones he threw were darts...

     

    i wasnt playing the moral issues, im playin the he wins issue..that should be more than enuff...

  6. consider me F-ed off. getting Vick would be a profoundly stupid move. A cheap cynical gambit to sell tickets without regard to the future of the organization. we need both a teacher and a young guy. the only question is if Brohm is the young guy

     

    ok there lil buddy I wasnt gonna reply but i said why not... Ok how would vick be a stupid move (besides the fact people cant get over he killed dogs GET OVER IT)...with a line as sh*tty as ours what young guy would survive? vick has escape ability you cant teach...you say he has no accuracy i hear you, but if you seen his play as an eagle he looked pretty damn accurate to me...he still has that 70 yard flick too...and you put brohm who got cut from THE PRACTICE SQUAD of GB over vick (2X pro bowl player)...wow really NO...if we draft a qb that'll be fine but well throw him to the wolves 1st game cuz who else we got FITZPATRICK... ray charles can see we'd still stink it up with him another year...so your move who would you like??? cuz brohm IS NOT THE ANSWER....you seen him stink it up behind that awful line he's not mobile he'd have a concussion 4th game tops....

  7. Lynch has his most value in his current situation.

     

    We arent going to get any type of draft pick that is worth trading for. Plus, we'd just have to go find another RB anyways.

     

    Lynch had 2 1000 yard seasons, and was a beast of a back, before this past season.

     

    If we are REALLY serious about getting the most out of him, we'll tell him to come back 15-20 pounds lighter, get a real OLine in front of him/Jackson, and get a real coaching staff who know how to use him and Jackson effectively.

     

    he may have "worn out his welcome around here", but here is a message board. I understand that most people from Buffalo havent seen anyone like him before (dreads and gold teeth are scary). But we are better off just keeping him on the team and concentrating on areas of REAL need.

     

    if there is one thing everyone should have learned from the Peters situation, it is dont make holes in the roster where you dont need them. We have enough to fill already.

     

     

    I Co-sign you 100% (excpet peters he sucks)...people are scared of what the dont know (apperance wise) if he's not wearin a suit and tie saying YES MASSA he must be a thug. Thats how some of the colorless people of buffalo think, but anyway when marshawn was running for 1000+ yards his first 2 seasons everyone was on his sack, now he has a bad year its off with his head. Not mentioning i can GUARANTEE A.P, Chris Johnson or DeAngelo Williams would do half of what the done behind that O-line. I BET YOU FOOLS WOULD TAKE CHRIS JOHNSON and he looks just like marshawn... Its marshawns fault the offense (except the wr's, rb's) sucked without those good pieces we'd been the lions...

  8. "MEN LIE, WOMEN LIE, NUMBERS DON'T" ~ JAY-Z

     

    With that said why cant cops lie? there are crooked cops in buffalo KNOWN FACT.. and this has got to be one of the most Saturday morning after transformers cartoonish story. COME ON SON this guy makes millions why the HELL would he take $20 bucks? its like a dollar to marshawn. Half of you guys are racial F**KS scared of a black man with dreads and gold teeth so, you use stereotypes to justify your racism. Because your white suburban klan members who cant stand to see a black man with millions so you jealous. JEALOUSY IS A FEMALE TRAIT...get over this dumb shyt please....come on with thus thug, ghetto shyt...its make you clowns look ignorant as fu*k....until this get proven GET OFF HIS D1CK....he's not going anywhere DEAL WITH IT....fu*king $20 got damn dollars you hoe$ on this site make me sick....acting like some lil a$$ bytches...

     

    THUG THAT BYTCHES..... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup::w00t::thumbsup:

  9. Exactly. John Murphy, Mark Kelso and Chris Brown (buffalobills.com guy) were just here in Atlanta for a Q&A session, and they were adamant that Vick is not the QB that he was years ago, and he never was a good passer. They said the Bills would not be pursuing him.

     

    Next year's free agent QB list:

     

    Kyle Orton

    Chad Pennington

    Jason Campbell

    Tarvaris Jackson

    Kellen Clemens

    Charlie Batch

    Kyle Boller

    David Carr

    Brodie Croyle

    Daunte Culpepper

    Rex Grossman

    Joey Harrington

    Jon Kitna

    Matt Moore – Restricted FA

    Chris Redman

    Brett Ratliff – Exclusive Rights FA

    Troy Smith – Restricted FA

     

     

    I could give a rats a$$ what those three think lol...but they dont gm or coach like me so they could be right just like any of us on this board could be right by saying bring mike vick to buffalo...they just get paid to report & blog...LMAO...

     

    from that list i'll pick in this order..(besides mike #1)

     

    Tarvaris Jackson

    David Carr (he got it still if he gets that sack timer in his head fixed, all those houston sacks are bad for your health)

    Troy Smith

    Jason Campbell

     

    Everybody else on that list sucks bo-zacks...lol...

  10. He has to deserve a 2nd chance first...the lack of remorse he shows by painting himself as the victim rather than the victimizer shows he doesn't deserve one. When he starts actually understanding that he was in the wrong and is genuinely sorry about it, maybe we can talk about him getting a 2nd chance. Until then, I'll be happy to see that coward burn in hell

     

    Hmmm burning in hell over 6 dogs...LMAO :worthy: :worthy: ...HAHAHAHAHA...wow really? over dogs im mean so basically what your sayin is mike's on the same level as manson, dahmer and bundy? and they killed people not dogs...man you need special education...matter a fact you need jesus ASAP....i

  11. I wonder if Stallworth will get this much hate when he tries to come back.... I'm guessing no but I may be wrong. I'm not saying he should or shouldn't get the same "hate" treatment, just curious as to what the Philster has to say about that. I mean he did kill a human after getting blasted one night and he only served 30 days. I doubt that he's paid quite as much for his crime as Vick did and he killed a person...

     

     

    got damnit i owe you a beer.. i couldnt have said it better...

  12. There's almost no point in sending someone to play the QB position at all.

     

    thats a good point but someones gotta do it..hell i just got off the phone with ralph he said im starting qb next week...i hope i dont die behind our line..ill prolly go 3-23 34 yards..no one will care tho they'll blame someone else....

  13. yea its marshawns fault fred fumbles, its marshawns fault t.o. doesnt fight for under thrown balls, its marshawns fault the o-line sucks, its marshawns fault head coaching is terrible, its marshawns fault we went threw 3 qbs in one season, its marshawns fault we pick up a 3rd string qb and starts him 2 days later (thats classic marshawn sh*t) its marshawns fault the wrs cant throw to themselves,its marshawns fault i can run a post pattern on reggie corner, its marshawns fault you can run a go route on youbooty, its marshawns fault dante looks like a deer in headlights, its marshawns fault that its 5:15 pm...yea trade marshawn itll make the WHOLE TEAM BETTER :lol: ... :wub::wallbash: :wallbash:

  14. Dude you just gotta leave that guy alone, just read his posts-you're not going to get through to him. Just let him do his thing-kissing cheerleader butt, and ignore how much you want to pursue a losing battle. Trust me it's worth it...

     

    that guy is just target practice (i mean i know better) but that guy is just really annoying. So until he starts being a lil more respectful and not ignorant in what he says about mike im on him like a leech to skin...LOL...plus its all fun to me anyway...

  15. That you went out of your way to put (i vote no) leads me to believe that (you vote) yes on the others and if you are (voting yes) on the others the that means Grossman is okay with you and if you are okay with Grossman then...well.. then (i vote you're insane).

     

     

    LOL i thought the same thing REX GROSSMAN (where they do that at?) he'd want him over mike he cant be serious. Hell call akil smith im pretty sure he's not doing anything he'll play...

  16. If the Bills sign Vick, season tickets will sell faster than ever. I agree with everyone who says he's a scumbag for what he's done. It was terrible, what he's done. Do you think Ravens fans dropped their tickets after they let Ray Lewis play after murdering someone? I doubt it. And for each person saying they'll stop rooting for the Bills, there will be 10 more to take your place. Back before Vick signed with Philly, I was one of those saying I'd find another team if Buffalo signed him. But why give one person that much power? Vick isn't bigger than any team. He's one person. And if he comes to Buffalo, I'm sure as hell not going to run out and buy a number 7 jersey. But I'll still be rooting for my TEAM to win ever Sunday. Like I said, what he did was disgusting and horrible. But let's put it into perspective a little bit. He didn't rape or murder any people. I have 2 cats and a dog. Would I send my dog to stay with Vick down in Virginia? No. But I'll take him on the Bills if he can get us over the hump in a heartbeat.

     

     

    Young money i co-sign you 100 thousand trillion percent (except the find another team back then thing)....people make it personal with him and not about the team. If they stopped liking the bills others will because some (like me) want mike to succeed. If you watched his return to atlanta they chanted WE WANT MIKE in atlanta. Thats love cuz i mean damn he plays for the other team LMAO how the hell that happen. they cheered when he scored LOL once again how the hell that happen, people like and people hate mike. So he will bring revenue (off interest alone) so they dont take the team out our city THATS BUSINESS. I dont want the bills to leave and nor should anybody on this board.

     

    oh BUT ILL RUN OUT AND BUY THE JERSEY SORRY..i wanna be the first to have it so ill order it..lmao :wacko:

  17. He did kill dogs though. In fact he electrocuted dogs, hung dogs, drown dogs, and smashed them to death off of asphalt. I like how people overlook his other favorite activities as well. Like knowingly passing along his gift of herpes to women while using an alias to mask his nastiness. His vehicles have been used for drug trafficking and his crew has been involved in a number of assault charges. Vick has been present for alot of these instances as well, so lets not pretend he was unaware.

     

    When people say they don't want him here it's for good reason. It has nothing to do with race either, but nice try. This board would be in full meltdown mode if Mcnabb was coming here. The truth is Vick was not half the player some people believe he was. So if you have chosen to forgive him, it still might not make sense. If it were the same circumstances for a HOF QB like Manning or Brady, the risk might be worth the reward. The same can be said for Mcnabb if that example comforts you more.

     

    QB ratings:

     

    Losman-75.6

    Vick-75.9

    Favre-86.3

    Mcnabb-86.5

    Brady-93

    Manning-95.3

     

    The QB ratings aren't everything but it's a good start in comparing.

     

     

    You know you must be the first person to actually make sense when they speak rather than go off raw emotional sometimes personal feelings on this subject...nobody has ever said what mike did was rite he was completely wrong by doing those things. But the fact that people make it seem as he is a mass muderer (i.e damer, manson) which people have compared him to is absurd. Calling him a monster or to say that he is not a human being is ridiculous. Him doin the whole STD thing was wrong ass hell. But he lost over 100 mill and fame (the highest selling nfl jersey in history), he has to have that nasty stigma over his head. And he went to jail for 2 years. Karma caught up with him (money, fame, reputation gone), WHAT MORE DO PEOPLE WANT. Thats pretty even if you ask me, what should he kill himself over dogs HELL NO its not that serious.

     

    It sounded pretty racial but I see you have more intelligence than half these morons on this sh*t. But you can't say id give brady or manning a pass but not mike. Wrong is Wrong no matter who it is, so if you'd take them to then you gotta take mike as well.

     

    Now the stats... think about who their receivers are brady, manning, mcnabb, farve always had great receivers. Mike never has he only had alge. Come on PEERLESS PRICE you know bout that guy lol... What else you got to compare? how bout his most qb rushing yards to use behind a garbae o-line with rookie, two 2nd yr and washed up players. Would you want pennington or k.collins behind that line with fitz as back-up again?

  18. i think he could be a option but id rather go with pennington, bulger, or k collins.... and draft a young qb to groom....

     

     

    So you think that pennington (fragile) will stand up behind our line he'd die like trent, bulger id try if he got back to form (how old is he idk) k.collins naw ill pass he's gonna retire...id take tebow or mccoy...if not those the mike vick should be our stater unless we can trade for dennis dixon from steelers... :wallbash:

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