TheKing
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Still waiting for you to clarify the rules of the thread. Come on it's getting late.
I replied
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Drew got replaced by Brady, Losman and Romo. Just bad luck and timing for Drew.
Do you recall him saying anything?
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Do I have to refer to Losman as a disaster to stay on topic or can talk about the Bills making a disaster of his early years qualify for "on topic".
Being that he is on his way out anyways I don't think there is much harm in you using any pejoratives that you want, but I'm not a mod so I really cannot speak for the forum.
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What is the purpose of this thread then? Enlighten us.
Don't be so paranoid I already discussed the purpose, I'd like to get to the topic instead.
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Better yet what did Drew Bledsoe say at the time?
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Oh what about Jim Kelly he always seem to blurt out his opinions, what did he say?
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sherman or mccarthy i think?
Was he thinking that Losman was going to take over when favre retired ?
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Looks more like he's trying to smoke out all the JP fanboys so he can "set them straight" about JP and update his little hit list of posters with man-crushes on JP. So far I think that includes The Dean, beerball and Flbillsfan#1.
I don't even know BillsFan#1, I know the other two are losman devotees.
But that really is not my purpose.
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I'm happy form JP. Getting out of Buffalo is the best thing any young QB can do.
I don't know that that is true, but that's not the focus of the thread.
Please stay on topic.
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This is what I mean about general football knowledge. Anyone that knows about football will tell you multiple coaches are a detriment to a young player, especially a QB, & one that requires more than average development at that. JP would have faired much better going to a team like Seattle where Holmgren would have tutored him properly.
Well for the purposes of the thread lets just assume that losman himself is a bust.
Lets not argue it from that angle.
That's just a reach at this point.
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And part of reviewing Losman's history with the Bills is looking at what specific "experts" thought of him before the draft? I don't really understand what it is you're trying to do here.
Yeah I want to get an idea of what the thinking was at the time ok?
What were you saying on this pick?
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What about the local idiots on wgr ?
Did any of them say ...I think the Bills s### the bed?
Or did they all just nod their heads and say great pick?
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the green bay coach had a hard-on for losman
Who was that?
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Coming out of Tulane, JP had a rep as a player with physical talent that played on a poor team & would need time to develop.
Do you know if Parcell's had any opinion on him?
The Tuna seems to get a good read on players most of the time.
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Hard to say. In his only fulll season he has been the best Bills QB in a while. Trent's season looks like it'll come up short compared to JP 2006. Worse numbers and particularly weak in touchdown passes with too many turnovers for a guy who's strength is to move the chains and keep the offense on the field. Take all the emotion and subjectivity out of it, the offense is a bit more productive and more explosive under JP. Trent's preference to keep it short means defenses play closer to the line and reduce the run game as well.
This isn't about trent.
He's still going to be here.
This is about reviewing the history of Losman as the book is closing on his stay here.
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i know merrill hoge didn't like him
Yeah he seems to know what he's talking about most of the time.
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The error in my opinion was not drafting Losman. It was the coaches Losman has had. JP has a similar skill set to Flutie & had he been utilized in the same manner I believe he would have been successful in Buffalo.
We know that is probably not true because he failed under multiple coaches.
Losman is the common denominator
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Ok what about the other experts outside of kiper?
What was Jaws saying about losman?
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One good way to not make people think you're belaboring an issue is to not belabor an issue. It happened dude, get over it. Losman isn't the first bust for the Bills and he won't be the last.
What was Mel Kiper saying about it ?
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I dont want anyone to think I'm belaboring this disaster, I ask the question for a couple of reasons.
It gives us an idea of what these so called experts know.
And as losmans days are winding down in Buffalo we review the history of one of the Bills biggest draft errors.
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Ok those players were starters, they weren't busts by any means
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Does anyone know who was taken with extra draft picks that we traded (wasted) for that Losman ?
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That defense sucks
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Last time I looked it takes two to sign a contract. Do you honestly think JP would ever sig nan extension with the Bill's. I think JP has been very good about being a "good team player" not complaining, etc. But I don't think under any circumstances he'd ever re-sign with Buffalo. The only way I'd see it happen is if no other teams made him an offer and the Bill's made a decnet offer for him as a number two. However, if he played the rest of the seaso nwell enough to lead the team to the playoffs, then he likely would get other offers from teams, so he's gone then. The only chance he'd likely have of not getting any offers is if he doesn't play anymore and the last impression he gave teams was from the Ar. game.
That's one reason why I argue it would make no sense to play JP as in no way would it benefit the Bills' beyond possibly giving them some wins this season, and that's assuming he played better than TE. If he doesn't play better, than TE just lost playing time. If he does play better he signs with someone else. I don't think Tom Brady or Peyton Manning could take this team to the Super Bowl, so if you're going to maybe at best win a wild card and lose in first round, is that much better than to make playoffs and get better drasft picks.
It's a moot point because the Bills certainly won't be offereing him a contract unless he wants to work as a janitor or something.
My prediction is no NFL team will.
lets review this losman disaster
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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He has my permission because I really don't have a problem with it.