TheBlackMamba
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Michael Clayton of the Bucs is available. If you want downfield blocking, this guy is the BEST in the NFL at that. He's been plaged by injuries, but was healthy last year and started to show flashes of his rookie year play.
we do not need a blocking wideout. we need someone who can get OPEN besides lee evans, preferably someone over 6'
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some may say theres no debate here. i say joe montana TF was more innovative beacause it featured the first full commentary on plays (even though it was 3 plays late). without JMT maybe the madden crze doesnt become what it is today.
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teco bowl???
come on...we are in the madden age now
lol but since we're on the subject remeber joe montana talking football? the commentator would be 3 plays late on every call
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we will win a super bowl when we:
trade peters for 5 first rounders
trade marshawn lynch for anquan boldin
get a TE, a backup QB, 2 pass rushing ends, a DT, 2 LB's, a FS, a SS, a Center, a RG, a new Coach and a new Owner
i dont know about the rest of you...but im pysched about our chances!
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u are all missing one huge difference btw the two teams. when trent goes down with a bruised self esteem this bills team has the CHROISE to fill in. game, set, match fellas
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Tell that to Bill Parcells and the 90 Giants. His defensive game plan was to"STOP ANDRE REED"!!! Besides Thurman who was better than Andre offensively?
it was not stop andre reed! the game plan was for the giants to run the ball and have time consuming drives to keep the bills offense off the field as evidenced by the 8 minute drive before the half and the 10 minute drive to start the 3rd quarter. im sorry this board is way to myopic. to sit here and say that andre desrves to get in over chris carter this year is absurd. the stats dont lie guys. i am not stating that andre reed wasnt great but he is going to be waiting an awfully long time to get into the hall with tim brown and jerry rice coming up in the next few years
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Case hardly closed...Carter caught a WHOPPING 8 passes more a year than Reed...that's what an extra catch every other game? Wow...you're right that's ENORMOUS! Think of how many games the Bills were just running clock in the last qtr of games. We wont even talk about Carters offense or the Dome he played in...JEESH! TD's, lets not even go there...you know the Bills pounded the rock WAY more than the Vikings so of course his stats would be bloated a bit there. Why did you ignore the posts about their resective showings in the playoffs? Hmm....???
basically what i am trying to say is to be a hall of famer you should have exceptional numbers in the regular season (rice, carter, moss, brown, harrison) or do something special in the playoffs (rice, irvin, swan) and have some championships to back it up (rice, swan irvin)
reed had great numbers at the time but every year he falls further down the list of catches, yards and td's
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Dude your getting silly...I hear you and agree Reed wasn't the best ever, but damn, please come to the table with a better argument. I think we can both agree that Reed played in more of a RUN first offense than Carter...I think we can both agree that Carter had a better supporting WR cast for the majority of his career. Carter was a terrific WR, but he couldn't do was Andre did, which was run across the middle...take a 5 yd pass and turn it upfield for huge gains. Carter ran great routes and caught a lot of balls on the sidelines, and down field...I have no issue with that at all, but Reed was something special because of that, he could run outs, stretch the field AND run across the middle. Not many WR's in the Hall could compare. Let's also throw in a VERY big fact that Carter played in a DOME for most of his career!! Carter didn't have it great with Salisbury or McMahon, but they didn't play with him long and neither had a complete season with him. Also he never played a down with Wade Wilson! Please dont pretend that Warren Moon or Randall Cuningham couldn't throw the rock, you're embarrassing yourself. They both had great passing stats in the years that they played with Carter. Also, please tell me a Chris carter game that stands out for you? I can't remember a single catch of his. Look, both theses guys are deserving of the Hall...their stats are pretty similar...Carter has a slight statistical advantage, but considering the offensive schemes he played on (pass happy), and the conditions (Dome), AND the fact the guy NEVER exposed himself across the middle of the field, a case can be made for Reed ahead of Carter this Hall ballot. Will it happen? Probably not, and that's too bad. Stats are a HUGE part of the selection process, but it shouldn't be all telling, and it's not in this case...Reed was a better all around weapon.
mc d read all of the posts first...i started out saying reed wasnt as hall of fame worthy as rice, carter, moss, and harrison...and lv said explain to him why carter is a hall of famer
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thank u for clarifying my point. he is the second most prolific receiver in almost every major receiving category of all time with 8 different quaterbacks.
its as easy as this:
they both played 16 seasons and carter has 43 more touchdowns, 701 more rec. yards, 150 more catches and 1 more pro bowl
case closed.
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So our player needs are: C, WR, LB, QB, DE, TE, FB, S, and DT?
Anything else?
yes....stop making these "keys to success" threads...every bills fans knows that they need and it has been beaten to death for about a month
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tRADE LYNCH FOR bOLDIN
sIGN sPROLES
tRADE pARRISH TO sANDIEGO FOR A 3RD
TRADE yOUBOTY AND 3RD TO cLEVELAND FOR wINSLOW.
sIGN pEPPERS
SIGN vILMA
MOVE POZ TO olb
dRAFT rAJI
dRAFT pAT cHUNG
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THAT MY FRIENDS, IS RIDICULUS!!
lmao...that just about covers every single daily thread
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So tell me again why Cris Carter is a lock for the hall? Because, B through E, he lacks any of these, and he played in a better passing era than Reed. He also had Randy Moss on the other side of him.
I don't get the fascination with Cris Carter.....at all.
he had randy moss to help him out for 3 years...he was already considred on of the best receievers of all time befroee moss got there. he is second all time in receptions and td's. he had jim mcmahon (at the twiligh of his career), sean salibury, wade wilson, a 78 yr old warren moon and randall cunningham as he qb not jim kelly (a hall of famer)
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B: the comeback game sticks out in all nfl fans minds every time the playoffs come around thanks to espn and the nfl network showing replays of the entire game.
C: i implore you to again watch the washington superbowl and see the catches he made across the middle and the hits he took making those catches. he held on to the ball every time. that is big.
E: can't argue with that
does it really stick out to average nfl fans or just to us bills fans? i would tend to think that most nfl fans think more of the bills as a whole that game because it was the greatest comeback in nfl hostory
he also took a terrible personal foul (even though he was interferred with)
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there no denying andre was great and a top 5 receiver of his time but ts debatable whether he is a hall of famer. i think he will get in but he is going to be waiting a while, just like art monk and lynn swan
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Ok, here's my sentence then:
"Other than Jerry Rice, no receiver of his era had more of an impact on his team's success than Andre Reed as evidenced by the number of career and post-season reception records he held at the time of his retirement."
GO BILLS!!!
what??? their success was based on andre reed??? i beg to differ...i believe it was based more on kelly being able to run the offense and thurman thomas. andre reed has even admitted that he was not the first, not the second but the 3rd option on the team. was jerry rice montana or youngs 3rd option? was chris carter the 3rd option? i think not
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Did you say grilled wings! That's blasphemy.
I agree with the chilli, I have come up with a pretty good recipe that I call my "circle the wagons" chilli.
no way....u get some chiavettas or whatever kind of bbq sauce you like...marinate the wings the night before and grill them up (on charcoal grill)..phenomenal!
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i think colin cowherd says it best...if u can sum up why a player is a hall of famer in one sentence then he belongs there. i am not so sure u can do that with andre reed. he was one of the premier receivers of his time but:
A: he scored 10 td's or more just once (where as the jerry rices, chris carters, randy moss, marvin harrisons, etc.. have
B: he never had a game that sticks out to anyone else besides bills fans
C: never came up big in the super bowls
D: never won a super bowl
E: with each passing year he falls further down the the major receiving categories
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now this is a REAL thread...i'd say u can flip a coin btw chilli and grilled chicken wings
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or a trade marshawn lynch thread
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these trade threads are getting almost ridiculous as eveyone posting "key moves to make in the off-season" threads ridiculous...you guys do realize it is to make trades in this leage right? (which is why you dont see many of them)
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I am a long time Alabama Fan. JPW is all right, but I don't think he is worth more than a 4th round pick. With a better quarterback, that team might have been impossible to stop.
im pretty sure forida proved that even if bama had joe namath back there they werent going to win that game
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guys, face it the ralph is a dump. when the meadows lands close this year it will be one of the oldest stadiums in the league. guess it's kind of intimidating for opposing teams to come in hear and have to play in such a dump because of the swirling winds and the crowd noise but it is wayyyy out-dated. i mean what cold-weather, open stadium plays with grassy-turf, instead of real grass (i.e. pittsburgh, cleveland, green bay, new england, etc...). By the way i have been to cleveland stadium and heinz field. both stadiums are awesome. the are both easily accessible because both are downtown. both provide an up to date stadium while not losing the craziness of the fans.
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i cannot root for the ravens based on the fact of willis mcgahee playing there, ray lewis getting away with murder and that joe flacco has already been inducted into saint-hood
Best Super Bowl team you ever saw
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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the '89 49ers were ridiculous. montana, rice, roger craig, ronnie lott, bill romanowski, brent jones, tom rathman, charles haley and some guy Steve young as the backup qb, all in their primes. i believe it was the biggest margin of victory in a SB too