Kingfish
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Those jerseys are great.
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I like the way you say that as I'm a bit confused. Can a 304 lb guy really be an outside linebacker in the NFL??
Depends on what you ask him to do. Last night on the radio broadcast Kelso said that Carrington will play a lot like Woodley where he'll be rushing the passer the vast majority of the time but when he is asked to play coverage his only real responsibilities will be to shove a receiver at the LOS and then drop back quickly and clog up a passing lane.
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Isn't Ron Edwards the Chiefs starting NT?
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But thats their point, then he would have had to play RG for the Bills weither he was happy about it or not, or he would have to sit out or force them to let him go
Why would you want the Bills to retain a player of just average ability who doesn't want to be here?
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Because he was a RESTRICTED free agent, which means we could have tendered him at say, a 3rd round level, and kept him on the cheap OR gained a 3rd rounder from another team that singed him. No doubt he would be starting for our sorry assses right now.
Incognito cleared waivers with only the Bills and Dolphins placing claims for him. No team was going to part with a draft pick to sign him.
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As another extension of goodwill from Georgetown University to its academic partners in China, the university president traveled there this month with the men’s basketball team for clinics with Chinese students and a handful of exhibition games.
But as the Hoyas played the Bayi Rockets on Thursday evening, the game “deteriorated into a melee during which players exchanged blows, chairs were thrown and spectators tossed full water bottles as Hoyas players and coaches headed to the locker room at Olympic Sports Center Stadium,” Post sports reporter Gene Wang reported from Beijing.
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The point about Maybin is that it totally undermines the poster's point. Instead of picking up a failed Gibson (who looked the part of a 3-4 defender on paper), the Bills stuck with the Aaron Maybin project. Maybin himself was just cut, so the fact is both were failures and gambling on one or the other wouldn't have mattered much in the long run. Capice?
I don't remember the Gibson drama being framed as a referendum on Maybin or that anyone realistically believed at the time that Maybin could have been cut halfway through his second season. As far as I can tell no first round pick in the last 20 or so year has been cut before the end of his second season just for a lack of production with the only examples of being cut that early were Dimitrius Underwood and Lawrence Phillips-both with serious off the field issues. Had the Bills claimed Gibson it probably would have been McCargo's roster spot and he would have taken practice reps away from Arthur Moats and Antonio Coleman not Maybin.
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1) Only so many can make the roster so you'd end up cutting the vast majority of the picks.
2) There wouldn't be enough reps in camp to go around to properly evaluate these players.
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First off, the Bears OLine is BAD.
Very true but they were bad last year as well but when the Bills played the Bears last year their pass rush was still unable to take advantage of this. I think it's safe to say that the Bills pass rush is improved but by how much remains to be seen.
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I'm not questioning our posters' IQs, I'm questioning the Front Office's IQ. Draft picks are a question of supply & demand. Chris Chambers was traded for a 2nd Round pick. Evans was worth at least a 3rd.
Remember what they said about Chris Chambers? He's been held back by the poor play of AJ Feeley, Jay Fiedler, Gus Frerotte, Joey Harrington, and Cleo Lemon. Imagine how good he will be with Philip Rivers? But the fact was that he was about 30 years old and was separated from his best season (2005) by 2 years. Sound familiar?
A 3rd for Evans? How is Evans worth a 3rd at 30 coming off too poor seasons when Boldin was only worth a 3rd and a 5th at 29 and coming off two very good seasons.
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I have been hoping that Danny Batten could step up and make this team and hopefully one day become a solid OLB. I love his size and tenacity. I saw that he had 2 sacks. I'm guessing he looked pretty good, can anyone share what they saw from him last night or even thus far in camp?
He looked good. On his sack (or maybe it was a pressure) he really took it to the Bears RB who was in to block.
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Were more of those throws of the 'longer' variety? Would you expect the completion % to be equal between a pass 7 yards past the LOS and one that's 17?
Then we can compare Lee's last two seasons to his two best seasons 2008 and 2006
2010-44.5
2009-46.3
2008-61.0
2006-59.8
A 15% drop in Lee's success rate since his two best seasons makes me think that he's lost a step.
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One thing that just sticks out to me when I looked at Lees stats on the rotoworld link:
most receptions in a season in the 80's and it only happened once. That's just sad, especially for a guy that people around here think of as a great #1 WR. Let's out that into perspective, Boldin, Fitzgerald and Breaston all did that a few years ago from the same offense. Moss, Welker both did it for years in NE. There are plenty of teams that have 2 80 catch recievers on thier rosters and Lees only done it once.
And for those people that say that it's too early to call Stevie a real #1 reciever cause he's only put up numbers one year, consider this:
in just one season after being given the chance to start, Stevie posted more yards, TDs, receptions, and had an absolutely great repor with his QB and he's only been in the league for 3 years. Evans has had over how many? 7 years with at times being the ONLY option and still never did what Stevie did. The only time he even sniffed 10 TDs is when he was the 3rd WR with Moulds on the team taking the #1 role. So maybe we should put Evans in the slot behind Stevie and Nelson and let him work in space. Just a thought. I guarantee you all that he never tops his 9 TDs or just over 1,000 yards or 80 receptions again in his career. At least on this team. So let's trade him, get a 3 and 4 for him if you can. Give the young guys a chance to prove themselves. Good teams do this kind of stuff all the time. The only time when teams keep these guys are when they are actually good.
Another telling stat to look at when comparing Lee with the rest of the receiving core is the percentage of catches he made when targeted by the quarterback-
Nelson-65.9
Roscoe-62.2
Stevie-57.7
Evans- 44.9
Jones- 43.9
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San Francisco looked terrible too. I wonder just how many 3 win or less teams there will be this year.
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I'm sure Revis and all of our rivals' corners are EXTREMELY worried about facing the All-Forever team surefire lock Naaman Roosevelt.
I'm sure they weren't too worried about Lee anymore either, who only had one more catch against the Bills AFC East rivals last season than Roosevelt did.
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That's really a laughable comparison. Yup Gailey loves a guy who may not make the roster of one of the worst teams in the league vs a probowler.
1) Roosevelt is a virtual lock to make the roster now, which I believe was the point of the trade.
2) When did Lee make the Pro- Bowl?
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August roster moves of high priced veterans have rarely been pushed by the Bills coaches or GMs. This was not a Buddy move. Or Gailey.
Gailey is debatable.
http://www.wivb.com/dpp/sports/lee-evans-looking-to-bounce-back
Gailey on Lee
“We’ve got to get him to become a better underneath receiver,” Gailey says. “We’ve got to give him things that he can do, let him work on those things that make him better as a short receiver. We know he’s got the deep threat…we got to help him get better in the short and intermediate areas.”That's a pretty blunt critique of a veteran WR coming from his head coach.
Now compare it to Gailey on Roosevelt
http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Roosevelt-rolling/906f69a7-1133-4655-8a59-ad103465906b
“He is a great young player. He really is a great young player,” said Gailey smiling. “God didn’t give him a lot of speed. God didn’t give him a lot of size, but I tell you what he makes the most of what he’s got. He’s a great young player. I’m excited to see what he does in the games this year. He did great when we put him in there last year.”Watch the video of the Roosevelt comments and you can just tell that he's a Gailey favorite. My guess is that he'd rather go with the coachable young guys for their potential than a 30 year old deep threat who in Gailey's mind is one dimensional.
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FWIW
The market value for receivers has been very depressed ever since Randy Moss with four good years left in him was acquired by New England from Oakland for a fourth-round pick. So increasing the value in return was not going to happen.As for justifying the trade, all I can say is I have it on good authority that Evans wanted to move on. I don’t know that he asked for a trade, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
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I expect you for one to recognize that the main criticism is not of the roster move itself, but the dysfunction that permeates OBD. You have more evidence of Overdorf overstepping his bounds to make real personnel decisions.
Specifically what evidence do you have that this trade was an edict handed down by the Overdorf/Littman/Wilson triumvirate?
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So 28th in the NFL in scoring offense is now "maximizing effectiveness"?
OK, but I didn't make the point about the offense in general.
33 catches for 400 yards and 2 TDs is "maximizing effectiveness"?
Excuse me while I laugh my ass off.
Seriously? Roscoe averaged about 20 catches for 200 yards a season for the first 5 years of his career and Chan figured out a way to nearly double that production in only half a season. Sounds like the "maximization of effectiveness" to me.
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As much as I like him, Lee was a one-trick pony. Reminds me of some guys I play ultimate frisbee with--they just run deep, and will oftentimes out-run the thrower, or just float around 50 yards away with a defender in their face.
Lee's a pretty good receiver who will probably have 1-2 productive seasons with Boldin/Flacco until his production trails off precipitously. That being said I'm fine with the Bills trading away every veteran who either they don't anticipate being on the team in 2013 or who will probably be declining due to age. Did I just write off 2 seasons?
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He's the product of a horribly run organization that rarely puts its most gifted players in the position to maximize their effectiveness.
Why was Chan able to maximize the effectiveness of Steve Johnson and Roscoe Parrish but not Lee?
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Oh here we go.
Players don't perform, must be the coaches fault.
Players perform, all praise beith the coaching staff, unless it's the Bills coaching staff.
Shouldn't the fact that under Chan Stevie Johnson and Roscoe Parrish both had career years while UDFAs like Nelson and Jones looked good when given opportunities but at the same time Lee had one of his worst seasons of his entire career count for something? Why was he the only wideout that Chan was unable to elevate?
Interesting fact that sheds a lot of light on Bills
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Think the Bills are cheap? The TB Bucs starting QB, RB and WR make less than the Bills backup center!!!!!!!!!!!!