John Cocktosten
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He got cut from his high school football team and thereafter received his first swirly. he has hated football players ever since.
Or he is just being honest. Same team, same coaches, same system and the only significant FA is on the bench with an injury that usually last all season. PLAYOFFS HERE WE COME!!!!!!!!!!
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Do you know what reading in context is? When did I compare Reed to Whitner? I compared team philosophy to show how preposterous the idea is. A great player in one position is not moved to make room for another player in their current position.
"Peyton, you've been really good at QB, but we know you can punt well and that Sorgi guy does pretty well for a back-up, so do you mind if you punt for us?"
"Hey Fitzgerald, we have Breaston whose looking better and better. Do you mind playing tight end this year?"
Is that better for you? A good player is never moved to a new position unless it's an upgrade, like moving an OL to tackle, or a special teams player starting. Going from a natural position to a new position proves he sucks ass.
That is a great point. The Donte lovers will say because of his versatility, he does whats best for the team.
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Is anyone comparing Donte to Ed Reed, other than you? He doesn't have to be a pro bowler to be a good player, and if he can play FS and SS, and Scott can only play SS, then it makes sense to move him.
Yeah, but he's not a good player. He is an average player.
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By the logic of the "Pro" Donte crowd and Tim Graham (Donte sucks because everyone else around him sucks), we can expect another year of no forced turnovers or big plays of any kind. I wonder how many "fence sitters" there will be next year when he has another average year? Will there be a spot on the team for him if Byrd turns out to be a solid player?
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Yup, the Bills passive Tampa-2 defense is extremely similar to the Ravens attacking 3-4.
And again, please explain to me how it is donte whitner's fault that the Bills took him instead of Ngata. Or how it is Donte Whitner's fault that 99% of the NFL would have taken a DT. Or how it is Donte Whitner's fault that "we put the cart before the horse?"
Yeah, that was a head scratcher to me too.
Ramius, that quote from Tim Graham couldn't be more off to me. That means that a MLB with no interior D Line is at less of a disadvantage? I think when you try to look at those things qualitatively they sound good, but the truth is that it's completely biased. Gren Bay and St. Louis struggled to put pressure on the QB last year too but Collins and Atogwe were at the top of the NFL in INT's. Buffalo was ranked 14th in total D, St. Louis was 28th and GB was 20th. So much for "It's the guys in front of you" theory. Great playmakers do not need help around them to make plays. Does it help? Sure, but after 3 years, instincts and anticipation should kick in and Donte has shown neither.
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No joke. He's lining up very deep even for a free safety. Which is great if we're going to score millions of touchdowns and the defense can play prevent 100% of the time, I suppose.
20 yards is the typical depth that a FS plays at.
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Me personally, I wish I saw what other Pro D's see but I think he is limited. I think Anti D crowd has to get over the fact that we passed on Ngata (When Ngata scored yesterday I got about 4 phone calls saying, "HE SHOULD BE OURS!") But I think you call a spade a spade, he is small, limited in coverage and is simply just not an impact player at all. He is an average safety.
Yeah, I told you to get over it
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Yeah... I just wonder if the Bills plan on having him line up 20 yards off the ball during the regular season like they have in the pre-season. Sort of hard to make a ton of plays when you need binoculars to see the line of scrimmage.
He's playing Free Safety.
As an Anti Donte guy, I don't understand what Ngata has to do with this argument. Yes, we know the Bills were complete idiots when they took Donte over Ngata but that is not Lil Donte's fault. It was Marv and the rest of the Bills "Braintrust" who thought it was a good idea to rebuild a struggling franchise with a small safety with zero ability to make a play on the ball. When you mention Ngata, it gives the Pro Donte crowd a reason to deflect away from the actual facts...he just isn't that good.
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Obviously you have to be anti-whitner. It is, after all, HIS fault that the Bills selected him at #8. And actual play on the field doesnt matter, only draft slot. Who cares if he's a good safety. If he isn't the best in the league, we should cut him because you need the best when drafting at #8.
I think you should read what I wrote. I think the anti crowd should get over Ngata is what I said. I also never said he should be cut either. My point is that he is a very polarizing player. The cheap shot tackle agaisnt the Radiers is a perfect example of what he does and the reaction he causes amongst the fans. When I heard fans say that it was awesome and that Donte wasn't going to let that happen in his house, i was like "WHAT?" I thought it was a total bush league move! So the anti/pro question fits here. I wouldn't start the same poll for anyone else on this team other than Donte. His mouth gets him ito trouble along with his antics off of the field. So, even though I didn't come out and say it, I am Anti but it has nothing to do with #8 or Ngata. His average play doesn't equal up to his big mouth. That being said, I hope he proves me horribly wrong.
Me personally, I wish I saw what other Pro D's see but I think he is limited. I think Anti D crowd has to get over the fact that we passed on Ngata (When Ngata scored yesterday I got about 4 phone calls saying, "HE SHOULD BE OURS!") But I think you call a spade a spade, he is small, limited in coverage and is simply just not an impact player at all. He is an average safety.
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Voted all three because I could.
HILARIOUS!
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The reason I ask is because this seems to be a topic that comes up all of the time with my friends. He is as polarizing as JP and Flutie were but he is a SAFETY! So I am looking for my fellow TBD'ers to settle this for my friends and I. And please, save the, "Why does it have to be pro or anti?" Because, everyone I talk to and read on these message boards seems to have a very strong opinion on him either way.
Me personally, I wish I saw what other Pro D's see but I think he is limited. I think Anti D crowd has to get over the fact that we passed on Ngata (When Ngata scored yesterday I got about 4 phone calls saying, "HE SHOULD BE OURS!") But I think you call a spade a spade, he is small, limited in coverage and is simply just not an impact player at all. He is an average safety.
Wouldn't it be funny if Michael Vick....
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