Excellent article on Vikings and Darnold decison (Athletic; paywalled)

[GaryPinC]

21 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

There was an entire article a couple weeks back also in the Athletic about how QB's are mostly all being ruined today by getting them out there way to fast.  But the coaches job is on the line so it's done, repeatedly.

 

Recall years back my thought was that seemed like some of the better QB's in NFLK came from small schools as they didn't have 10 All Americans surrounding them. 

 

Hmmmmm.  Do All Americans still exist or am I dating myself??

I think the bottom line that's emerging is many NFL front offices need better plans to develop their QB's.  Mahomes would have been fine if he had started his rookie year.  Josh has been fine.  Mayfield could read defenses pre-snap at Oklahoma and was rookie of the year in 2018.  The wheels fell off because of coaching incompetency in Cleveland.  Baker is the most obvious example of how FOs fail their QBs.  Besides the Jets, of course.

 

For some QBs more time on the bench is a must.  But it falls on the FO knowing how best to develop their QB, and teaching their QB how best to develop themselves.  Think about all the diverse off-season work Josh has put in to grow his game.  Without this self-motivation, I think it takes him much longer to develop and maybe he never hits his ceiling.

[GaryPinC]

11 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

One name from a long time ago from a small school was Phil Simms

 

Was watching one of the post game shows today and the commentator was talking about Penn State struggles practically with passing and his exact words were "Penn St has paid a lot for these WR's!"  The absurdity of a statement like that is wild, but it's the era we now are in.

 

 

 

Waited as long as the could for the sake of the coaches jobs or for the good of the player?

Depends on if they are asking these rookies to do things at game speed that they are incapable of?  Bill Parcells was well known for only installing gameplans his QB was comfortable executing.  I think the vast majority of players learn best by doing, if it has to be a real game, they must be fully prepared and comfortable on what they're trying to do to learn lessons and grow.