Arkady Renko Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 A whole bunch of people, especially in the national media, have been saying that the Bills are going to take step back by going with Losman this year rather than Bledsoe. They compare it to the situation in Cinncinnati last year where Kitna was benched after a strong Bengals season for Carson Palmer and how they took a step back initially. I totally disagree that this situation is at all similar. If you look at the Bengals in 2003, they were successful because of their better offense for the most part. Kitna had a pro-bowl type year and was helping to keep the team competitive. So when Palmer started they were going to have a slight step back because it was Palmers first year and the Bengals had been so dependent on their offense. The Bills this year were not being carried by Bledsoe but by the defense and special teams as everyone has mentioned. Besides a veteran being replaced by a second year player, there is no similarity at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puhonix Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 A whole bunch of people, especially in the national media, have been saying that the Bills are going to take step back by going with Losman this year rather than Bledsoe. They compare it to the situation in Cinncinnati last year where Kitna was benched after a strong Bengals season for Carson Palmer and how they took a step back initially. I totally disagree that this situation is at all similar. If you look at the Bengals in 2003, they were successful because of their better offense for the most part. Kitna had a pro-bowl type year and was helping to keep the team competitive. So when Palmer started they were going to have a slight step back because it was Palmers first year and the Bengals had been so dependent on their offense. The Bills this year were not being carried by Bledsoe but by the defense in special teams as everyone has mentioned. Besides a veteran being replaced by a second year player, there is no similarity at all. 249648[/snapback] That's right, Palmer was healthy and practicing for his first year... so this is even larger step back for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 That's right, Palmer was healthy and practicing for his first year... so this is even larger step back for the Bills. 249650[/snapback] That's pretty good! Any talk down there about Rudi Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 That's pretty good! Any talk down there about Rudi Johnson? 249654[/snapback] forgive him Father, Puhonix knows not what he posts...he is after all, merely a dolphins fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puhonix Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 forgive him Father, Puhonix knows not what he posts...he is after all, merely a dolphins fan... 249656[/snapback] God blessed me to be fortunate enough to see Marino and Kelly play, in Miami. for that I am blessed. But to be a Dolphins fan, God had no hand in this. I merely chose the team that he wore on his hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 That's right, Palmer was healthy and practicing for his first year... so this is even larger step back for the Bills. 249650[/snapback] But look at where Loaman has been since the season has been over. He's been in Buffalo working with Wyche and TC at the training facility, watching film, lifting weights, etc. He is just making up for lost time, thats all. He'll be ready to not necessarily win football games next year, rather ready to not lose them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 That's right, Palmer was healthy and practicing for his first year... so this is even larger step back for the Bills. 249650[/snapback] The coaching staff that had been working with Losman for that first year didn't seem too concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puhonix Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 But look at where Loaman has been since the season has been over. He's been in Buffalo working with Wyche and TC at the training facility, watching film, lifting weights, etc. He is just making up for lost time, thats all. He'll be ready to not necessarily win football games next year, rather ready to not lose them. 249674[/snapback] At the same time, you're assuming that Palmer was watching MTV and eating BBQ chips for the postseason? He knew he was gonig to be the starter, just as well as we know now that JP is starting. I'm sure he worked just as hard as Losman is working now. You put them both on an even plane, and Losman has the disadvantage because he was rehabbing, in addition to working out and studying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 But look at where Loaman has been since the season has been over. He's been in Buffalo working with Wyche and TC at the training facility, watching film, lifting weights, etc. He is just making up for lost time, thats all. He'll be ready to not necessarily win football games next year, rather ready to not lose them. 249674[/snapback] Who is to say Palmer didn't do the same last year? Plus Palmer was a higher rated draft pick. Plus as was mentioned Palmer was injured half of his rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Who is to say Palmer didn't do the same last year? Plus Palmer was a higher rated draft pick. Plus as was mentioned Palmer was injured half of his rookie year. 249710[/snapback] I don't recall Palmer being injured in 2003. Neither he or Matthews played that year - Kitna took all the snaps. Palmer missed the last 3 games of '04 with a knee strain after a (clean) hit by NE's Seymour in week 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 At the same time, you're assuming that Palmer was watching MTV and eating BBQ chips for the postseason? He knew he was gonig to be the starter, just as well as we know now that JP is starting. I'm sure he worked just as hard as Losman is working now. You put them both on an even plane, and Losman has the disadvantage because he was rehabbing, in addition to working out and studying. 249708[/snapback] Losman has a better defense and special teams working for him. This balance will provide Losman with everything that he needs to succeed in 05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I don't recall Palmer being injured in 2003. Neither he or Matthews played that year - Kitna took all the snaps. Palmer missed the last 3 games of '04 with a knee strain after a (clean) hit by NE's Seymour in week 13. 249718[/snapback] Sorry wasn't injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Losman has a better defense and special teams working for him. This balance will provide Losman with everything that he needs to succeed in 05. 249721[/snapback] Much like the success Kyle Boller had with a 2000 yard rusher and one of the best offensive lines in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puhonix Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Losman has a better defense and special teams working for him. This balance will provide Losman with everything that he needs to succeed in 05. 249721[/snapback] Everything he needs to suceed... yes, but you're off your rocker if you think its going to happen in 05. Give it a couple years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puhonix Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Wow.. I'm in the middle of a newbie war here. heh heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Much like the success Kyle Boller had with a 2000 yard rusher and one of the best offensive lines in football. 249726[/snapback] I said a better defense and special teams! I didn't mention 2000 yard rusher or anything about O-Line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Wow.. I'm in the middle of a newbie war here. heh heh. 249737[/snapback] I am not a newbie... I am a reincarnate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puhonix Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I am not a newbie... I am a reincarnate. 249747[/snapback] ...Said the cow to the butcher. Was that too much? I never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I am not a newbie... I am a reincarnate. 249747[/snapback] If thats the case, you might want to spell Bob Vila right before you build up too many posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phlegm Alley Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 ...Said the cow to the butcher. Was that too much? I never know. 249755[/snapback] Said the blind man to his deaf son... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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