A More NFL oriented discussion of the college football playoff system

[Hplarrm]

Should the (actually when in my view) will the NFLPA move to represent college athletes who play football and more important how should they do this?

 

In other major league sports, the CBAs include strict rules about how and when teams are allowed to sign athletes to their teams (generally 16) and the team owners sign individuals to rich speculative contracts and spend millions on their training to go to the show eventually in agreements with generally separately owned minor league teams.

 

While basketball shares some of the business elements with the NFL, the remains singular among the major league sports in that they have basically dished all the costs of training onto the colleges and only had to devote cash to a combine they control which allows players to compete to picked in a draft and individual rights are simply pushed aside by thei assignment to one team (again their are variations inherent in all leagues and interesting overlays with the viability of players entering the process from Europe or elsewhere).

 

My sense is that there is an interesting dance going on here where the football story is to a great degree defined by the fact that the NFL somehow has developed into a structure where the rights of adults from 18 to their birth year graduates that adults physically capable of playing this game are simply barred from signing with teams.

 

Attempts to uphold individual rights in courts and let the free market simply sort out who plays and who does not have pretty roundly been repudiated by the courts. It really amazes me how socialism really rules the day in the economic operations of professional football and reality has developed where part of being one of the teams is that they totally share gross revenues and that they repudiate individual rights to play and live where an individual wants based on a draft where the poor performing teams are rewarded with the best draft picks.

 

How non-free market, I am surprised that Fidel Castro is such a baseball fan and not a football fan as the NFL system is more like Cuba than America in regard to the fact that it simply tells you where to live your life.

 

I think it is going to pretty quickly become impossible to deny adult college players a slice of the billions of new dollars to be generated by the college playoffs.

 

It seems quite natural to me that the NFLPA will move to organize and protect the fiscal voice and rights of adults in college who as of today receive no salary in exchange for putting their well-being on the line in college ball and entertaining all who are interested.

 

The founding of college football playoffs are going to have some amazing impliacations for the NFLPA as collegiams likely demand and achieve their American adult rights to let the free market (to some extent as the NFL itself is a lot more a socialist than free market We see that all the time in the NFL since the advent of the modern CBA where not only has a partnership been created between the players and owners but when Gene Upshaw publicly declared that the new CBA would be based on total receipts rather than a designated gross and dictated that the split needed to start with a 6, the players are actually the majority owners.

 

I am most interested in seeing folks views about the fiscal implications for the NFL of the college football playoffs rather than the simple raw sports enjoyment of watching man-boys slap each other upside the head.

[Toshiero]

The playoffs mean nothing to the NFL. All it does is clear the cluster !@#$ of screwing good teams over that deserve to play for the national championship up. and NO college players should never be paid and NO a 'free market system' will never be allowed by owners.

 

The owners were prepared to disband the NFL and shut down their teams and reform if they lost in court.

 

At what point will the employees understand they are just that, employees and they won't ever be anything more than that?

[Luxy312]

The NFLPA is not going to get more involved with college football just because there's a playoff system. There's simply no fiscal implications at all to the change. People made similar comments when the BCS formulas came to be and we see how that changed things. I.e. not at all. More important and to the point, even if they have a "right" to play in the NFL, who's to say that the NFL just can't collectively say no? Many jobs require qualifications. Who's to say that the NFL and NFLPA couldn't just jointly say that a qualification for anyone to play in the NFL is at least 2 years of college? There's a myriad of reasons why that could be a valid requirement. I.e. back to your question, there's no significance to the change of the college football system on any level other than the college level where we don't have to wonder what could have been with the stupid BCS system.

[NoSaint]

Should the (actually when in my view) will the NFLPA move to represent college athletes who play football and more important how should they do this?

 

In other major league sports, the CBAs include strict rules about how and when teams are allowed to sign athletes to their teams (generally 16) and the team owners sign individuals to rich speculative contracts and spend millions on their training to go to the show eventually in agreements with generally separately owned minor league teams.

 

While basketball shares some of the business elements with the NFL, the remains singular among the major league sports in that they have basically dished all the costs of training onto the colleges and only had to devote cash to a combine they control which allows players to compete to picked in a draft and individual rights are simply pushed aside by thei assignment to one team (again their are variations inherent in all leagues and interesting overlays with the viability of players entering the process from Europe or elsewhere).

 

My sense is that there is an interesting dance going on here where the football story is to a great degree defined by the fact that the NFL somehow has developed into a structure where the rights of adults from 18 to their birth year graduates that adults physically capable of playing this game are simply barred from signing with teams.

 

Attempts to uphold individual rights in courts and let the free market simply sort out who plays and who does not have pretty roundly been repudiated by the courts. It really amazes me how socialism really rules the day in the economic operations of professional football and reality has developed where part of being one of the teams is that they totally share gross revenues and that they repudiate individual rights to play and live where an individual wants based on a draft where the poor performing teams are rewarded with the best draft picks.

 

How non-free market, I am surprised that Fidel Castro is such a baseball fan and not a football fan as the NFL system is more like Cuba than America in regard to the fact that it simply tells you where to live your life.

 

I think it is going to pretty quickly become impossible to deny adult college players a slice of the billions of new dollars to be generated by the college playoffs.

 

It seems quite natural to me that the NFLPA will move to organize and protect the fiscal voice and rights of adults in college who as of today receive no salary in exchange for putting their well-being on the line in college ball and entertaining all who are interested.

 

The founding of college football playoffs are going to have some amazing impliacations for the NFLPA as collegiams likely demand and achieve their American adult rights to let the free market (to some extent as the NFL itself is a lot more a socialist than free market We see that all the time in the NFL since the advent of the modern CBA where not only has a partnership been created between the players and owners but when Gene Upshaw publicly declared that the new CBA would be based on total receipts rather than a designated gross and dictated that the split needed to start with a 6, the players are actually the majority owners.

 

I am most interested in seeing folks views about the fiscal implications for the NFL of the college football playoffs rather than the simple raw sports enjoyment of watching man-boys slap each other upside the head.

 

you might have been right, but the crazy dollars are already there. if this ups 7 billion to 8 billion, that really isnt crossing over some threshold that really matters (i made those numbers up, for the record). if it was going to radically change the equation, maybe youd see other things reshuffling but this is just sweetening the pot up a little more.