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It's a team game. Having a great QB all by himself isn't enough. He can't block for himself, he can't catch his own passes, he can't pound the rock in the 4th quarter, he isn't going to play special teams, and he isn't going to stop anyone on defense. The Chargers look like this formula a bit so far this year.

 

Arizona is probably a decent example of the reverse, where they have very good talent and a dismal QB situation (although Max Hall played well enough). Minnesota has struggled with Favre sucking so far this year.

 

The Panthers and Bills are good examples of expansion teams.

 

+1 :worthy:

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Moving back to the Bill's most recent HOF QB.

Kelly came to a Bills team which had a top-five offensive line, (name them) a top WR (in 1986, who?) and a solid TE (again, in 1986 who?) before he got here.

The D had a veteran leader NT, Bruce Smith and Darryl Talley.

 

Yeah Smerlas was a veteran leader NT. Offsides!

 

1. Would Kelly have had the same storied career if he had come to the Bills in 1983, before those pieces were in place?

2. Can anyone provide examples of a team which sucked on both lines, and turned things around by drafting a star college QB into the mess?

 

You must have been born in 1982 or later.

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