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Here's the thing. Coles walked away from 6 Million a year guaranteed from the Jets. Now to me, that is a strong clue he just may have wanted more money then that. He came to Buffalo first, and I'm just spit-balling here, but my guess is that he conveyed that desire to Brandon and his circle jerks. No matter what we think Coles might be worth, Brandon knew what needed to be done to sign the guy. I read from "sources" Brandon offered 3 years at 6 Million a year? I'm not a math genius, but that's not more then 6 Million a year, it is the same.
Miami passed, surprised me, I thought for sure the Fins would sign him. But there was good old "cheapskate" Mike Brown, of all NFL owners, willing to give Coles an extra million dollars a year for an extra year in the contract. Who ever thought Mike Brown and the Bengals would "overpay" for a free agent? Small market Cincinnati?
Well, they did not overpay for Coles. They paid the right amount to sign him, according to him and his agent. Sure Brandon, Wilson, the circle jerks and even the vast majority of TSWers out here can sit around and laugh at the money the Bengals overpaid to get Coles. Bottom line? Brandon blew it when he had the chance to "overpay" for Coles himself. And if he would have offered Coles 28 Million dollars last week before he ever left Buffalo and signed him, I'm sure most of the fans out here would be freakin' happy about it, and not mocking out the Bengals right now.
But that's just me.
Have you watched Laverneus Coles play the past couple of seasons? He is nothing special. Certainly not worth 4 years and 28 million dollars. Receivers are a fickle bunch. Very few have great seasons year after year. I don't think the Bills wanted him that badly to get into a bidding war with the Bengals. What is more important is getting Trent Edwards to play like an NFL QB. A good QB can make very mediocre receivers look very good.
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R u suggesting we trade Freddy for Brian Waters?
I would trade Fred Jackson for Brian Waters if we can sign a very capable veteran to replace him. Good O lineman are so much more important than decent running backs. That has been the problem on our team for years is that we have not given the necessary attention to both our lines. Look at the Broncos over the past 15 years. Great O line, with many different DECENT RB's having good season after good season. It starts in the trenches boys.
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Pat Moran insists that Buffalo has not signed Coles, that their offer falls at least a bit short of he wants, that Coles' agent is trying to set up visits with other teams, and that Coles may come back to Buffalo at some point if he can't find something better.
That is a joke. If the Bills are really offering 3 years, 18 mill. to sign Coles, there is absolutely NO teams in the NFL who would pay more for him. The guy is a decent receiver who is a complementary piece to any teams offensive puzzle. A lot of these agents mislead their players into thinking their worth is so much higher than it really is. Laverneus will be waiting awhile if he thinks he will be getting a megadeal from someone.
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Wasn't Pat Thomas a very short CB in the seventies for the Rams and Redskins? Does any remember him? Maybe he got bigger as he got older and now can play LB.
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Personally not a JP hater and Jp is definately better than Fitz, But Fitz might do better here than in concinatti because we are a dink and dunk team and hes a dink and dunk and run guy instead of the throe the ball down field that cincinatti wants and Jp is better at.
Poet, JP was horrible. I don't care what system he plays in, he can not read defenses, can not make quick decisions and his accuracy on short and medium passes is god awful. I have got to believe that Fitzpatrick will be a big upgrade.
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Are the Bills stupid. If he left 6 million behind to look for more, how can they offer that contract???? That's insulting. Do the math. 18 divided by 3 is 6! They offered exactly what he left on the table. What about 3 years for 21 million. This is ridiculous. I don't know what to think anymore
You are ridiculous beast mode. Who in their right mind would pay Laverneus Coles a contract averaging $7 million per year. The guy is a decent 31 yr. old receiver, and nothing more. If he was as awesome as you are inferring from your silly numbers, than don't you think the Jets would have kept him?
Steve Johnson has way more upside at this point in their careers than Coles does. Besides the amount that matters is how much is guaranteed. I am sure the Bills offered at least $8 mill. guaranteed. With some of you on this board, the Bills can do nothing right. If Coles chooses Cinci over us, than good riddence to him.
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Dockery sucked. He underperformed from day 1. This is an excellent start to free agency. You have to get rid of the dead wood before moving forward. The next few days of free agency are going to be very interesting as to how this team is going to look. Does anyone have a list of all the interior lineman who are going to be free agents come tonite? Please post it.
Also, does anyone think that cutting Dockery freeing up more money means a new extension for Jason Peters is imminent? Just a thought to throw out there.
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Come on guys, lets wake up and think about this for a minute. Way too much credence is given to the combine. They don't play football at the combine. They run, lift weights and do drills. Have any of you watched Andre Smith in his career at Alabama? I have not watched him closely, but have heard he was a beast in what is arguably the best conference in America. So because of immature behavior at the combine, he is no longer a great football player? I think NOT!!! What matters is how he plays on the field, not what he does in the confines of Indianapolis.
The Bills can watch the film of how he played and decide from there. If he is that good and will fall to #11, we should trade Peters for high draft picks and take Mr. Smith. And you know what we do with the picks, fill our other needs.
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Per todays' edition.
Owen Daniels TE -Texans. Says FO likes Fine & Schouman but OD is better than both in all aspects
Devery Henderson WR -Saints. Veteran, big play WR due to his speed.
Michael Boley OLB -Falcons. Productive vs. run & pass. At 26, still has much upside (Crowell replacement)
Jermaine Phillips S-Bucs. 7 year vet with a knack for creating turnovers -11 ints., 7 FF since '06. Strong vs. run, well versed in Cover-2 scheme.
This is the first I've heard on any of these players in our wish list. All appear upgrades.
http://today.sportingnews.com/t=c/?1&3...p;DIBSka37cneXn
page 10.
I get so excited the week leading up to free agency. The chance of bringing in some new, better players is definitely cause for hope for even us long suffering Bills' fans. I would be happy with all four of those players. I think we need to look at at least one D lineman and a Center as well in free agency. That will open up many more possibilities on draft day. Henderson would be the best #2 receiver we have had in years if we can sign him.
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This is a great example of the Bills stupidity, which seems to be never ending. Little if anything surprises me any more.
Corners mean more to the Colts than they do to the Bills. They play in a dome where passing conditions are always favorable. The Bills already have McKelvin, MaGee and of course Corner. There is only a certain amount of money to go around wrt free agents. We have no center, no tight end, no depth at guard, and the defensive line is a bad joke. What is the solution for thee dumbasses? Offer huge bucks to an OK cover-2 corner.
So, where does this leave us? If we are outbid, Dick Levy will almost surely draft one in the first round, or at least another safety. If we retain Greer, Ralph will soon cry "cash to cap." I thank God for the other more important things in my life because the idiocy of this team is never ending and hard to bear at times.
Bill, you sound like a smart guy with your posts of "12 things" after every game. You are actually are one of the few people on this board who usually says something intelligent. That being said, posts like these make you come off like a big crybaby. Jabari is a very good player in the NFL. We need good players. Sure we have McGee, McKelvin, Yabouty and Corner, but I guarantee you one or more of these guys will be injured at some point in the season. We can certainly use Greer. We have plenty of room under the cap to keep Greer, and sign many other free agents. It would be a good move to retain him.
The negativity on this board is unbelievable. Why be a fan if you hate the organization so much? I have been a fan forever as well, and am pissed about last season also. But every year brings a new season, and wining over keeping our best cover corner because we have several others who can play the position is stupid. Greer has more upside than Mcgee at this point in their careers. So keeping him over resigning Mcgee after this coming season would seem to be prudent to me.
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Thank you! You saved me from having to post this! Hyanesworth had a great season, but he isn't getting younger, and has a history of underperforming... if I was taking a gamble on a D-lineman, I would much prefer J Peppers... up and down as well, but with much more upside...
What you are saying is just plain stupid. Haynesworth is one of the best if not the best D lineman in the game. Plus he is one mean SOB on the field. If you hadn't noticed we NEED that kind of player. NOONE on our defense plays with a big chip on their shoulder. (Including Marcus Stroud) Put him and Stroud together with Kyle Williams and another young stud as your 3 and 4 D tackles and you have as stout a D line as anyones in the league. We need game changers with attitude. That is why we have not made the playoffs in 9 frickin seasons.. Everyone can rip on the coaches all they want, but look at the lack of talent across the team except at RB. That is the BIG PROBLEM!!! Signing Haynesworth is a step in the right direction!!!
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I always forget how young that he is. This will probably be a good year for the Bills to redo his contract, because honestly, his stock can probably only go up from here.
I would be happy if we traded him. He gets injured a lot because he is too small to play such a physical position trying to always hit much bigger men. Also, he does not make many big or game changing plays. When your biggest play of the year is tackling a receiver 7 yards deep in the end zone, nothing more needs to be said.
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We have invested a huge amount of money already at DE. I don't see us using a first round pick or signing a high end free agent at the DE position, unless we release Kelsay or Schoebel. We certainly have enough other needs to address including C, TE, OLB. Believe it or not, there is a significant likelyhood that we do not address the DE position at all. We also used a 3rd on Ellis last year and Denney is solid.
Lack of a passrush was the biggest problem on the team last year. We have a good secondary. With a decent to good passrush, our defense will be very strong. Look at all of the teams that excell on defense, especially the Steelers. Where does it start? Up front with a strong pass rush. Schobel was not playing well at the time of his injury. He does not dominate games in the slightest. There is no guarantee he will ever regain any type of burst with the severe foot injury he suffered. Kelsay is a terrible pass rusher. Denny is a marginal reserve, and Ellis has showed nothing. Why the hell would we not address the DE position? We are almost 30 million dollars under the cap without even cutting several pieces of dead weight including McCargo, and Robert Royal. Not addressing our D line is totally irresponsible and would show that our management hasn't a clue as to how to build a dominating team.
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The Bills have one player in the top ten of any position, and alot of you want to trade him. Not including special teams, Jason Peters is the only player to crack the top ten. If you really wanted to be clever maybe you could make a case for Terrence. Anybody else, and you are just grasping at straws.
My gosh, I hate reading posts like yours that just gush over Peters. He was not a top ten OT last season. He plays lazy in pass protection a good bit of the time. He is never bull rushed, but watch guys go around him like Joey Porter when he doesn't get out of his stance quick enough. And he takes a large amount of penalties for a supposed "top ten" lineman. And he always seems to miss a few games with "so called" injuries. The guy has been made into something by the media that he is not. I hope we trade him, because he NEVER has put the team first.
Marshawn is definitely top ten RB in the NFL. He plays hard every snap. There is noone better than him inside the ten yard line at sniffing the goal line. If we get a little more solid on the interior of our line, watch out.
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thank you...my point exactly...he put up better numbers as a #3 WR than a #2 WR...
Its also interesting that Breston as the #3 WR in AZ and a rookie managed to top 1000 yards and put a better season than Bryant ever did in the same offense...
First of all, Breaston was not a rookie this past season. He was a second year player. Second of all, look who was throwing the ball to Breaston-KURT WARNER!!! Who did Johnson have throwing him the ball? JT O SULLIVAN and SEAN HILL!!! Big difference, wouldn't you say???
More importantly, we need another veteran receiver. Bryant Johnson while no stud is a decent receiver with some size capable of putting up decent numbers. Having him in the mix with Lee, Josh, and Steve Johnson, and possibly some combo of Hardy and Parrish gives us a much better, and deeper receiving core. I am for bringing in any decent veterans who can help positions of need.
We need more weapons, it is as simple as that. B. Johnson will help our offense.
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The funniest thing about all this is how much praise DJ and staff was getting when we were 5-1 (especially in 4-0 start) about their mid game adjustments and how much better we looked in second half...he was even in running for coach of the year...then what happened?
Well, we lost key starters, including our entire threat of a pass rush in Schobel, 2 corners playing great ball in Greer and Youboty, LB's, OL, Reed, and then Trent severly regressed coming back from injury and also missed more time with new injuries...
So, the overly dramatic cries about DJ get tiresome to be honest. Do I think he is a great coach...NO, but he is not nearly as bad as the fans want to make him out to be. Its about time people start owning up to the fact that there isnt enough talent here at this point. That starts and stops with the lack of a true football GM and not maximizing our drafts...
Go back and look at my posts...When we were 4-0 I said we would have a hard time making the playoffs, especially if we start getting some injuries and if our O Line doesnt play better...well what happened...injuries crushed us on both sides of the ball, we had terrible QB play which had a lot to do with inconsistency at O Line, injuries and Trents clear regression and loss of confidence.
We still won 7 games, and should have won 9 if Lindell doesnt blow the kick and JP doesnt fumble. Heck, if JP doesnt play against SF, we probably win that game too and could have easily been 10-6.
This team needs more talent. And honestly, I dont care if we sign Julius Peppers and bring back Bill Walsh from the dead, we wont win much more until we have MUCH Better QB play from either Trent getting better or someone else replacing him...Our D is no where dominant enough to be able make up for the poor QB play we have been plagued by...
I totally agree. I do not think Jauron is a great coach by any stretch, but our QB play has been mediocre to poor for years. Are the Cardinals and Steelers in the Super Bowl because of their great coaching? NOT AT ALL!!! They have gotten at least very good quarterbacking from Warner and Big Ben, if not great quarterbacking a lot of the time. Both guys are leaders, play with confidence and win games. They also have a lot of very good receivers around them to throw to. Hopefully, the talent level on our team at all positions other than RB will improve substantially. That is the only way we will compete in our division and in our conference for that matter.
Edwards needs to step up bigtime. He needs to start acting like a leader, stop missing so many games with injuries, and start throwing darts all over the field like an NFL Quarterback should do. A little bit of swagger out of Mr. Stanford would not hurt either. Jay Cutler is no better throwing the ball than TE, but he has that swagger that says I am "The Man". Trent needs that in a hurry.
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I thought Marv died. At least he looked that way in the pressbox during the Monday night fiasco against Dallas. Taking a 5'9" safety with the 8th pick of the 2006 draft was a horrific decision.
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He was easily the best player on our defense this year. Look at the weak cast that he plays with! There is not one player in that front seven that could not easily be replaced. He consistantly played on the other side of the LOS and faced double teams. While fan favorites like Poz and Whitner somehow don't face scrutiny, Stroud was the only player that WAS Pro Bowl worthy on this team. PAY HIM!
I agree he was the best player in our front seven. But that is not saying much at all is it? The most talented defender on our roster is Ashton Yabouty. McKelvin has more athletic ability than Yabouty, but is not the corner that Yabouty is at this time.
Stroud is bigtime overrated. He gets absolutely no push on pass rush. He was decent against the run at times. But do you mean to tell me that you thought he played like a beast game in and game out? I think not.
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If we can get a legitimate tight end to throw the 15-20 yard seam pass to like just about every other NFL team does, I think TE has the potential to be good. That big target in the middle of the field who can run is a huge need that this team needs to address.
In addition, we need to start stretching the field vertically regardless of who is our QB. We had the fewest downfield passing attempts in the league this past season. That is a huge reason why our passing game sucks year and year after.....
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I remember hearing something about it and remember Stroud saying something to the effect of "my play will make you want to rework my deal".
He was good this year but I dont know if he was that good was he?
Marcus Stroud had an average year at best. He had some strong quarters, but wasn't nearly a dominant force throughout any entire games except possibly the opener against Seattle. I thought he would have a much stronger presence. I would be very suprised if he received a lucrative extension.
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I went to the Bills-Redskins game last year at FedEx Field. That stadium is huge. The seats go very high up around the entire field. Very nice sight lines. Tremendous stadium. Ravens stadium is very nice as well, although not nearly as big as Fed Ex. Have also been to the Georgia Dome several times. Very sterile place. Domes suck bigtime.
Ralph Wilson stadium is very basic, but the sight lines are solid and the atmosphere can not be beat. Now lets get a winning team to go with the best fans in the NFL.
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His route running is bad, he is slow to understand the pro game, it usually takes a year for a player to get back to 100% full physically and mentally from ACL injuries, and he showed no real promise during his first year. Do you really think he is going to be 100% ready by the start of the season? He also may be a step slower then last year which again won't help his cause.
To me, he's useless and will not contribute next year. I hope I'm wrong but I don't see it.
I totally agree. The guy was useless with two good legs. Now with a bad knee, I would be shocked if he is ready to contribute by opening day 2009. James Hardy looked like he had absolutely no clue on how to get open against NFL defenses. A lot of receivers take time to develop, but the Bills did not have that luxury of having Hardy take his time with understanding the pro game. I blame the organization for not doing enough research on Hardy about how NFL ready he was coming out of Indiana. And than when he came to us, we put no packages in to utilize any strengths he may have.
If Hardy is not going to be ready for 2009, we need another WR and a TE to give Trent or whoever is going to play QB more downfield targets. (The Bills were last in the league in passes thrown over 16 yards in the air according to Mark Gaughn of the Buffalo News.)
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How I feel about the Peters situation is pretty obvious by my signature, but if they plan on keeping him, the extension needs to get done before the offseason conditioning programs. Should he be here the entire offseason, I guarentee there won't be a peep about trading the guy. In person, the dude's probably an a**hole, but has the talent to be better than Will Wolford. Should he be here in top condition, overrated will be a word that isn't used anymore either.
Why do you have such a hard on for Jason Peters? He played horrible most of the year. The guy is not a leader in the slightest. He held out until right before the first game of the season. You want a guy like that setting the pay scale for your team? I think not. He has a tremendously overinflated opinion of himself. He is not overly physical, and he is slow in pass protection when dropping back against speed rushers. (SEE JOEY PORTER) Sure he doesn't get bull rushed, but he isn't nearly as good as you and many others on this board who have drinken his KOOL AID would like to believe.
The Bills should make him a decent offer, but not anything outrageous. If he threatens to stay away again from offseason camps, than definitely try to trade him before the draft. Demetrius Bell will get his chance than to start. I bet you he is better than Peters in the long run. The Peters situation set the tone for this past season, and that was a BAD TONE.
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Even if I agreed with a Peters trade (which I totally do not), you are 100% correct, even if your post was tongue in cheek. Does anybody seriously believe that if Dick Levy got another first round early pick (Peters is easily worth this) he would grab one of the top LTs in this draft? How could any sane person think this? And even if he did, he would use the other pick on a defensive back.
I have a lot of fun between now and the draft. The information and speculation is great, but reality tells us to say hello to a #11 safety. We will have 2 #11s and a #8 in the secondary. After 09, we will probably have a top 5 corner.
The big problem with our team each offseason is that we do not bring in enough impact free agents. This past season we brought in Marcus Stroud (trade), Kawika Mitchell and Spencer Johnson. And noone on offense. For a team coming off two 7-9 seasons, this was not nearly enough. Johnson did nothing. Mitchell is way too slow dropping back and moving laterally. His only asset is rushing the passer. And Stroud while not horrible was far from dominant game in, game out in the middle. He got no push in pass rush, and had his moments against the run. My point is that these guys did not make a major impact.
Right now to be a very competitive team next season, (despite our lack of coaching) we need a Center and at least one more guard, a Tight End, another WR, two more d-lineman, at least one and maybe two LB's and a safety, and of course another QB. That makes 9-10 players. If we could sign at least FIVE GOOD, don't have to be great players in free agency, it would open up so many more options in the draft. Lets hope this team wakes up and tries to be a big time player in free agency.
TO released
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I will take anyone that would make are team better. TO would make our team better, and much more entertaining. Do you think he knows that Buffalo is even a team? That would be awesome if we tried to woo TO with a big fat contract. He would be stunned, and we would be the headline team in the NFL for a short time. Again, anyone who can help our offense is fine by me.