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  1. I never suggested fighting. You can stand up to a bully without it getting physical. It just requires addressing him as an assertive man rather than a whining boy.

    I'm sure that Incognito really would have taken that well. He seems like such a well-adjusted chap.

     

    Fall 2002: Ejected from Nebraska’s game against Penn State for fighting. Was suspended for the first half of a game against Iowa State the following week.

     

    Spring 2003: Suspended by former Nebraska coach Frank Solich for unspecified reasons.

     

    Feb. 2004: Charged with three counts of assault stemming from a fight at a party. Found guilty of one misdemeanor assault charge after a three-day trial and paid a $500 fine.

     

    Sept. 2004: Suspended from Nebraska. Withdrew from university two weeks later. Two weeks after leaving Nebraska, enrolled at Oregon.

     

    Oct. 2004: Kicked off Oregon team. Coach Mike Bellotti said he failed to meet certain conditions.

     

    2005-09: Played parts of five seasons with the Rams. In 44 games, he racked up 38 penalties, including seven for unnecessary roughness.

     

    Training camp 2006: Got into an altercation with Rams cornerback Dwight Anderson. The 6-foot-3, 320-pound Incognito and the 5-foot-10, 180-pound Anderson had to be separated twice.

     

    Nov. 2008: Criticized fans for not knowing how or when to cheer for a team that was 2-8 at the time. Taunted fans who were booing him during a game against the Bears.

     

    2009: Was named “NFL’s dirtiest player” in a Sporting News poll of 99 players. That season, twice head-butted Titans players, and engaged in a verbal altercation with head coach Steve Spagnuolo. Was released two days later. After being released by St. Louis, he finished the year in Buffalo then signed with the Dolphins.

     

    Sept. 2012: Criticized by Houston’s Antonio Smith for dirty play. During a preseason game in 2013, an enraged Smith swung his helmet after being incited by Incognito, which earned Smith a three-week suspension.

     

    June 2013: Involved in an altercation in Miami night club that led to a trespass warning.

     

    Summer 2013: When talking about his time in St. Louis, admitted to NFL.com: “I mean, we’d have practice the next morning, and I’m out until all hours of the night, running the town. Drinking. Doing drugs. I was doing everything that a professional athlete should not be doing.”

     

    nypost.com/2013/11/05/how-richie-incognito-became-nfls-no-1-villain/

     

    do we have any indication that martin hasnt tried telling him to stop?

    Not that I've read or heard.

     

    As an aside it would be interesting if he were gay. Stanford would have Martin, Jason Collins and Kwame Harris out. I don't know why I think that it is interesting but of all the professional athletes out of the closet that would be an extremely high percentage. Typically tolerance and intelligence are linked so maybe that has something to do with it. It is not as big of a deal in their social circle outside of the locker room. Just thinking out loud...

    Interesting point, #47.

  2. I find it curious that some of you feel compelled to argue that the stronger person is the one who let the other guy drive him out of his job and off his team, and the weaker guy is the one that ran him off? I don't see it. A strong man, strike that, a man (period) would put that mother!@#$er in his place or do what was necessary to put a stop to it. Only a coward would turn tail and run like that. I suppose your sympathy for the guy makes you want to take up for him (I feel sorry for him too), and people tend to want to glorify victims (and I think Martin is pretty clearly a victim) but let's be honest, anyone in that position that lets another guy treat him like that and run him off the team is a kitty. Going AWOL and quitting the team isn't the mature, strong, or assertive way of handling that situation, it's the kitty way. A lot of this excuse making sounds like the bullied who never stood up to the bully defending someone else whose behavior mirrors their own.

    Maybe Martin realized that he just doesn't like playing pro football all that much, and he decided to pursue endeavors which he feels are more worldly and stimulating? Maybe he walked away to make a statement? Sorry, but the notion that a "man" must resort to violence when confronted with violence, is pretty simple way of looking at things. Was Gandhi not a "man"?
  3. oooh, I see a juicy Aaron Sorkin movie plot about this. And too bad Stanley Kubrick is dead, so he can't direct it, but they can find a substitute. Who should we cast in it? How about Tom Cruise as the NFLPA investigator, Matthew Modine as Adam Schefter, Jack Nicholson as Philbin and Vincent Donofrio as Martin?

    "you want me on that line! you need me on that line"

  4. I recognize the importance of that play, but I'm not putting the defeat in Chandler's hands, nor am I giving up on him for a new TE. That man has been money in the bank in numerous situations. I still don't know how he ends up uncovered in the front of the end zone every other game--don't teams bother to watch film of the Bills?

    When I watch Chandler, I don't see him doing anything particularly well for a TE - his hands are inconsistent. he doesn't stretch the field well, and he's a below-average blocker. I think that the Bills need an upgrade at TE.

  5. The Goodwin incomplete pass was IN FACT an incomplete pass. The ball never stopped moving. At no point did he ever have full possession, and that was the right, yet unfortunate, call. Refs did not in any way get that wrong, ESPECIALLY since it was ruled incomplete on the field.

    It was initially ruled complete, until another official ran over, and after a conference with the closest official, overruled the original call. Sure looked to me like the ball stopped moving before it was knocked out (which happened the 2nd time the defender contacted Goodwin after Goodwin was on the ground). FWIW, Marrone said that he was told by one of the officials that the ball hit the ground when Goodwin initially went to the ground.

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    The Chiefs had 2 timeouts. The Bills could have forced them to use them.

     

    As for the pick six, if Marrone didn't make that call, he should have. Great coaches take charge when it counts. This is what makes them great.

     

    Right, but it's not as if the Chiefs did anything with the ball on the ensuing possession, and they had shown an inability to move the ball to that point.

     

    I don't know who made the 3rd down call, but, IMO, it's grasping at straws to hold Marrone responsible for a bad play call.

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