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    Dalton Kincaid’s 1st season highlights

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    7 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

    I say you've taken an overly pessimistic view, in several respects.  

     

    He had 670 yards in receptions, which was right around where I expected him to be.  That's a nice total for a rookie, especially for a tight end.  A rookie wideout who starts has an opportunity for some chunk plays that a tight end doesn't get.  So, I'd say his production was pretty good, and I expect it will improve.  

     

    Next, I'd say that "he rarely broke tackles" is unfair.   A large number of his catches were essentially dumpoffs over the middle where he was surrounded by defenders.   He's not a big guy who's going to drag those tacklers.   Still, he always goes down going forward, and he gets just about all the yards he can.  He had several plays where he made a move to avoid a tackler and get extra yards, and in particularly he made several to get the first down.    He's not a great open field runner, but he gets ahead in space before he goes down.  

     

    Drops.  I agree about that.  He's excellent when he's open, but he isn't so good on contested catches.  In a crowd, he doesn't seem to come down with it as often as he should. 

     

    One thing that was apparent was how often Allen's throws were off target.  Some of his drops really were throws where Allen missed the market, and some of his best catches also were on inaccurate throws.  

     

    I agree about bulking up.  He looks like he could carry another ten pounds, and then would make him tougher to bring down. 

     

    I wouldn't call him a disappointment at all.  However, if he's never better than he was as a rookie, I will be disappointed.  My hope for 2024 is that Brady will have a creative passing attack with Diggs, Samuel, and Shakir attacking all over the field, short and long, and with Kincaid finding plenty of holes as the defenders chase the speed guys.  

    You’re certainly entitled to your opinion.

    I'm entitled to disagree. He needs to beef up and work on his moves. I took a completely blind look at his rookie performance. Uneven -even though at times he shined. But Thanks, Dad..

    4 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

    I don't know about breaking tackles, but so many of the catches I've seen are dump off routes where contact his made at the moment of the catch and he still pushes forward for a few more yards. He especially carved out a niche for blitz beaters, as that became a big part of the gameplan near the end of Dorsey.

     

    As a reminder, Gabe Davis was on the blitz beater in the Eagles game. You know the one.

     

    Kincaid has things to work on for his game for sure. He can put on some muscle this offseason and work on his blocking technique, but if you look at Zach Ertz's first two years in the league Kincaid's production is right there.

    This is all I’m saying 🤷‍♂️

    Dalton Kincaid’s 1st season highlights

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    Now for the discussion part. It’s not an overly optimistic highlight reel. He was clearly great in college and Beane wanted this dimension for the team. However, for a pass catching TE, he had numerous drops and very rarely broke tackles. His TD production was -in a word, disappointing. But the pure talent was on display for most of the season. With Knox taking a pay cut recently, Dalton is now clearly TE1. But he can and needs to improve. He is a willing blocker though his relatively slight frame doesn’t scare anyone and is more of a ‘get in the way’ type blocker than physical blocker. While he made numerous eye-popping catches, he underwhelmed in contested catches where his size should have been a benefit. He displays deft footing but he doesn’t use this to break tackles when defenders dive at his lower legs. It was obvious by seasons’ end that if a defender was closing in on him, he was going to be tackled -even though there were opportunities to challenge the tackler with changing speed or direction, stiff arming or lowering his shoulder -something Knox is proficient at.

    I’m hoping these were discussed with him in his end of season meeting with coaches as aspects he needs to improve on. Bulking up a bit is essential, but also hand fighting, better body control to fend off would-be tacklers near him and more gumption/desire to finish the play in the Endzone. 
    Yes, he set team records for catches by a TE and quickly became a starter. But to know the full history of the team, is to know TE has always been an afterthought. I can count on 1 hand our very best TE’s, from Warlick to -well, Knox..

     

    The potential is certainly there, but the necessary upgrades to his skills are on him to develop. To me, he’s kinda like a ‘golly gee! This is great playing in the NFL!’ kid. I’d like to see more of a determined approach to his craft to realize his capabilities at this level. He isn’t there yet.

     

    What say you?

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    Justin Fields traded to Steelers

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    When we played Chicago on Fields’ 2nd preseason game of his rookie season, he was asked how long he thinks it’ll take him to learn the nuances of the pro game and for the game to slow down for him. He said ‘I already know it all and it’s already slow enough for me’. I knew then he wasn’t anywhere near bright enough for this. Certainly, he can run. But he’ll never be completely competent. Too damn dumb.🤷‍♂️ 

    That’s why Chi-town traded him for a bag of jockstraps.

    CURTIS SAMUEL A BILL

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    1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

     

    His entire body of work maybe? Or is it the meth you're taking that makes you think a guy who's been a complementary piece on offense for the last 7 years is going to suddenly emerge and become a bonafide #2 guy? Do you also believe Mack Hollins is the replacement for Diggs as well?

    Ha! No to the 2nd part, but he’ll replace a couple bums we signed recently. Has his ‘entire body of work’ included a star QB? No, so you don’t know what we can expect from a solid veteran experience with his 1st real opportunity to showcase all his skills with a superstar QB. Perhaps not a mythical #2, but 30-35 plays a game will boost his numbers and he’s worthy of it. 
    Now excuse me. My new batch is boiling..

     

    CURTIS SAMUEL A BILL

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    10 hours ago, Bangarang said:

    I think he's similar to Gabe in that he's better suited as a #3 or 4 WR but will not live up to being expected to be a legit #2.

    and you know this ‘how’, exactly? Your crystal ball or your crystal meth?

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    Bills sign Mack Hollins

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    To all our our criers, newsflash; we have zero need at TE. We have our #1 & #3 WR and we have 3 WRs behind them with veteran experience. Then, we have 11 Draft picks in a WR rich Draft year.

    Mow the lawn and chill out.

     

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