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    Browns vs Bills

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    At least JP played with some heart. You could steal Trents lunch, insult his mother and kick his dog, and he'd still say he has to watch the tape.

    B-)

    ugly game so far...

    It's like watching the NFL's version of the South Park Timmy-versus-Jimmy cripple fight.

    Finally a 1 O'Clock game

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    Sorry guys, but I've been lovin' the 4 pm starts. You get all day to spend outside in the nice autumn weather, playing with your kids or playing golf. Then sit down and watch a game as the day starts to wane. I really like having time on Sunday during the middle of the day.

    I used to hate the 4 pm starts, but I'm with you on this one. I can spend the day getting stuff done, spending time with the family, and then settle in to watch the DJ-led Bills embarass themselves.

    Bobby Bowden being forced out at FSU

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    I do like Fisher and what he brings but HE has to get this team ready week to week, not when they want to. I will be willing to five Jimbo enough rope. It will take some time though, recruiting your players and all.

     

    Ponder looks great 1 second then lost the next.He drives you insane. I cant wait to see manual out there. Big time recruit lets see what he can do.

     

    Amato is a great recruiter in Miami where a lot of the studs UF and Um grab come from. The guy has pulled some unreal talent from there int he past and at NC State, its a hot bed that we have to tap back into. i can see how he would but heads but he will get a job as a DC no prob once the year is over.

    I agree with your take on Fisher - to a point. I'd think it's pretty hard to get the team ready to play week to week when you are not THE guy. To me, that responsibility falls on the three guys ahead of him - CA, MA and ultimately, Bobby. Fisher can only do so much.

     

    Ponder has been the most consistent player on either side of the ball. He and Greg Reid have been the best players for the Noles this year, bar none. He has had some moments where the ball sails on him or he holds it a little too long, but overall I have been very impressed with him and his play so far.

     

    I don't know whether Amato is still getting it done in South Fla or not. I really have no clue. I know he's done a great job recruiting there in the past, but I honestly don't follow the recruiting as much as I probabaly should.

    Bobby Bowden being forced out at FSU

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    Quick update after listening to the local sports guy on the way home:

     

    The general consensus among the local witers/sports personalities, etc, who all have sources inside the program is that FSU wanted to make some type of announcement tomorrow that is now being pushed back. Word is that FSU wants Bobby gone this year, but Bobby is going to fight it to the bitter end. This could get ugly.

     

    FSU fans, brace yourself for it, because all weekend douchenozzles like kirk herbstreet are going to be trashing FSU for "treating a living legend so bad."

    Was that on the Jeff Cameron show?

     

    As for the douchenozzles like Herbstriet - who gives a ****. We owe Bobby everything for building this program - everything except the right to tear it down. And he's been given more than enough time to right the ship and get the program back on top.

    Bobby Bowden being forced out at FSU

    in Off the Wall Archives

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    Fisher is the one responsible for bringing Greg Reid to Tallahassee. He wasn't even a target until Jimbo suggested him.

    Yeah, they talked about that in there. I think there were a couple current defensive guys that Fisher closed or recruited, and a couple defensive recruits that he is actively working on.

     

    I agree with the author, it's hard to be taken seriously as the HCIW if you're still underneath Chuck the Chest on the organziational flow chart. But unfortunately even though he doesn't wield as much power as MA or CTC, people are starting to turn on Fisher as somehow already proving that he's a bust and won't amount to much as HC.

    Bobby Bowden being forced out at FSU

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    Yup. We hear this all the time too. There are serious problems between the offensive and defensive coaching staffs, and it's well known that Fisher and Amato hate each other (i can't blame Fisher, given the horrific and undisciplined play by our LBs, but then again, undisciplined play has always been a hallmark of Amato). Amato is going to remain employed by FSU for roughly 4 seconds after Fisher takes over. He'll be the first to go.

     

    But the problems run deep. The offense has been run by Fisher and we're seeing the positive results, especially in the development of Ponder and the WRs. We are seeing the Trickett effect along the OL. However, the defensive side of the ball is still all Bobby's guys, and currently, theres nothing Fisher can do about that.

    Yep. I particularly like the develpoment of Ponder as proof of what Jimbo can do on the offensive side of the ball. We haven't seen a QB progress in a while; rather, we've seen more QBs regress over the last 7-8 years.

     

    Here's an interesting tidbit from an SI article:

     

    According to the ceremonial titles described in FSU's media guide, head coach-in-waiting Jimbo Fisher officially is the fourth-most-powerful member of the staff behind Bowden, associate head coach/defensive coordinator Mickey Andrews and associate head coach/linebackers coach Chuck Amato. This arrangement persists, even though Fisher and hand-picked assistants James Coley and Rick Trickett are the ones convincing most of the better recruits to come to Tallahassee.

     

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writ.../#ixzz0TBVt5fPw

    Bobby Bowden being forced out at FSU

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    No, it isn't a shame. Its time for Bobby to step down. No one is attempting to diminish the great things Bobby did for FSU. He made FSU. He is FSU. His name will always be synonymous with the Seminoles. That being said, his time has run its course. Its time for Bobby to go. His decline started with the loss of Richt (and the utterly stupid decision to promote his idiot son, Jeff, to OC) and has continued to this day.

     

    Mickey Andrews leaves at the end of this year. He's already said so. With his leaving, the defensive side of the ball is ripe and ready for an overhaul. Jimbo should oversee that as the new HC. He's already made great strides on the offensive side of the ball, now its time to see what he can bring to the table as HC. We can't sit here and let this program rot from the inside, which is a real danger if Bobby is allowed to continue coaching. There is a serious disconnect within the coaching staff because of the arrangement, and it is hurting the team on the field. The team we have is more talented than the 2-3 record reflects, and a cohesive, coherent coaching staff is the only way to get the most out of them.

     

    Around here, the overwhelming majority of people not only agree with the Chair of the board, but are also wondering what took so long for a big wig to finally make the call. We all want to thank Bobby for everything he's done, but its time for him to go. Better for him to gracefully accept it and go out in style being celebrated instead of having to be forced out the door.

     

    But its time to move on to the future here at FSU.

    Just to echo a little and add to what you already posted:

     

    Bobby's decline started not only with the loss of Richt, but the utterly stupid decision to draw a line in the sand with the administration and demand that they let him hire Jeff or BB would quit. He bent and twisted the state's nepotism laws to suit his and his family's whims, and then refused to do anything when Jeff's offenses floundered and his recruiting sucked. The boosters had to buy JB out to get that change.

     

    I think Mickey's already checked out. He didn't want to come back this year (or last, IIRC) and Bobby had to ask him to come back. I think Mickey's been done since his son died and he learned that he wasn't going to be the next FSU HC. Jimbo's been doing offensive and defensive recruiting, from what I've read on other boards.

     

    From what I've read, there is a serious rift between the offensive (Jimbo's guys) and defensive coaches (Bobby's guys). There have been whispers of confrontations on airplanes after road games and in front of the team in the locker room, among others. Chuck Amato and Jimbo have reportedly bumped heads a few times, and there's even rumors that Bobby has been undermining Jimbo in an effort to remain relevant.

     

    It's a bad situation all around, and Bobby is in the middle of it. It's time to thank him for everything he's done, give him a cushy job in the administration or boosters, and move on to the next era.

    Bobby Bowden being forced out at FSU

    in Off the Wall Archives

    Posted

    No, it isn't a shame. Its time for Bobby to step down. No one is attempting to diminish the great things Bobby did for FSU. He made FSU. He is FSU. His name will always be synonymous with the Seminoles. That being said, his time has run its course. Its time for Bobby to go. His decline started with the loss of Richt (and the utterly stupid decision to promote his idiot son, Jeff, to OC) and has continued to this day.

     

    Mickey Andrews leaves at the end of this year. He's already said so. With his leaving, the defensive side of the ball is ripe and ready for an overhaul. Jimbo should oversee that as the new HC. He's already made great strides on the offensive side of the ball, now its time to see what he can bring to the table as HC. We can't sit here and let this program rot from the inside, which is a real danger if Bobby is allowed to continue coaching. There is a serious disconnect within the coaching staff because of the arrangement, and it is hurting the team on the field. The team we have is more talented than the 2-3 record reflects, and a cohesive, coherent coaching staff is the only way to get the most out of them.

     

    Around here, the overwhelming majority of people not only agree with the Chair of the board, but are also wondering what took so long for a big wig to finally make the call. We all want to thank Bobby for everything he's done, but its time for him to go. Better for him to gracefully accept it and go out in style being celebrated instead of having to be forced out the door.

     

    But its time to move on to the future here at FSU.

    ^^^What he said.

    A Few Thoughts About The Game

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    The stats have been put out there. The number of passes to RBs and TEs BLOWS AWAY how many times he throws to WRs.

     

    In a Tim Graham thread there were stats regarding Trent only attempting 8 passes beyond a measly 20 yards. Hit only hit on 2 out of the 8 by the way!!!!

    I saw the Tim Graham thread and breakdown of TE's passes by yardage, but I've never seen a breakdown of how many times he's thrown at individual players. If you have a link I'd appreciate it.

    A Few Thoughts About The Game

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    How many WRs can catch the ball if it's NOT thrown to them???? Tell me that! Why does Reed catch 3rd down conversions??? Because Edwards throws him the ball on 3rd down.

    I liked ESPN's breakdown of Captain Checkdown's inability or refusal to throw downfield, so I'm hoping they can do a breakdown of how many times Trent has thrown to Reed, Evans, Owens and then to the backs and TE's. Heck, I'd settle for a positional breakdown, so we can see how many times he dumps off to RB's or TE's. My gut says that the numbers will bear out what we all see with the naked eye, but I'd like to see it in black&white.

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