Sig1Hunter
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13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
There we go again with the personal attacks.
David Grossman is a sociopath. If I had to point to one person responsible for the cult of violence within the police department, he'd be a great place to start.
You’ve obviously never read any of his books. They are filled with fact. You, on the other hand, are full of *****.
Man up. You talk the talk, you can walk the walk.
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13 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
It seems we're finally starting to find common ground. What they've been taught through "Killology: the scholarly study of the destructive act" and qualified immunity is indeed a massive part of the problem.
Lol.. not only an hour ago you were talking about how cops need to be trained in psychological tactics... and here you are bagging on LTC Grossman, who is a psychologist that trains cops. You really are a joke.
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5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
Why would you want that? I wouldn't want that.
Thats because you are a selfish coward.
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25 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
Might want to avoid parking your car in LA?
I would much rather go out like that, than live like you.
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6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
No, I think that techniques based on an understanding of human psychology might. Maybe they should keep doing it like they did, though. It seemed to work well.
In fact next time you don't get a satisfactory result anywhere you happen to be, just try repeatedly yelling what wasn't already effective and then start amping up the threats. I'm interested in your results.I agree that they asked too many times. Ask - tell - make. Repeatedly giving the same commands and hoping for a different response is poor tactic. Good luck in all your future endeavors. Might wanna avoid helicopters though.
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2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
What about your post is funny? How about damn near all of it?
From your claim that the video refutes my stance instead of provides evidence that it's indeed true that cops have poor training and poor character,
To the accusation that I'm somehow a POS for sharing pictures videos and reports of violence police committed. How are they not the POS?,
To The notion when they did everything they could, including practically begging, a guy to comply when video evidence shows them screaming at him before assaulting him,
To the notion that you contradict yourself seconds later by stating you've been in that exact situation many times 'Repeatedly threatening force, and hoping for compliance",
To the notion that you somehow see yourself as doing a noble thing by threatening another person while they are the bad guy for "formulating a plan" prevent your threat of force
What would I have done differently to de-escalate the situation? Almost everything.
In my opinion from based on what I can see on the video, the officers did everything they could to make their suspect feel like a cornered animal
Once it became clear that the suspect was unwilling to comply, I would have utilized far different techniques in an attempt to gain compliance.
I would have utilized a far less threatening tone and manner of speech,
I would have refrained from shining a high lumen flashlight in his eyes,
I would have heard him out without interrupting him unless I had to
I would have tried to empathize with his situation and showed him how I understood
I would use that relationship to help him understand what I needed to do and why- setting limits
Any one of those things would have drastically changed the entire tone of the conversation and the interaction. Using the approach that you treat everyone like a criminal is dog****. It results in innocent people being harassed and assaulted, escalates potential conflicts into realities, and worst of all it doesn't even work when the person actually is a criminal or with a person that has the capability for violence - in self preservation or otherwise.As they say, when all you've got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
So, just to clarify, you think asking the convicted felon with a gun hidden under his seat in pretty please tones is going to gain compliance? What world do you live in?
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From the news that is shocking to no one (except the Minneapolis City Council) department:
”But for much of the two-hour meeting, council members told police Chief Medaria Arradondo that their constituents are seeing and hearing street racing which sometimes results in crashes, brazen daylight carjackings, robberies, assaults and shootings. And they asked Arradondo what the department is doing about it.
"Residents are asking, ‘Where are the police’?” said Jamal Osman, newly elected council member of Ward 6. He said he's already been inundated with complaints from residents that calls for police aren’t being answered.”
“The number of reported violent crimes, like assaults, robberies and homicides are up compared to 2019, according to MPD crime data. More people have been killed in the city in the first nine months of 2020 than were slain in all of last year. Property crimes, like burglaries and auto thefts, are also up. Incidents of arson have increased 55 percent over the total at this point in 2019.”-
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4 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:
You don’t argue with Communists.Theres no merit to it.
What *you* can do, is look away when those of us who can do something toss them out of helicopters.
If you get thirsty and need a bottle of water, or two... just let me know.
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23 minutes ago, Rob's House said:
He can't answer. They won't say it outright, but the only logical conclusion that can be drawn from the leftist position is that anytime a suspect refuses to be arrested the cops should let him go.
I know. It was a rhetorical question. He’s an example of the worst of us, mocking the death of one of the best of us. I’m willing to bet he harbors a certain amount of jealousy that Sgt Johnson had thousands honoring his memory at his funeral, with countless other standing roadside in honor of him... knowing full well, when his day comes, the pews will be empty and he will be forgotten and without a legacy.
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1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:
They did everything that could to end that situation in bloodshed. I'm shocked it didn't escalate sooner.Answer my question. What would you have done?
and what about my post was funny?
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6 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:
and here's what happens when you let an uncivilized animal get back into the car.You end up shot.
Should have put him down when they had the chance.
This video is the perfect example to refute EVERYTHING that POS bullbuchanan claims cops to be. They did everything, practically begging that guy to comply. And, to their detriment. I’ve never seen that video until just now, and emotions are coursing through my blood right now - I’m sad at the sounds of a police officer screaming in terror. I’m angry that he gave up his life, and his family gave him up because of some worthless piece of ***** didn’t want to go back to jail. I’m scared because I’ve been in that exact situation many, many times before. Repeatedly threatening force, and hoping for compliance. In the end, all it does is make things worse. The bad guy formulates a plan. Stall and stall and stall. You can literally see it and hear it in his repetitive statements. That sergeant clearly didn’t want to use force. In the end, his hesitation to act cost him everything. Ask. Tell. Make. Easier said than done, because the vast majority of cops don’t want to use force. But, this video is a sad and terrible reminder of the ramifications when you don’t do it. RIP Sergeant Johnson.
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4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:
Apparently, they've got the guy who shot the LA County sherriffs surrounded in a barricaded house.
May God have mercy on him, because the LAPD won't.
Where are you hearing this? I hoping its accurate, but I dont see any info on it
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5 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
This is what I'm talking about. They exercise no skills in de-escalation but rather escalate the situation. Is the suspect a scumbag? Without a doubt, but they also know that having interacted with him in the past directly.
Their process for getting him to comply with what they want is to repeat the same thing at him over and over again, which clearly doesn't work. Not very bright, but not escalating. The suspect is still not at all aggressive.They then escalate the situation by yelling at him, thinking that'll probably work. It doesn't.
The suspect is still not at all aggressive.
They then escalate more and threaten him with violence via a taser - when that doesn't work they add yelling
The suspect is still not at all aggressive.
They then escalate again by tasing himThe suspect becomes defensive but doesn't attack
They escalate again by macing himhe still doesn't attack them and pleads for them to stop screaming for help
They mace him again and wrestle him out of the car at which point he shoots them.
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If you think that's a great way to get a favorable result, that's the problem. To use it as justification for why police should attack first and ask questions later is beyond ignorance. If you consider yourself a person that always follows the law, and in the event you were accused of not doing so you'd be fully compliant, I can see how you'd take the side of the officers here and just naturally assume that they did everything correctly. Maybe according to the police handbook they did - or maybe they weren't even aggressive enough.
Looking objectively at the situation though where they were in a stop with a person chronically in trouble with the law, I find it mind boggling that they would attempt to use escalating forms of violence and think that they aren't going to end up with a violent result for somebody. They pushed this guy inch by inch to be the worst person he could be.
Nobody had to die there.I'm not going to say that they caused themselves to get shot. After all another person chose to do that to them. However, watching that training in action makes it pretty clear why we're in the situation we are right now with police brutality.
I call you a liar. Prove it. Statistics don't care what you believe.
So, what would you have done? You have professed expertise in de-escalation. What would you have done?
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9 minutes ago, whatdrought said:
One final thought on the Jets game:
Is Henry Anderson tired of watching Josh Allen run into the endzone yet? Also, screw that guy.
Lol i swear watching the replay of that play that Josh - for a split second - thought about tossing the ball at Anderson.
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1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said:
Is this legit? I’m in NY stateDude, the cop told you to show and court and he would help you out. If you have the time, i would follow his suggestion. If he doesn’t show, you win. If he shows, hopefully he can work with you and get the fine knocked down or the points removed. The ticket clinic is a rip off (i have a good friend who is an attorney with them) unless you just flat out don’t have the time to go to court yourself. They won’t do anything that you can’t do yourself.
if you have a horrid driving record, i’d prob just pay it. The judge can jack up your fine in court if they want to.
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1 hour ago, Gugny said:
I have a golf ball-sized dent in my front quarter panel.
There is no paint damage at all. I can't push it from behind.
I'm asking if anyone has experience with this as a quick DIY project. I know they sell gadgets that are made to pop them out, but I'm wondering if anyone has any decent life hacks that will save me time and money.
I bought this car brand new literally NINE DAYS AGO.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
Is this at all related to the bicyclist/bike path thread? I think its important that we all understand so that we dont unwittingly become accessories after the fact of you mowing down a bicyclist that was hogging the road.
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29 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:
There is a small percentage of fans that disliked Allen before he was drafted, purely because some media pundits labeled him bad. And they can’t let that go.
thank god we have Allen over Darnold, mayfield, or Rosen...
Lots of em in this video.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:
Unfortunately, I don’t think they care.... unless it costs them elections.
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24 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:
So your apparently offended on something not involving you. Nice! A+ rating
Honestly, I’m more offended by your grammar. But, carry on with your douchebaggery!
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5 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:
Ya could just watch Australian Rules Football and not bother us
Because his/her perspective is that offensive to you? Nice! A+ rating, sir! Would buy again!
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3 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said:
Nothing about covid made any logical sense since day 1. This is the "new normal" of random rules at random times based on random numbers.
Kinda off topic but your post reminded me of watching the Notre Dame / Duke game today. These guys just got done playing 60 minutes of full contact football. They celebrated, screamed, and slapped each other’s butts. Yet, at the end of the game during ND’s traditional singing of the Alma Mater, the players were spread out across the field... and Tirico says “they need to remain socially distanced”. I just laughed. Seriously? Random rules, at random times. Makes no sense.
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20 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
6 pages. I'm betting that by page 13 both sides will find a rational compromise and we can all get back to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
... and football? I’ll high five any of you guys in the stands at a Bills game.
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Geeeez... do you know how much a man that size has to drink to get a BAC of .113? A lot!
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21 minutes ago, Bill Lewes said:
or we could look at what happened 19 years ago, and ask why many Americans don't think those cops would run into a burning building for them . . .
They would, and they do. It’s just not covered with the same amount of veracity as 5 seconds of grainy video with no context.
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Female dog names
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No one has suggested Rose, Blanche, Dorothy, or Sophia yet? What better name for a golden girl?