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Those aren't the facts, thats the testimony of a media savvy husband and wife fully aware of what a conviction could mean to both of them. As for the verdict imagine what Jim Kelly would have to do to get a Buffalo jury to convict him.
For the facts I'll lean toward the 911 tape, eye witness, police photos and detective testimony, things and people with nothing to lose.
How about this account of the trial from the Houston Press:
Felicia's story opened shortly after noon on Tuesday, July 18, when three of her four children were away at camp in San Antonio. She had just returned from the dentist with Jeffrey (who had gotten a shot there -- maybe another reason "is going to" didn't come through clearly) and had repaired to her back yard gazebo for the afternoon session of her two-a-day half-hour Bible studies.
Mr. Moon showed up shortly. He had spent the night away from home, Mrs. Moon related, and she didn't know where and didn't ask (okay, here's where the Honeymooners analogy breaks down). Anyway, without so much as a howdy-do, the Moons picked up where they had left off arguing on the previous Sunday -- subject left unspecified by Mrs. Moon. Whatever that debate was over, the issue before the heads of the Moon household on Tuesday quickly became money, and it was an issue that Mr. Moon was looking to resolve before he left the following weekend for Vikings training camp. He told Mrs. Moon she was spending too much, and he demanded all her credit cards back so he could combine all future spending-by-plastic on just a single card, a VISA Gold.
Mrs. Moon testified she wasn't about to give up her credit cards, at least not without a fight.
"You are such a jerk -- I can't stand you," she said she angrily told her skinflint husband. Ever cool, just as he remained behind the Oilers' sagging offensive line, Mr. Moon observed, "Okay, this is getting out of hand E." The dispute accelerated quickly from there, according to Mrs. Moon.
At some point in the quarrel, and it was unclear from her testimony at exactly which point, Felicia Moon was in fear and kept repeating, "Jesus just help me, Jesus just help me." Then her testimony turned even more confusing: what was making her afraid, she seemed to say, was the prospect of really losing her temper. She had learned in therapy to watch for those "signals." But there was another reason for her fear: "I thought that he might hit me," she said of her husband.
Why? asked the prosecutor.
"Because it's happened before," Felicia Moon replied.
In later testimony, however, the former English major said her husband really hadn't ever hit her -- it was more "pushing and shoving" and "brushing against" her.
Whatever the case, the argument on July 18 quickly moved from the back yard to the couple's bedroom. Warren Moon went to his closet and started packing to spend another night out. Felicia Moon went to a drawer where she kept what she described as her "excess" credit cards. "I said 'Here's your !@#$in' credit cards,' " she testified, "and I threw 'em at him."
He said, "Thank you," which so irritated Mrs. Moon that she stormed into the bathroom, grabbed a good-sized candleholder, and, proving that unerring aim runs in the family, hurled it directly into Mr. Moon's back. "He stood up and said, 'You B word, are you crazy?' " Mrs. Moon recounted. "I knew I had hit my mark."
Felicia Moon said she then tried to scramble out the bedroom door, but her husband ran her down and grabbed her by her dress, whereupon she wheeled around and kneed him in the groin. In doing so, she tripped and fell backward and ended up on the floor, where her husband grabbed her, told her "she was losing control" and tried to rein in her flailing arms and legs. Part of the calming process also involved Mr. Moon's raising his hand to hit her and hollering, "Stop it! Stop it!" but he didn't carry through, she said. In trying to bring her under control, Felicia Moon testified, her husband also pressed on her throat, but when she began coughing and he realized he was choking her -- she's an asthmatic -- he let off.
That gave Mrs. Moon another opportunity to make a break for it. She was off and running again, but once again, her husband grabbed her, once again she ended up on the floor, once again her arms and legs were flailing and once again Warren Moon was trying to bring her under control.
"I was reaching for him -- we both tried to grab each other," was the way Mrs. Moon described it as she got down on the floor of the courtroom with prosecutor Elliott and demonstrated.
But Felicia Moon was not to be brought under control. She ran to the front door and he ran to the laundry room to confiscate her car keys. From there, the argument/chase continued on the street outside, where, Mr. Moon testified, she was "not so much scared as combat-ready."
Somehow, then, Mrs. Moon next ended up in her Lexus on Lake Olympia Parkway and then Highway 6, with Mr. Moon following in his Lexus. Although one eyewitness estimated their speeds at close to 90 mph, Felicia Moon says her Lexus never got over 75. Finally, she lost Mr. Moon and drove to a Dairy Queen to call a friend before returning home to find that her housekeeper had summoned the police.
And that was pretty much her story. At no time did she say her husband had actually hit her that day. Those scratches and bruises that were clearly visible in the photos might have been self-inflicted, she said.
After Elliott had finished with Felicia Moon, Hardin stepped up to elicit that dramatic denouement from his client's wife.
It seems the district attorney had unearthed a 1986 divorce petition Felicia Moon had lodged in which she claimed that Warren Moon had physically attacked her on three occasions -- including two days before the divorce filing, when he "beat her with closed fists in the presence of the children." The suit was never pursued and was dismissed the following year. Felicia Moon told Hardin she was "outraged" when she learned the prosecution might use the suit during her husband's trial, because it would bring up "a time in my life I would rather not remember."
It was a time in her life, she said, when she had been "diagnosed with an illness," which she later referred to even more elliptically as "the very dark secret from my past."
What happened last year, she continued, "was dŽjà vu of what happened ten years before. I had already drove a car in the midst of anger, and smashed into a brick wall."
And so, on July 18, her husband didn't intend to hurt her, she testified.
"I'm thinking he was trying to keep me from injuring myself -- trying to keep me from smashing into another brick wall."
Following Felicia Moon's first day on the stand, Rusty Hardin called her the most compelling witness he'd seen in his 20 years of practicing law. Nobody could watch her performance, he added, and come away thinking that she was anything but a strong, independent woman who thinks and does for herself.
Inarguably, that was the impression left by Felicia Moon. She was smart, funny and self-possessed, and she consistently got the better of it with prosecutor Elliott.
But the story Felicia Moon told so confidently said something else entirely: that she's a fragile, perhaps unsound woman who can't control her emotions or her spending, a woman who needs her husband to keep her in line, wherever he had been the night before.
That's okay. Felicia Moon certainly is under no obligation to you, me or the battered women of the world to be anybody but who she wants to be. Her critics, she said, "want me to be something that I'm not, and I don't want to let them do that to me."
On the other hand, I must concede, the Fort Bend County district attorney was under no obligation to confirm Felicia Moon's conception of herself and her marriage. Somebody called the cops. There was evidence of an assault. The law now allows the state to force a woman a testify against her husband. The D.A.'s office used it.
In the end, though, the prosecution obviously was not well-served by the new law. Even though the state, as of this writing, had yet to rest its case, it's difficult to imagine any jury convicting Warren Moon on the evidence that had been presented. Hardin was so confident that he vowed to jump off of the Empire State Building if the jury found against his client.
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Pro-football star, Warren Moon, former quarterback of the Houston Oilers and Minnesota Vikings was charged with domestic violence assault in July 1995. The case captured national attention as his wife, the alleged victim, Felicia Moon did not want to testify or pursue charges.
The prosecution forced Felicia Moon to testify after the Texas Legislature amended and limited the "husband-wife" privilege. Prior to the change in the law, a spouse could elect not to be a witness for the state to testify against the other spouse.
"The couple said they scuffled at their home July 18 after an argument over credit cards provoked Mrs. Moon to throw a 2-pound candle holder at Moon's back. Mrs. Moon ended up with scratches and bruises around her neck and shoulders. Moon said that he was probably responsible for the injuries but that he was trying to calm his wife, not harm her.
Mrs. Moon likewise insisted her husband never intended o hurt her. She had pleaded with prosecutors to not press charges but was forced to take the stand under a 1995 law eliminating the right to refuse to testify against one's spouse. More than 40 states have eliminated the spousal privilege."
Terri Langford, Associated Press, February 23, 1996.
It took the jury merely 27 minutes to acquit Warren Moon of the assault.
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I guess he's ruled out being an agent, too! I was Googling around and found this link. I'd completely forgotten about his association with Mr. Mexico....
Their relationship didn't last very long, apparently.
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Why should he waste his time doing that? Life's too short for that sh--, if you've got other options.
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I just cant figure out why Monk is on the finalist list and not Andre Reed.
Monk was a 3-time Pro Bowler in a 16 year career. As a WR, he only had 68 TDs. With that small amount of TDs, that puts him around #30 on the all-time WR list. In fact, if you compare Monk to Reed, Andre has him beat in every single vital category. Both played 16 seasons so its easy to compare.
Pro Bowls:
Monk: 3
Reed: 7
Receptions:
Monk: 940
Reed: 951
Receiving Yards:
Monk: 12,721
Reed: 13,198
Yards Per Catch:
Monk: 13.5
Reed: 14.0
TDs:
Monk: 68
Reed: 88
Soooooooooooooooo...why is Monk on the finalist list and Reed is not? I will really be insulted if Monk gets in before Reed does, it just doesnt make sense any way you look at it. The only thing I can think of is that Monk was on a team that won the SB...but Reed did have better playoff stats, so that should also count for something.
I guess I dont have a big problem with Monk making the Hall...but not before someone more deserving than him, thats all.
TD's per passes caught:
Monk: 1 for every 13.8 passes
Reed: 1 for every 10.9 passes
You beat me to the stats work, but here are some links for everyone to compare the two:
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Too many Hot Pockets owners, fans, sponsors, etc.
Vince probably would have been fired after going 7-5 in his first season in GB under today's expectations!
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By the way, has this even been confirmed? If I'm not mistaken, Grimm is also the assistant HC for the Steelers. He's interviewing with the Lions this week, and perhaps other teams as well, for HC. Not saying it's impossible, but I just don't see us landing him as offensive coordinator.
Yeah, he's got the Assistant HC title, so it seems a little odd that he's consider an OC opportunity in Buffalo when he could have the head job in Detroit, Green Bay or New Orleans...unless he thinks those teams suck too bad and he could be the HC in Buffalo in 6-12 months!
My other thought is that he's just looking for some good TD jokes that he can use to loosen up Cowher and the team this weekend...
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With absolutely zero trickery. Trick plays are for the birds, and that's why Steelers offensive assistants are hot commodities for HC jobs.
Well, that....and the fact the Stillers ranked fifth in rushing this year!
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I agree, he'll be the Lion's HC. I get a kick out of the "knowledgeable" opinions of him in this thread...
Looks like Whisenhunt is getting some play as well.
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Well....Parcells, Gibbs and Johnson might agree with that assessment!
Now, now...just having fun. Sam knew how to move the ball back in the day, but I'd just as soon not have his jail break offense with the Bills current personnel. I like Mike Heimendinger's ball control/keep the D off the field philosophy more (see my post above).
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I sort of find that a knock on Sam...he had a fast strike offense that did nothing to help his defense. I thought the point was to win...
Defensive Rank (total yards)...W-L
1991___28 (dead last)....3-13
1990___25.......................9-7
1989___14.......................8-8
1988___17.....................12-4
1987____7.....................4-11
1986___20.................... 10-6
1985___21.......................7-9
1984___12.......................8-8
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Just to keep this thread on point:
EAST RUTHERFORD — Tom Coughlin and Tiki Barber may not have kissed, but at least they made up on Monday. As the rest of the Giants packed away their belongings, Coughlin and Barber huddled in the coach's office. During a short film review of Sunday's 23-0 playoff loss to Carolina, Coughlin explained to Barber — probably in sterner tones than either admitted — that Coughlin and offensive coordinator John Hufnagel were not outcoached, as Barber asserted right after the game.
Well, there goes your MVP, Tiki....
"I don't think we were outcoached," Manning said. "We were outplayed. We only had 35 plays, and that's not enough to do anything."
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An arcane reference to the non-call on Bebee when he stepped on the line on his TD in the "greatest comeback" game, perhaps...
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Yes, I was talking about the OC position as well.
My point was that SW doesn't have the most stellar winning tradition behind him at Cincy and TB (although working for Bill Walsh is a big plus). He may be an offensive innovator, but all things being equal, I'd rather hire folks whose experiences and every day environment make winning an expected and natural part of their BAU approach, rather than a sometime thing.
No slam on Sam, but I was comparing his experience with that of Russ Grimm, who played for one of the most successful teams of his era (4 SB apparences and three rings) and has coached on teams with high winning percentages.
11 years as a player---0.699% winning percentage
9 years as a asst. coach---0.604% winning percentage
20 years in NFL---only two losing seasons---0.656% winning percentage
Lori...where's your rebuttal??
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I'm interested in Mike Heimerdinger, the Jets' OC. He spent 5 years as the Titans OC before going to the Jets in 2005. Looks like he's gonna get lost in the shuffle with Edwards leaving and the Jets pursuing Eric Mangini, the Pats DC....
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http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/article...nator100106.php
Jim Zorn sounds like a real possibility here. JP's style of play actually is very similar to the way Zorn played. I remember that Zorn used his feet to make a whole lot of big plays when he was in the league. I'm sure he's learned a ton being in Seattle, especially about the need for a great running attack. This might be the perfect candidate if a proven guy like Norv Turner isn't willing to come over here.
I think Mike Heimerdinger's interesting, too. He wants to be a HC, but it looks like the Jets are going after Eric Mangini from the Pats.
Heimerdinger has a nice background with the Titans and Broncos and might find the Bills to be a good landing spot for an experienced OC with HC aspirations. WM reminds me of Eddie George to some extent, so Heimerdinger with a better O-line might be a good fit:
he subscribes to the philosophy that a team's best defense is sometimes its offense. His goal is not only to score, but to maintain long, back-breaking drives that keep the opposition's defense on the field and wears it out. While big plays are nice, six- and seven-yard passes and a solid ground attack keep both the chains and the clock moving, and that's what running an offense is all about.
"You just want to stay in a rhythm," says Heimerdinger, the new offensive coordinator for the New York Jets. "You want to keep the defense running and keep it on the field."
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Quote of the Day!
'"I about got ran out of town my first year and to be at this point is amazing," Moorman said upon learning he made the Pro Bowl.'
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If Brett Maxie is any indication, it looks like whoever it is will cheap and inexperienced.
Marv should be building the best staff possible, not hiring guys on a shoestring.
If MM has significant input, is he suffering from Teflonitus and looking to hire a staff which does not threaten his position?
I look at the Maxie interview the same way the Texans probably did about JG and their HC opening...a cursory look-see with no real chance / expectation of being hired.
I can't see Marv counseling MM to go with a first-time coordinator, given the task at hand. And if anyone can convince Ralph to pay up for a proven coordinator, its Marv.
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Not sure I want another rookie coodinator getting on-the-job training. I'd prefer a proven commodity, even though it will be expensive.
I think we should get Clark Kent as QB
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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...And he could fly around the world so fast he could reverse time and tell Bruce DeHaven to kick the ball deep, keep Thurman from losing his helmet, make Kelly hand off to Thurman more, tackle Mark Bavaro.....