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OGTEleven

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  1. I think the issue of the thread was the father's "right" in the decision to abort (or, for that matter, to give birth.).  The right to decide whether to give birth is still a right.  Would it make a difference if the woman were raped, or was incapable of choice in an abortion situation?  That is, the woman didn't participate in a "pattern of choices?"  Assuming arguendo that in any case the fetus is a person the choices if any that the woman made would be irrelevant.

     

    I think as a legal matter the choice in any case is still that of the woman.

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    You brought the word "choice" into the thread, not me.

     

    My post really doesn't have much to do with the overall abortion argument. My point is that the term "choice" is misused. In the vast majority of cases it has nothing to do with choice. I'm not too good at predicting things in general, but it was pretty easy to predict you'd say "what about rape?".

  2. The "Smurf Turf" has been in place since 1986 and is a kick to play on. When you are standing on the sideline, all you can see of the opposing team is just their heads because of the curvature/incline  of the field. That field is hard as a rock when you go down and rug burns are very common. You can actually use tennis shoes instead of cleats.  Played on it twice when in high school.

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    I caught a highlight this year and it looked to e like they changed it to the newer variety "Astroplay" type stuff. Did they?

  3. Not that I know of.  Think of it though.  If the father had a say in the abortion decision it would be a two way street.  Can a father decide to have an abortion if the mother decides not to have one?  Of course not.  And he shouldn't.  The mother has a right to her body, and a right to make bad choices with it.  The state has some legal interest at a point. (Roe v. Wade). The father doesn't, at least not until the child's birth.  How would you enforce a right given to the father?  Imprison the mother and force her to go through childbirth? Frankly I'm from the school of thought that a person does in fact have a right over their own body.

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    I shouldn't do this but here I go. My question is actually an honest one about your opinion. I will admit that I'm only writing it because I get annoyed by the phrases "a woman's right to choose" and/or "a right to her own body". Here's why and here are my questions:

     

    If a woman chooses not to:

     

    Be on the pill and/or

    use another type of contraceptive and/or

    make herself aware of the failure rates of said contraceptives and/or

    withhold sex from her partner until a condom is used and/or

    refrain from sex altogether because of its potential consequences, does it not

     

    establish a pattern of choices the woman has already made?

     

    All choices big or small, determine the future. This is true whether we want it to be or not.

     

    In general pro-life people are pro-life because they believe the baby is a separate person. This separate person would not have been created in the first place had not several choices already been made by the mother (and father). Once it has been created, if you believe it is a person, then the "choice" argument is ridiculous (IMO). If you do not believe it is a person, then there is an argument to be made for abortion I guess, but it isn't really an argument about choice, is it?

  4. Well...in absolute terms, it's pretty damned stupid.

     

    But given that Kerry's entire campaign platform seems to be built on "Bush sucks, I'm not Bush!", it's entirely consistent (hey, Kerry was consistent!  Will wonders never cease...) and a pretty smart way of appealing to his core electorate...when who he REALLY needs to work on is the undecided moderates.

     

    You know the old adage about how you give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters and they eventually reproduce Shakespeare's works?  Kerry's campaign strategy: three monkeys, one old IBM Selectric...    :devil:

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    Did Shakespeare use proportional spacing?

  5. Sorry at one time I thought the Electoral college was they way to go.  However with these now FIXED red and blue states your vote only counts if you live in a battelground state.  It is time for some major revamping of our political system.  We must get rid of Bills that have all types of other things attached it should be single issue bills prevents the pork pile on. With current system I vote for a new law and tacked on somewhere in fine print is support for/against ( fill in blanks)  Voting records of folks in congress can be twisted in any ways, I can attack the most conservative folks by saying they voted against a conservative thing etc.  The Electoral college is no longer a proper mechanism it should be a simple majority which will encourage folks in non battleground states to express their liberty and vote.    Today voter turnout is at its lowest since many folks feel their vote doesnt count.  We must also institute term limits, the founding fathers didnt ever think folks would be career ploticians the idea was to serve and than return home.  The two party system we have today and control it has over the process makes it impossible to reform to a modern form of government that is more reflective of the information age etc.

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    Would you also like to eliminate the US Senate? That is the mechanism for dividing States' powers in the legislative branch. How do you think Maine and North Dakota would like that? Should they still have the right to secede since the terms on which they joined the union have been changed? Should we just remove their right to secede while we're at it?

  6. I didnt hear it today but don't need to. Biden would make a terrific candidate and likely President. He is my favorite guy out there, and has been for quite some time. He must have skeletons in his closet somewhere because I really can't believe the DNC didn't and doesn't see it. He had a failed bid one or two elections ago but this time, this place, with all the war and foreign affairs stuff, he should be the guy. He's extremely smart, passionate, articulate, can get to the core issue in a second, willing to be straight forward, etc.

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    I'm pretty sure he had an issue with pagiarism in one of his runs. I doubt that would be enough to keep him out on its own.

     

    Maybe 2008 will feature Biden v Rudy v an 3rd party Trump in an all time combover battle for the presidency.

  7. Good point. Except that BF is an equal opportunity critic. And hasn't posted anything on the discussion RE the ANG service/memo except to say it's stupid. 

     

    Try again.

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    I think the old guys are getting into the cooking sherry.

     

    This thread is/was about the Florida ballot. How does the ANG thingy relate?

     

    My point was that BF (who reminds me of JA), claims to be a conservative. Despite this, he consistently talks down to the conservatives on the board and criticizes republicans. His criticism of R's is all well and good and is often valid. It is rare in my experience that he ever criticizes a liberal poster, a dem, or even acknowledges they deserve criticism. I find this odd. My guess is that he either finds it erudite or antagonistic (read: fun). From my POV he is wrong either way.

  8. Funny. The Republicans and Democrats do everything they can to make sure there are ONLY two parties. Now that one of them takes advantage of the system they both sowed, it's the Dems that are the bad guys.

     

    Also funny that Republicans are trying to get Nader ON the ballot in many states. That's stand-up politics.

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    Imagine someone typing about current events on a current events based board. The nerve. He actually posted about the current day's news item instead of researching something that happened 20 years ago so that he could blame the republicans.

     

    What a lemming. He, should learn that despite touting himself as a conservative, he should only criticize republicans. That along with a profound moniker and avatar could make him look erudite.

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    McGahee ran very well, but a good RB with fresh legs in the 4th quarter vs. a run D that has been pounded by henry all game. he will look good all year, but how can he do in the first half? or in the second half after 20 carries and 20 hits.

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    I've thought for a while now that it may be a better strategy to have McGahee as our "4th quarter" back rather than our "3rd Down" back. To me it fits his style better and could do some serious damage. The only thing I'd be worried about is the creation of an actual (not press induced) rift between Henry and McGahee.

     

    Is it possible Henry's cramps were not real?

  10. I am in an elimination pool with over 10,000 people and I am pretty sure that about 75% of them will be picking the pats..should I ride the wave or find another team and pray for an upset.....

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    With my week one pick of the Texans I have officially decided that my survivor pool opinions are worthless.

     

    As for your question, my opinion is.........worthless.

  11. If, however, you drag God in to the debate then the whole character of resolving community issues changes.  You don't need empirical studies because God has willied it.  You don't need a traffic study, it is God's will.  In disagreeing with you, I am defying God's will.  Now I am much more than a mere political opponent on an obscure issue.  Now I am someting much worse.  Suddenly, my morality and character are at issue because if I am not morally clean enough, who can trust my words as to the wisdom of a stop sign?  Isn't any attack against me justified because I have an "atheist" agenda?  The debate becomes impossible in that it can't conclude in a consensus decision.  Even if I win, your adherents can't ever accept something that is contrary to God's will so you must continue the fight long after the vote is taken.  It becomes a perpetual dispute that is never settled. 

     

    Piety has its place.

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    Funny. If you substitute the goverment for God in that paragraph you reverse the situation entirely. Evil republicans who don't want the government to be in charge of everything are frequently accused of wanting to starve children and deny medicine to old people. If you don't agree that the government should control the health system you want everyone to die. If you are against gun control you are for murderers running rampant. If you are against embryonic stem cell research or even have some doubt, you want cancer and every other disease to exist unabated.

     

    It becomes hard to deal with people that automatically think you're evil because you don't worship government.

     

    It all lies in the framing of the argument. Gore is way off base in trying to describe Bush as a simpleton and a zealot with one broad stroke. I'm not sure what question he was answering, but I am sure I don't want more attacks being planned or carried out while he studies the complexities of the situation so that he may remain above it all in his own overly academic and action averse mind.

  12. So the jerkwads at al Qaeda released another video today and, once again, Osama was 100% absent.

     

    No proof of life in over a year.  No reason why. 

     

    If you want an "October Surprise" it'll probably be some 'leak' or announcement that OBL is most likely worm food.

     

    al Zawahiri speaks

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    The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

     

    There could me many reasons he has not appeared on tape. Being dead is only one of them.

  13. Thanks guys, and Mark Gaughan's article this AM confirms that there was safety coverage on Shelton in the EZ...

     

    "After two 1-yard Henry runs, Bledsoe made a play-action fake and looked to the left flat for fullback Daimon Shelton. But Jaguars safety Deke Cooper read the play and blanketed Shelton. Bledsoe had to hold on for a sack and the Bills settled for a 25-yard field goal to make it 10-6. "

     

    Can't blame Drew for that, he made the right decision there and salvaged 3 points.

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    I saw the safety come over because I was looking at Shelton. I didn't really notice the guys coming at DB until later, but I was glad he did not throw it.

     

    They should have scored on 1st or second down.

  14. 12 teams, I had 9th pick

     

    Q Pennington, Leftwich

    RB E James, F. Taylor, M. Bennett, L. Jordan

    WR Moulds, Coles, Burress, T. Taylor

    TE Dallas Clark, SD guy, forgot his nmae but rated pretty high

    K Elam, Hanson

    Def Minn Buff

     

    Any thoughts? I waited forever to get a QB but thought I got good value elsewhere.

  15. So can we say with absolute certainty that the documents were forged? Not yet. Xavier University's Polt, in an email, offers two possible scenarios. "Either these are later transcriptions of earlier documents (which may have been handwritten or typed on a typewriter), or they are crude and amazingly foolish forgeries. I'm a Kerry supporter myself, but I won't let that cloud my objective judgment: I'm 99% sure that these documents were not produced in the early 1970s."

     

     

    If he is a Kertry supporter he must be objective and have a superior intellect, right? How does this reconcile?

     

    The was quoted in this article:

     

    Link

     

    I'm no typewriter expert, but I'd be willing to bet there is some reporter digging up the typewriteer purchase order records from Bush's unit.

  16. If he keeps it up for another couple of weeks, I'm riding him to a fantasy baseball championship!

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    I picked him up for $1 in mid 2002. We can keep guys by giving them a $5 or 20% raise, whichever is more. The bad news is, he can only be held out of 2 consecutive auctions meaning next year I have to throw him back. :doh:

     

    If you get a chance to watch him pitch you should do it. His change is filthy ridiculous. Guys swing and I swear the ball is still 15 feet away. Then he blows them away with a fastball the next time. I have laughed at several AL hitters this year because I knew what was about to happen and they were oblivious.

     

    He is young and may get rattled in the playoffs (he did last year), but I have a feeling he has turned a big corner.

     

    What's that you ask? Who did I pick up cheap this year that reminds me of Santana of '02? Well, that would be..................................

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Wilfredo Ledezma, Detroit Tigers. Pick him up now if you can keep him.

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