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I'm curious, what would this Weiner have to do for the liberals on this board to not support him? I've come to the conclusion if he were screwing animals that you guys would have his back. I'm still not getting how Andrew Breitbart and Fox News are the bad guys in the Weiner scandal. It's become pathetic. I'm embarrassed for you guys.
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Someone should tell the post that this is what you get when you help elect a slick talking complete novice for President of the United States. You get a complete novice who'll try to slick talk you into thinking that the country isn't in the disastrous state that it's currently in. They're just catching on now? Wow.
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Breitbart is an !@#$. I hadn't really seen a lot of him being interviewed in the press, until yesterday, and a few weeks ago on Real Time. He kind of reminds me of Bill O'Riley. Not stupid, by any means, but just desperate for people to like him, and wanting his "just due" on everything. Weiner has nobody to blame but himself for his current situation, but pretending his intent is anything beyond just wanting to "take people down" is giving him too much credit.
Don't you liberals have another messenger target to go after, TMZ?...
Weiner lied in yesterday's press conference when he said that he didn't attempt to tell people to lie to cover this up. I suppose TMZ is an !@#$ now?
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Yes, it's silly, as in a waste of time. As in you calling for it is a waste of breath. As in you might as well call Angelina Jolie and ask her to blow you.
People don't resign in the wake of controversies like this anymore (or if they ever did, see, eg, Teddy Kennedy). They just have a presser, maybe do some BS rehab, and wait for the next controversy to knock them out of the headlines. In 2 months, Weiner's weiner will be in the long list of people we talk about when the next guy's story breaks.
The guy's a pathalogical douchenozzle and compounds it by being an arrogant prick. Shortly he'll find Jesus and try to reinvent himself.
Dude, you're on a Buffalo board and you have the nerve to say such a silly thing? BTW, it would probably be very interesting to read that Lee thread now.
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Finally, the first porn star enters the fray!
Hey! This is not fair! Exactly how did TMZ "learn" this? Did she receive payment?...LOL
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I do feel bad for him and really for his wife and family. The law broken here is the law between a man and his wife. Nothing more than that. I think the difference between this and other incidents is that Weiner isn't out there campaigning against sexting or cheating. Still horrible and stupid thing to do.
Granted Weiner screwed up no matter what. But it would be interesting to find out how the photos were gained. Were they gained by Brietbart paying off someone? Someone truly hacking the account after the initial mistaken post? The girl involved releasing them for payment?
Since you probably watch NBC a lot, I can understand your confusion here. They were gained by someone doing their due diligence as an investigative reporter on a tip that a Democratic US Congressman was tweetting his junk out to strangers. Brian Williams could care less last week that a well known US Congressman was tweeting his junk out to strangers. It's called investigative journalism. It's called doing your job.
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Hey dip$%^&, calls for him to resign are silly because the people calling for it are not paying attention to the reality of scandal politics.
Hey jack@ss, you yourself said that he should resign.
Let's talk about reality. Congressman Weiner not only sent pictures of his junk to thousands of strangers, but he doubled down by boldly lying about it in preset interviews at his request with all of the major news networks. There is not one self respecting politician or citizen who will support him after doing this. That's reality.
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Way to miss the point. You love looking at wieners penis,so feel free. My point is that he won't resign and calls for him to do so are silly. There is precedent for awful behavior and no resignation, not the least of which is Newt 's multiple affairs, at least one of which was present during Monicagate hearings, and the bathroom footsie guy.
People should resign for stuff like this but they rarely do. Chris Lee was an exception.
Way to make yourself clear.
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Yawn........
Yawn? Really? When public office holders engage in this type of behavior it could lead to bribery thus possibly leading this person in an authoritative position to compromise their decision making regarding public money and/or votes. It doesn't matter what party you're representing, this is an automatic political career ender. Apparently Weiner's still delusional and also in denial.
This further diminishes the credibility of the MSM (if that's still even possible) as an objective and bipartisan media outlet. I wonder if Brian Williams thinks this is still a yawner story which should be ignored.
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The new normal...
Andrew Breitbart > Brian Williams
Weiner and Williams should both resign.
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I don't need to do any better. Why the ever-lovin' !@#$ should federal salaries be predicated on the earnings of state governors? It's a ridiculous comparison, worthy of...you, really.
You mean, it doesn't even occur to you to ask "Is this a normal increase for a recession?" Your half-assed knee-jerk opinion can't be bothered to wonder at the number?
This is the kind of thing that makes smart people smart, and stupid people (i.e. you) stupid. It's not the quality of your answers that determines how smart you are, it's the quality of your questions. You, simply, ask ****ty questions. If you ask them at all.
Point being: thanks for indulging in the same sort of meaningless blather.
Congratulations on maintaining your reign as king crack head of the PPP board. I truly feel sorry for your warped and twisted view of America and life in general. You have no clue, and the first time you get one will be the best day this board has even seen.
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Just curious...how much are the governors making? And why is it the federal government's fault they make less than some federal government workers?
Food stamp recipients increased during a recession? The hell you say...
Did you hear the governor of New Jersey flew a helicopter to a little league game?
Seriously? That's the best you can do? 77,000 federal workers have higher salaries than governors and thats the question you come up with? Simply amazing.
I get that there are families in need, but a 39% increase tells to me that the working people of America are being overrun by a bunch of freeloaders. I wonder how many of these people in the 39 percentile have cell phones…have extended cable packages…
Christie gets a "Get Out of Jail" free card from this New Jersey resident. He's saved this state from ruin. However, he better not make this kind of stupid mistake again.
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73% - the increase in the amount of federally owned limousines under Obama
77,000 - number of federal workers who are paid more than governors
39% - increase in food stamp recipients under Obama
Have the "saps" in the middle had enough of the "shared" sacrifice yet?
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In the past, Lee Evans expressed faith in JP Losman. I also remember having seen at least one player say that having Trent Edwards on the field gave him a lot of confidence that the Bills could win. Going into last season, Gailey even chose Edwards over Fitz as the starting QB. Just because you hear expressions of support for a QB does not mean he's the long-term answer.
The relevant question is not whether Fitz is or isn't an upgrade over Edwards. (Any more than the relevant question a year ago was whether Edwards was an upgrade over Losman.) The question we should be asking is, "Does Fitz look the way a franchise QB is supposed to look?" In some ways the answer is yes. But Fitz does not have the consistent accuracy you have to have from any long-term answer at QB.
The yards per attempt stat is not "ridiculous," as you put it. I defy you to show me either a) a franchise QB from any era since the merger who's failed to put up a solid yards per attempt stat, or b) a QB with a long career and a very solid yards per attempt stat who was clearly nowhere near being a franchise QB. I strongly doubt you're going to find either one of those players, no matter how hard you look. The yards per attempt stat really is that important. In Fitz's case, his so-so yards per attempt stat indicate a QB who struggles with accuracy, despite the many other things he does well.
Yards per attempt is a ridiculous stat to rate QBs. I'm LMAO reading the posts of you twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to argue how a throwaway stat like YPA is the way that you judge the greats.
Yards Per Attempt
2010 - Brady 5th, Brees 16th, Manning 18th
2009 - Manning 8th, Brady 11th
2008 - Manning 11th, Rothlesberger 17th
TDs
2010 - Brady 1st, Manning 2nd, Brees 3rd,
2009 - Brees 1st, Manning 2nd, Favre 3rd
2008 - Brees 1st, Rivers 2nd, Warner 3rd
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I look at teams like Atlanta and Kansas City who went after the Patriots front office personnel to better their teams, In Scott Pioli and Thomas Dimitroff. What better franchise to steal people from then one of the best teams in the NFL the last decade.
I guess this Buffalo Bills owner would rather promote a man who should be retired, then that old fool hires a cast off-reject who got fired in his last job, then promotes him to a higher position.
Lets continue to scrape the garbage cans over and over rather then hire top men...Shifting gears, Fitz went to Harvard where he played college ball with future doctors and lawyers, a real smart guy as he scored very high on the wonderlic, almost acing it. I have to wonder if he is agonizing at all over this upcoming season or does he love football so much that he is just grateful to be entering the season as a starter for the first time in his career?
I mean I would think that someone like Jim Kelly would take one look at this Buffalo Bills offense and say FU, I'm not even going to try and play QB behind that pathetic excuse for an offensive line, you have 3 guys starting that wouldn't even make the roster of any other NFL team. No tight end...Pete, where is Pete... Pete Metzelaars, that near 7 foot tall manster, not here? Oh well, so sorry guys but my back hurts something awful, I won't be able to play....
Stating that, I gotta wonder who in their right mind would want to come play backup QB for this team, they would have to be desperate in terms of needing money or running out of chances to make it.
At some point in this up coming season I will wonder as Fitz is taking brutal beatings week after week and running around like a chicken being chased by the farmers wife, a hatchet in her hand. Sitting in the whirlpool and icing his bruises, will he say to himself.... "F" THIS! I want to be able to walk when I'm 50....
I also wonder if players like Trent Edwards become jaded after awhile. They come into the league filled with hopes and dreams and then find out that they are put into an almost untenable situation on some horribly bad team, with bad coaching and bad players. How many severe concussions does to take to wake a player up to the realization that they are simply a commodity that the team must feel can easily be replaced for something better, because this team isn't making much of an effort to protect them.
Then fear creeps in that they will surely become a cripple both mentally and physically early in life if they continue to take a beat down every week. To top that off they look around and the media plus most every fan in the world points the finger at them and states they are the problem.
Excuse me, but where do you get off painting Edwards as a sympathetic figure?
"Put into an almost untenable situation on some horribly bad team"? Dude, Trent Edwards was the WORST PLAYER on the team!!!!! He was so so disgustingly bad that they cut his ass two games into the season!!!!
But you apparently think Bills fans to feel sorry for Trent???? Not only that, but you also paint Kelly and Fitzpatrick as some sort of weak-kneed panty waists who would turn away from a challenging situation.
Wow, you guys have some seriously warped opinions. I'm embarrassed for you after reading what you guys have written.
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In my earlier post, I wrote that Fitz's stats from 2010 were not markedly different than Edwards' career stats.
When evaluating QBs in general, I typically focus on yards per attempt. If QB A is in a West Coast offense and goes 3-3 for 30 yards, and QB B is in a Bradshaw-style offense and goes 1-3 for 30 yards, they'll both have the same yards per attempt. Unlike completion percentage, yards per attempt is a reasonably fair way of comparing West Coast QBs with their non-West Coast counterparts. Importantly, it's also a fair way of comparing QBs whose offensive coordinators call a lot of running plays in the red zone against QBs whose offensive coordinators rely heavily on the passing game when inside the 20. The same cannot be said about TD passes.
I have repeatedly acknowledged that Fitz is a better QB than Edwards in some respects. Edwards is too cautious. Sometimes you have to take chances if you're going to have success. Fitz does that, which is part of the reason why he throws more TD passes. (I also suspect Gailey is more likely to call passing plays inside the 20 than Edwards' offensive coordinators were.)
But in the all-important yards per attempt stat, Fitz in 2010 failed to materially distinguish himself from Edwards. Fitz's average from 2010 was 6.8 yards per attempt, as compared to 6.5 yards per attempt for Edwards' career average. To put those numbers into perspective, Matt Schaub has averaged 7.8 yards per attempt over the course of his career. That's what a real QB looks like!
I'll grant that Schaub has one of the highest yards per attempt stats in the league. Typically, if a QB averages 7.2 yards per attempt, I think he's generally a borderline franchise QB (depending on other factors), with a career average of 7.4 yards per attempt being good enough to distinguish him as a bona fide franchise QB almost regardless of those other factors.Well that's your problem right there. I'd advise you to concentrate more on the touchdown pass stat when evaluating quarterbacks. That way you'll have a lower probability of making foolish statements like your comparison of Fitzpatrick to Edwards.
Fitzpatrick is a hundred times better than Edwards. Edwards couldn't find the flippin' endzone if Dakota Fanning was doing cartwheels in it.
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The improvement you're hoping for will not occur.
As I hinted at in my earlier post, Fitz did a number of things well in 2010. (Good decisions, getting rid of the ball quickly when he had to, and so forth.) In fact, he did those things well enough that there probably isn't all that much room for further improvement. Not, at least, in those areas.
The thing which was holding Fitz back was his accuracy (or lack thereof). A perfectly good throw would be followed up by an inaccurate one. Severe accuracy issues are typically not corrected this late into an NFL career. Those accuracy issues are why Fitz's stats from 2010 aren't much different than Edwards' career stats. They are also why Fitz, despite his many good qualities, is not and will not be the long-term answer at QB.
Choosing the right guy to throw to is useless if you can't follow that decision up with an accurate throw. Consistent accuracy is an essential part of being a good QB, and a good QB is an essential part of building a Super Bowl winner. It is a near certainty that the Bills will not win a Super Bowl as long as Fitz is the starter.
That's truly an idiotic statement. In Edwards' best season he had a measly 11 touchdown passes. Fitzpatrick had 23 last year. Yet you dare to compare the two? Are you dumb? Am I the only one here laughing at these "bold" and idiotic statements being made in this thread? Comparing Edwards to Fitzpatrick? Seriously? WOW, you guys seriously need to stop sniffing the paint thinner brother.
It's a good thing that Jim Kelly never played during the modern internet era. In his 11 seasons, Kelly "only" passed the "magical" 60% completion rate 4 times. Dan Marino's career completion percentage is 59%.
Ryan Fitzpatrick puts the flippin' ball into the flippin' end zone. If you guys can't see that or don't appreciate that then fine, but don't think you can get away with wildly stupid statements like that one that you made here and not get called out for it.
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Very much so. I dont think his stats have just as many good parts, but he did show a lot of improvement last season. This year will be a big test for him. He will be unchallenged in training camp and should be ready to go. Although the defense was bad last year, part of that was getting worn down in the latter parts of games due to the O's inability to stay on the field.
Well it's good to have a consensus on something! I'm coming to the point where this debate of Fitzpatrick is pointless. He's only signed for this year. There's really no worries one way or the other. Either he hits one out of the park by leading our team to a winning season and maybe playoffs, or he's gone and we draft a first round QB next year. Even the Fitzpatrick supporters aren't going to want to give him a second chance being that he's 28 years old. This is it. At least there's not the "which QB should start" debate that we've had this last decade.
I said it before and I'll say it again, that first game against KC will be a big one for Fitzpatrick. He needs to start winning and beating an average like KC is key to getting his season and his team off on the right foot.
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you know its telling you didnt "refudiate" him with any sort of evidence.
1) In 4 out of 13 starts he threw for less than 160 yards - yup he did
2) In 5 of those games he completed less than 52% of his passes - yup he did
3) He's had 3 seasons of taking the majority of his teams' snaps - yup he did- in 08 he played in all but 3 games for CIN.
I would check your stuff before you come across like another poster who has a baseless opinion. All the stats he cited were accurate and not misrepresented.
Just because it doesn't fit your narrative doesn't mean its incorrect.
I was wrong and I apologize to BillsVet. It was early in the morning, I got pissed and ended up going off on what I thought I saw on profootballreference. Go ahead give it to me, I deserve it.
For every stat that the bashers provide, there are equally positive stats that show a markedly improved QB in 2010 than Fitzpatrick's previous years as a starter. It's not quite Drew Brees like, but the swing in improvement was certainly there. Add to the fact that the dirty little secret in Bills land (is and that NO ONE here talks about) was the complete lack of a running game and the worst defense in the league that never shortened the field for our boy.
We'll see who's right in 2011 because this is the very definition of a "make or break" season for Fitzpatrick. There will be no gray area. He either gets our team close to or in the playoffs and looking great doing it on a consistent basis, or the Bills are picking a QB in the first round next year.
Carson Palmer turned the 4 win 2008 bengals under Fitz into 10-6 bengals.
2008? Really? This is getting ridiculous. Nobody's disputing that Fitzpatrick was a bad QB in 2008. He was a 7th round pick that obviously had a long learning curve ahead of him.
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He's had 3 seasons of taking the majority of his teams' snaps. And during that time I haven't seen anything to indicate he's a long term guy. Some of those games he had last season were just plain awful. In 4 out of 13 starts he threw for less than 160 yards. In 5 of those games he completed less than 52% of his passes. That's not the type of consistency I'm looking for from a franchise caliber QB.
The guy's a great story and an outstanding teammate. But that's not enough to win games in an ultra-competitive league where QB play more often than not is the difference between winning and losing.
One thing you Fitzpatrick bashers are good at and that's lying about his stats. You lied three times there buddy. That's a hard thing to do considering it was such a short post.
It's pretty pathetic when you have to lie to bash a stand up guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick.
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There's no evidence Fitz is a long term answer at QB. He lacks a strong arm, struggles with his accuracy, and turns the ball over far too often, notably in the KC game. Not having a strong presence at OT, the lack of a threat at TE, a marginal running game, and a poor defense surely exacerbates his situation, but it's not a complete excuse for why he struggles. Buffalo hasn't had much at QB to compare him with either.
Teams have a year of tape on Gailey and Fitzpatrick. In the NFL it's not always what you do out of the box, but how you react after someone sees what you do well. It's entirely possible the offense stagnates or improves marginally in 2011.
Besides, after 3 seasons of starting the majority of his teams' games, what stands out to demonstrate he's a top-10 caliber QB? Because if you don't have one of those, you're not getting to the playoffs.
People like me who believe he's still on the rise as a player, and still has franchise potential, have provided their evidence hundreds of times by now.
You disagree, we get it. Just don't expect us to waste our time trying to convince you.
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If you're not a troll, you're a douche. I'm not suggesting Fitz is going to light the league on fire, but what gets under my skin is "experts" like yourself who "know" he will not be successful. You spout off as if you hold all the answers, when you're no more insightful than anyone else. Sorry, I'm not willing to give a guy who just joined the board two days ago the benefit of the doubt.
I couldn't take him seriously, so I didn't even bother...LOL
Fitzpatrick flipped the switch at the end of the 2009 season, continued his consistency in 2010 and will have a better than good chance to become the Bills franchise player after a stellar 2011. He'll have to beat teams like the Patriots and Jets to do that though, but I believe that he's got the goods. I normally don't place a whole lot into one game, but that first game against the Chiefs is a big one for Fitzpatrick. If he doesn't either lead the Bills to a win or at least have a very good day (if it's a loss), then that would not be a good sign. At 28, there's no more time to lose. He knows that 2011 is make or break for his career with the Bills. So realizing this, you've got to beat the average teams whether it's on the road or not.
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I agree with you, Fitz most likely will never be in the top 50% of the starters in the league, but I guess he makes losing a little more exciting than some of the stiffs we have had lately.
That's a very dumb statement considering he was 13th in TD passes with only 13 freaking starts.
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how many of those guys needed 7 years in the league to get that many starts?
Bradshaw, Plunkett, Fouts, Simms, Moon, Testaverde, Warner, Gannon, Hasselbeck, Brees
I think the past few years of QBs doing well right out of the gate has skewed fans' perceptions of what's considered the "normal" rate of progression of the NFL QB. The answer is that of all the top QBs that have played in this league, the rate of progression varies from immediate success to around Fitzpatirck's age of 28. Fitzpatrick has all the earmarks of an "old school" taking a few years to learn the ropes kind of a guy. Of all the top QBs that have played this game, probably around 25- 30 percent took till the age of 28 to become a top QB.
Way back before last year's Baltimore game, I posted a thread showing that Fitzpatrick was putting up numbers that suggested he was a late bloomer. The rest of the 2010 season only confirmed my belief this was the case. I get that there are fans here that need more confirmation. He does need to become even better that what he is right now. The next step of progression for Fitzpatrick is to start beating good teams like the Patriots and Jets.
ok all you neocons, teabaggers and libber-tear-uhns!
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Christie, Romney, Gulliani, Palin, Cain, Perry
There's six solid people who I think would effectively turn this country around from the Detroit-like, Titanic-like liberal policies. Barry's a proven failure. A proven category five disaster. Care to argue he's not? He couldn't run a lemonade stand successfully if he tried. It's not even a debate anymore. But go ahead an laugh at Romney and the Tea Party. Speaking of the Tea Party, weren't they the ones who kicked your sorry asses in the mid term elections? Not sure why they're so funny to you, but so be it. I suggest that you enjoy these last few months of the "chosen one's" first and only term.