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Georgia Bill
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I'm glad we played our starters in the first half. Hopefully we can pull out the win without them hereafter.
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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
The closer we get to this game, the less I care about the 2 seed and the more terrified I am of injuries. This will not be a fun game to watch. Imo
Oh and I REALLY do not care about records.
So you will also be terrified of injuries in any subsequent playoff games. Better not watch any of these games, too frightening...
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1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said:
I feel sorry for Fitz. I am very glad it happened to the team.
Don't put bad ju-ju out into the universe.
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4 minutes ago, Georgia Bill said:
Unfortunately, the only real way to answer whether resting starters in the last game of the season is a good decision is AFTER you play the playoff game that comes next. If you rested starters and lose the playoff game, it was a bad decision (blame placed on rust). If you didn't rest starters, suffer key injuries, and lose the playoff game, it was a bad decision (blame placed on injuries).
Since everything in advance is conjecture, our current positions on this really come down to which we are more worried about, injuries or loss of momentum. The 2011 Packers rested Rodgers, then lost their first playoff game. The Bengals rested starters in 2005 and 2009, followed by losses in their first playoff games. In the old days 😉 Belichick always played his starters and had pretty good success.
I think McDermott is more worried about injuries and will rest key starters for most if not all of the game. Time will tell if that conservative strategy works...
Oh, I see we now have to also worry about CoVid with the Fitzpatrick news. That skews things heavily towards resting starters...
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Unfortunately, the only real way to answer whether resting starters in the last game of the season is a good decision is AFTER you play the playoff game that comes next. If you rested starters and lose the playoff game, it was a bad decision (blame placed on rust). If you didn't rest starters, suffer key injuries, and lose the playoff game, it was a bad decision (blame placed on injuries).
Since everything in advance is conjecture, our current positions on this really come down to which we are more worried about, injuries or loss of momentum. The 2011 Packers rested Rodgers, then lost their first playoff game. The Bengals rested starters in 2005 and 2009, followed by losses in their first playoff games. In the old days 😉 Belichick always played his starters and had pretty good success.
I think McDermott is more worried about injuries and will rest key starters for most if not all of the game. Time will tell if that conservative strategy works...
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13 hours ago, Just Jack said:
I looked it up, I only went as far back as the 2000 season...
2012 Baltimore (Division champ)
2011 Giants (Division champ)
2010 Green Bay (Wild Card)
2007 Giants (Wild Card)
2006 Indianapolis (Division champ)
2005 Pittsburgh (Wild Card)
2000 Baltimore (Wild Card)
Interesting how you go several years without the winner playing three playoff games, then bam! Three years in a row where a Wildcard round team made it.
Thanks. For those that might be curious, I dug a little deeper on these Super Bowl winners. Not sure it paints a definitive picture. I bolded the ones where the win in the last game of the season was not critically needed. The ones that aren't bolded were where the team HAD to win to get in, so obviously they played their starters.
2012 Baltimore - did not need the win, played starters 1 qtr, lost the game to Cinci
2011 Giants - needed a win to secure division (with a loss they'd be out of the playoffs), beat Dallas
2010 Green Bay - needed a win to secure a wild card spot, beat Chicago
2007 Giants - did not need the win (already locked into 5th seed), played starters anyway (which Coughlin took heat for), lost to the then undefeated Patriots
2006 Colts - needed a win to secure the 3rd seed, played starters, beat Miami
2005 Pittsburgh - needed a win to secure a wild card spot, beat Detroit
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I get the concern about injuries, but you can't play skeered. Injuries could happen to anyone at anytime in any game. Only when a key player gets injured during one of the very seldom games where a win is not considered critical do people get up in arms about how they should not have been on the field. Their chances of getting hurt are not any worse than during any of the other 15 games already played. Play the starters, play to win, and keep the monster momentum we've been gathering rolling full speed!
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10 hours ago, ChicksDigBills said:
We may not have the Ultimate 12 Man in the stadium Sunday ... but hoping Mother Nature makes her presence felt for the Fins...always love watching MIA play in the frozen tundra of Buffalo in late Dec/early Jan
This...
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17 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:
I suspect many may not want to hear this but the team can be for real and still lose in the first round of the playoffs. It's a single elimination tournament played with an oblate spheroid and wacky stuff goes down sometimes, not to mention that the AFC is very strong. If you could play 5 or 7 game series in football I'd say book us for the AFCCG.
The "for real" feeling for me is that we'll return to the playoffs perennially while Josh is on the team and healthy and that deep playoff runs will happen when they happen.
We also have a very real chance at a championship this year.
Despite my fears of losing a SB expressed earlier, I'm with you - we have a very real chance this of winning it all this year and I'm all in. Go Bills!
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We are playing great and of course I just want the wins and joy to continue - but in the back of my mind I'm a little nervous that we are peaking too soon due primarily to a great offense. I think of the 2016 Falcons who had a high powered offense but a defense that needed a couple more key pieces. They ascended to the Super Bowl against the early season odds and looked great in the first half, then got steamrolled in the second when their defense wore down from the constant pummeling.
So part of me thinks maybe with one more year to upgrade our run defense we would be unstoppable, and that would be the best time to get to the Super Bowl. While I love the way things are going, my nagging fear is getting to the Super Bowl and losing again. That can negatively impact a team's future and I don't want to see that happen to this team. WHEN this team gets to the Super Bowl, it is imperative that they win on that first trip! Of course the other part of me says GO NOW, as we've got lightning in a bottle and you can't be sure what the future holds.
I realize some might say there's no reason to fast forward to a Super Bowl when we would first have to win 3 playoff games in a tough AFC to get there. But ask yourself honestly, outside of the Super Bowl win we all crave (and want to see this team enjoy) if we have to lose this year would you rather have that loss be in one of the playoff games, or in the Super Bowl itself? I'm torn between hope and fear and there is no doubt that is due to past history.
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2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
Bill looked so defeated in his presser. What on the odds on his retirement?
I was thinking the same thing. Does he really have it in him to keep coaching trying to get a New England team up to the top of the AFC - with so many teams ahead of them now? It might be time for him to retire, not quite on top after this year, but close enough to it. If he keeps going and fields a bunch of teams for years that don't make the playoffs his reputation is just going to keep getting more tarnished.
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Wow, I feel like I'm dreaming and someone might pinch me and wake me from this wonderment. The Bills are 12-3, firing on all cylinders and steamrolling teams heading into the playoffs??? After all the years suffering through the tough times this amount of good fortune is almost hard to comprehend! But, hey, I think I can find a way to get used to it. GO BILLS - making Buffalo PROUD!!!
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17 minutes ago, Nitro said:
I remember sipping on my dad's beer when we won the 1965 championship. Enjoy it gents. By the way I was a rambunctious 5 year old at the time.
Youngster - I was 7. Ron McDole moved into the house 3 doors down from us on Grand Island when I was barely 5. I pointed out how large he was and my Dad said "he plays for the Buffalo Bills". I asked what's that? Been a fan ever since, through thick and thin.
To all the true youngsters out there who weren't around for the early 90's runs - Soak it up and enjoy this. You're watching something special here...
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Man, what a way to put an exclamation point on a win to grab the AFC East crown! Loving this team. It's ok to dream big this year - these guys are legit!!!
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My concern is during that game it seemed like KC was content to just run the ball down our throats. We never really got to see the full offense with the aerial firepower mixed in with the run. It's hard to stop, you can only hope to slow it down. I wouldn't get too presumptuous about our ability to beat them in the playoffs, when they for sure will bring their A game.
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19 minutes ago, njbuff said:
What should be brought up is that this team inexplicably went into the tank after building a 23-9 lead.
No lead is safe with this team is what is most troubling and will NEVER be a success if you want to venture into elite status.
They put up a stat that showed the Arizona Cardinals are 0-55-1 in games when down by 14 points or more. Basically saying based on history, no way the Cards come back. Well now they are 1-55-1. When I see those kind of stats shown on the screen it always makes me cringe - like some bad juju just was let out into the universe.
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7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
On the way down from DeAndre hopkins though who has two hands on it...its a tough task for sure
The throw was absolutely perfect somehow thats the mind-blowing part for me...an inch higher and its out of his reach and an inch lower it gets swatted
My take on this is, when we talk about a throw being perfect i.e. exactly where it needed to be - on a hail Mary, that is a lucky throw, plain and simple. No way does the QB know when he heaves it that it is going to land in that perfect place where only his guy is going to be able to get it. These type plays are so sensational simply because the odds of that happening are so low. I just don't give too much credit to the QB - he got lucky. The receiver though does deserves credit for staying focused on the ball, jumping at just the right time, and bringing it down in heavy traffic.
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I thought the catch by Diggs for the go ahead TD was a miraculous play - we came from behind, got ballsy on an end zone throw instead of settling for a field goal and WON THE GAME! It was not a likely ending, based on the way we'd been playing in the second half, but damn if we didn't snag the win. BUT - shortly thereafter, a bigger miracle, of a much more unlikely kind. Seconds left, the hail mary throw - three defenders around hopkins, yet he comes down with the ball in the end zone. I can't be mad about it - they out miracled us. At least it was non conference - we'll be ok.
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So nice to have great play on both sides of the ball. This is the kind of win you can build momentum off of!
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REALLY nice to have the game under control all game long. GO BILLS!!
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4 hours ago, Weatherman said:
I would call the Phins about Fitz or sign the wrong Josh from the Bucs practice squad.
I think Fitz to the Cowboys might make sense for both teams.
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We were a top 5 defense last year. Now this. I can understand a little drop-off in performance but the last two games have just been embarrassing. It seems to me like nobody wants to tackle.
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what the hell happened? How did our D go from top 3 last year to this? It's getting embarrasing.
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A ways down in this blog they talk about 3 free agents the Cowboys should consider signing. DT Marcell Dareus is first on the list. Another similar suggestion was made on a Cincinnati Bengals blog. So some people think he might be a viable option...
Week 17 1/3/21 Bills vs. Dolphins 2nd Half Gameday Thread
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Colts or Ravens or Browns have to lose.