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1 hour ago, Aimee75 said:
And you aren't really a Bills fan, but most likely a Chiefs fan or some other team, posing as a Bills fan over here. It's been obvious since day 1.
This again? In your world all Bills fans must think they’re the best always. Guess when you hear things you don’t like you lash out.In the words of another great man. ‘You can’t handle the truth!’ - Jack Nicholson.
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13 hours ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:
I have to disagree Mr. Walnuts. The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl with a bunch of hockey pucks playing receiver. Kelce even had a bit of a down year. They beat the 49ers, who are loaded at receiver. They also defeated the Ravens who have two very good receivers and a solid TE. The Ravens lost because they tried to out pass the Chiefs instead of just being the best rushing team in the AFC. The Bills, seeing KC’s success are emulating the approach. What team with a twenty five million dollar receiver has won it all? The answer is none. A variety of targets schemed in the right way, with a good running attack is enough when JA17 is Quarterback. Hell I can’t wait to see our younger jumped up defense fly around. These are some exciting times mates!
Bills had a group of receivers that included Diggs and Davis. I’d say that’s better than hockey pucks. We’ve been to the AFCCG once just to get blown out. Now they’re gone and replaced with unproven talents but it’s enough now?Kincaid and Coleman need to develop into top pass catchers. Also need one of the fast receivers on the roster to consistently stretch the field to clear out the middle. I don’t believe the Bills can win a superbowl without major contributors from the wr position. It’s not the same situation as KC.
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4 hours ago, Chaos said:
The Bills have a their own version of Mahomes, but can’t get it done. So I guess we have nothing to cover up
In the words of a wise man. ‘Allen is not Mahomes. The Bills are not the Chiefs’ - Kyle Brandt. -
5 hours ago, Kornfed said:
Cmon man..... The team started to find cohesiveness in the second half of the season. Josh. Shakir and Kincaid. .... There's more focus and continuity growing with out (although I loved him like everybody) Diggs distraction. ....... Now the staff just get to put the puzzle pieces on the field without a super ego say WTF? ..... I hope I'm right. ..... It's got to make things a bit easier for the coaches and Josh to focus on what should be done rather than who should do it. .... This is true.
I agree with all of this. I just think we need more proven receivers.-
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2 hours ago, Kornfed said:
Can't help but wonder if Josh will be more efficient without Diggs demanding targets. Just dropping back and reading what's available. .... Nobody questioning who's the boss on the field. ........ If Josh is as good as I think he is, he'll flourish doing what he sees in Brady's offense.
And if he doesn’t and the offense stalls it’s because ‘no receivers’.-
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2 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
You think Diggs or Hill could put up top 10 stats wit ha guy like say Zack Wilson or Mac Jones at QB? Think there'd be a pretty big drop off.
That’s not what I said. If a receiver can consistently get open but the qb can’t get them the ball it doesn’t mean the receiver is bad. Think Zack Wilson with Garrett Wilson. With a marginal qb those open opportunities would be completed. Think Dhop with Hopkins or Kyler Murray.
What you said about all Allen needed was Diggs to get open and he’d get him the ball is just competent qb work is my point. Elite QBs would elevate a receiver. I.E. throw his guy open. Or make an accurate throw even if he’s cover where only the receiver has a chance at it. Those things make marginal receivers seem elite while the former make marginal QBs seem elite. That was the distinction I was making.
Again not saying Allen doesn’t do that. I was just making a distinction from your receivers getting open comment because it’s the offseason and I’m bored.
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2 hours ago, JoshAllin said:
Josh has the experience now to make any of the receivers special, so I feel the bills are fine at wr right now
Sure why not. It’s fine like it’s been fine the last 5 years. Who wants a Lombardi anyway. Can’t even drink out of that thing. -
1 hour ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
I think have a top QB like Allen can make a WR who isn't considered top 10 look like he's all Pro. For those reasons I'm not as worried about the WR group as many here.
Recall what supposedly told Diggs when he first got here, just get open and catch the ball, I don't care about anything else. Can see that being the case this year again too. Now admittedly with a rookie , the knowing how to get open at the NFL level can be a bit tougher than he may think, may take some time whomever it was.
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14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
Just looks like the Chiefs were ahead of the curve with Hill and we were 1 year too late with Diggs. One of Coleman’s years had Diggs dead cap. I don’t know how they’re are still Diggs apologists left.
You should be upset with Beane not Diggs.-
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27 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
I'll keep repeating this point until it sinks in - The Chiefs offense was shut out in the 2nd half of the AFCCG and the 1st half of the Super Bowl. This is not something for the Bills to aspire to. We don't have the defensive coaching or personnel to turn that kind of offensive production into a Super Bowl win.
Yet they won. But you’re right. They had a great defense that carried them through offensive lulls this past season. What about the Superbowl they won the year before when their defense gave up 35 points in that game? KC’s best attribute is doing just enough to get the job done. Whether it’s offense, defense, ST. It’s a team game afterall. Now that’s an aspiration the Bills can get on board with imo.-
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3 hours ago, eball said:
Some of you aren’t understanding this…the players I listed for those teams are those who were their biggest contributors at the WR, TE, and RB positions. Those groups as a whole are not demonstrably stronger than what the Bills have — in my opinion.
KC added Worthy. Good for them.
I think the Bills have plenty to compete for a championship.
I think you’re missing the point of what a great qb can do to elevate his weapons. So on paper KC’s weapons have been meh the last two years but they’ve won it all due in large to their qb.
Same can be said of Allen and this current Bills group.
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2 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:
Yes but I’m talking about when they finally don’t make it to the AFCCG or superbowl- like a round 1 or 2 playoff exit. It’s crazy to think that they’ve been able to make it that far for that long. It will be interesting to see how they respond when they look mortal.
…may it be sooner than later.
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2 hours ago, KingBoots8 said:
they’re going to eventually be unable to sustain this level of success - be it the Bills or someone else taking them down when it matters, he’ll have to face the music. The first time it happens he will probably be, understandably, upset. But if it’s Josh - he will probably at least respect it.
Now that he has 3 rings he’s guaranteed HOF first ballot. At this point anything else is just icing on his cake… let’s just hope he’s got diabetes or something from now on 😂
You do know KC has lost big games with Mahomes right? 2018 AFCCG, 2020 Superbowl, 2021 AFCCG. I know it feels like he wins every year but they have been taking down before.-
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3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
Back when men were men...
And a long healthy life was overrated…-
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3 hours ago, NewEra said:
He might be the best QB ever. He’s ended 3 of our last 4 seasons. I don’t like the guy. Not sure why any bills fan would like him. But hate is a different story. I don’t hate him.
From the outside, i think he could have it a lot better than he does. You're about to be a billionaire and you get to choose one person to spend the rest of your life…. And you choose her. The biggest decision one could make….and you blow it in such a big way. 🤦🏻♂️ sorry, not sorry.
They’ve been together since HS. If anything wouldn’t it shows that he’s loyal and isn’t that an admirable trait?I agree with you about the ‘hate’ part. How can a person hate someone they only see play ball on TV. I get hating teams but individuals? It says more about the person doing the hating.
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1 hour ago, finn said:
Davis was bigger, but of course he couldn't get open or catch, so what good is that?
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6 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
They want BIG and Athletic. Speed is good, don't get me wrong, but they are seeming to push for big, physical WR's and that is what Joe Brady had his year as OC with HIS offense down at LSU. No more getting bullied at the LOS, and hopefully a lot more contested balls. It also brings a greater Catch radius for Allen to hit on when his passes are slightly off.
Look I get it, Fans want splash they want exciting and we tried that with smaller, faster WR's and it didn't work. I am excited to see this new approach to be honest, and if we get the running game going, then we are going to see somewhat less exciting 8, 10,12+ play drives that eat the clock and keep guys like Mahomes and Kelce on the bench and hopefully lead to more TD's.
Sounds like Martyball from the 90s.-
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We got our own Toney now? Beane is taking this mirroring KC’s blueprint a little too far. 😝
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Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:
As I said, it helps with development. When Mahomes clearly didn’t need a $30 million WR, they traded him and put the money elsewhere.
Not every franchise qb, no matter how talented, can do what Mahomes has done. At the surface I agree with you that since Allen ‘arrived’ he should make any receivers better. That’s necessary because of how much franchise QBs make.
However, four years with Diggs, a top 5 receiver most of that time, and Davis, a great 2nd option, and we couldn’t get over the top. I do think 2 top flight receivers is necessary for Allen. Hopefully Kincaid and Coleman can develop into those roles. With the cap situation investing in a premier wr in FA is probably not doable.
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Not even a big deal for KC if he does miss 8 games. They’re loaded and he’d be back for the playoffs anyway.
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4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
I feel like the Bills went out and got Allen a WR1 in 2020 and then other teams have gone crazy loading up with WRs for their rookie contract QBs. Getting 2 or 3 highly rated WRs for their young QB.
It probably helps but what team has actually won a Super Bowl doing this? I don’t think any team loading up at WR for their young QB has won anything yet. Maybe because it’s a pretty new trend.
When Mahomes was on his rookie contract KC signed Sammy Watkins and drafted Hardman to go along with Hill and Kelce. Then they won their first Superbowl so I think that qualifies the scenario you laid out. Then they won 2 more without big name receivers so I guess a team can do it either way. -
20 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:
Franchise QB and some key vets in place and you can win. Bills can do it, we have the roster.
Anything is possible. But we couldn’t do it with a franchise qb and quality vets that have played together the last handful of years. To suddenly lose those guys and win with rookies replacements the first year of transition is something I wouldn’t bet on.-
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12 minutes ago, Sweats said:
It might be just a little more than that.......it might have something to do with a fantastic QB, a HOF TE, an excellent D, etc.
Their D was not excellent in ‘22 due to all the rookies as mentioned. Agree about the QB, TE, and excellent coaching. -
1 hour ago, Gregg said:
Alot of new faces and rookies will be counted on. I honestly have no idea how the 2024 season will play out. They won't be a complete bottom feeder, but I am not expecting a Super Bowl contender either.
People saw how KC won it all when they started a bunch of rookies in ‘22 and think that’s the norm when it’s really an anomaly. Outside of KC I can’t think of a team that can achieve that in the current NFL.-
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Is it true the Bills didn’t “do enough” at WR to compete for championships?
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The offense had the ball last with a chance to win and couldn’t do it. It’s a team effort win or lose.