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  1. 3 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

    I want to win a SB, but its entertainment first and foremost


    Of course it is. Sports IS entertainment. However, I’m willing to bet that fans of teams that won championships were more entertained during those runs than fans of teams that fell short. Saying SB’s don’t matter or that they’re bs is nutty. 

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  2. 2 hours ago, jaybills said:

    SB are BS. Who cares. 


    One of the funniest things I’ve read on here. What’s the point of watching games and following the team if you really believe this.

     

    Allen will end up in the hof. You can make that case without making such an outrageous statement about SBs. 

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  3. 14 minutes ago, Ballhawk said:

    I agree assumptions are dangerous and there are lots of definitions of intelligence. But my gosh 13 is not good...even if we account for bias in these type tests...yikes 🥺


    Haha yeah that’s for sure. My opinion about him has changed since he first came into the league. I really didn’t think he’d be an effective starter much less one of the top guys in the AFC. He has earned respect with his play. It’s very similar to what Allen endured from some media types and fans early in his career. 

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  4. 31 minutes ago, Special K said:

    Again......I didn't assume anything....I said "I'm not sure if"......do you know the meaning of the word assume??

     

    It seems like you are just looking to argue for the sake of arguing.... if you don't agree with me, you are entitled to your own opinion.

     

    If you want to think a guy who scored a 13 out of 50 on his Wonderlic test score (Josh Allen scored a 37 out of 50) is a smart guy...than that's your right.....my end of this argument has come to a conclusion. Have a wonderful aftetnoon!!


    ‘didn't say he wasn't good.....said he isn't very smart’. This was what you wrote. You might want to look up the definition of assumptions. 
     

    I think a guy that has been a successful qb in the NFL for several years isn’t dumb regardless of whatever test he took before coming to the league. 
     

    Didn’t realized we’re arguing. lol. But it’s interesting that you think some anonymous poster’s opinion that doesn’t aligned with yours equates to an argument. You have a great day as well. 

  5. 7 minutes ago, Special K said:

     

    Again.....didn't say he wasn't good.....said he isn't very smart.

     

    As to your comment about the Media not helping him......who do you think votes for the MVP????

     

    As to Henry......before the Ravens got Henry, the excuse from the Media was "there isn't enough help around him"...... now that they have Henry, the Media still blames everyone else but Jackson when they lose.

     

    It has been reported that Jackson travels to New York to party on the weekdays in between games, and does not watch a lot of film to try to make himself a more well-rounded QB.....these are signs of a player who isn't too smart, IMO.

     

    Also, I am not sure if the last line of your post insinuated A racial component to my arguement, but there are plenty of smart Black QB's in the league......there are also plenty of dumb White QB's in the league....race is not a factor here.


    I don’t follow Lamar that closely to know his party schedule. To me that’s an indicator of work ethics and commitment, not intelligence. I do know it’s not easy playing qb in the NFL. He’s been the qb of a superbowl contending franchise for multiple years. I’ll disagree with you about him not being smart. 

     

    The fact that you assumed my comment about not being a typical qb was about race is very revealing. I meant not typical in a sense of pocket passer with elite arm talent and not much athleticism to run. But you went straight to race. 
     

     

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  6. 40 minutes ago, Special K said:

    Where did I say its a bad thing to design an offense to take advantage of a players strengths??

     

    The question was can a player who isn't very smart win an MVP, and my answer was yes if he is put in the perfect offense for him and gets massive help from the media.

     

    That gimmicky read option Offense with a future first ballot Hall of Fame RB standing right next to him is the only Offense he would be successful running.


    Well, you said he’s in a system designed for him so he doesn’t deserved to be MVP. How else would someone interpret that?
     

    I didn’t realize the media was helping him play quarterback. Also didn’t know a future first ballot hof rb was standing next to him his entire career.

     

    You’re making a lot of assumptions about someone you don’t know. He’s clearly on the upper echelon of players in the NFL. He probably doesn’t fit your idea of a typical qb but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a great player. 

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  7. 8 hours ago, Special K said:

     

    Not when you have an Offense that is tailor made for him, that also protects him from his limitations in that area, and a Media Machine that is designed to prop him up when he succeeds, and deflects blame from him when he fails.

     


    You’re saying an offense that’s designed to a player’s strengths to minimize his weaknesses is a bad thing?

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  8. 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

    Did Mahomes do it or did his team's defense? Just asking.


    It’s a team game. When his defense gave up 35 points to the Eagles in Super Bowl 57 he had to drive his team to get the winning points at the end of the game. Same as when his defense gave up OT points to SF in Super Bowl 58. He drove his team for the winning touchdown. Just saying. 

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  9. 2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

     

    It doesn't have to count for anything. QBs have a lower impact on single game wins than most fans think. They're probably worth like 30% or less of the team's overall success. Which of course makes them by far the most important player on the team, but the rest of the team taken as a whole is still more impactful. This is the same line of thinking that makes a lot of Eagles fans argue to the death that Hurts is a top 5 QB, but when you watch him play there is a clear drop off.


    It doesn’t have to but it does. The #1 priority for any NFL team to win in this era is an elite qb. This isn’t even a debatable fact. A team with an elite qb and mediocre teammates would have a better chance than a team with a mediocre qb and superior teammates. It’s the most important position on the team so it would count for a lot if the same qb keeps leading his team past the other qbs to get to the superbowl. 

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  10. 14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    Fair and figured that would be controversial. Over the last 2 years, all 3 have been better IMO. It was so hard for me to put him there but those guys have been better for 2 years. 🤷🏻‍♂️


    Over the last 3 yrs Mahomes has also knocked those 3 guys from the title game. That’s gotta count for something. 

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  11. 2 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

    So you just buy the Sunday ticket but don't have Youtube TV? I tried last year and was told that I had to have YTTV to get the ticket.  I will double check, that would be great.  


    Yes. I did the same last year. You watch games through YouTube with your registered email. 

  12. 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    It's just a different type of fandom. I'm the guy who posted a thread here the day after the Dalton miracle saying "don't hate the drought". Life isn't just about the destination. It is about the journey too. Sports are the same to me.


    That’s a great perspective! I apply this mentality to real life, which sports fandom isn’t for me. It’s strictly entertainment. 

  13. 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    Totally disagree. 

     

    I want the Bills to win a Superbowl. It isn't the "only thing that matters" to me as a fan. Enjoying watching them play matters. Enjoying wins matters. The journey matters. It's the climb. 

     

    That might not be how fandom is for you.... but I am definitely not lying. It is how fandom is for me.


    That’s all good. There’s no ‘correct’ way to be a fan. Hopefully our two outlooks intersect in a superbowl win!

    14 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

    The flip side to that is the harder the journey the more satisfying the reward will be if we do win one.


    Absolutely! Maybe one year these ‘historic stats’ can culminate into something tangible like a Lombardi. 

  14. 8 minutes ago, Bill4Bills said:

    To those of you who say regular season and 'mere' playoff games are meaningless, why do you watch them?  I daresay most, if not all, of you writing those sentiments wouldn't dream of missing a regular season or 'non-Superbowl' playoff game.  Do you feel the same after one of these meaningless game wins as losses?  I've been watching the Bills since Jack Kemp was handing off to Cookie Gilchrist and would like nothing more than a Super Bowl victory for our Bills.  But geesh, we can still appreciate the recent successes they've had and thirst for a Super Bowl victory at the same time.  


    I answered this question a bit on my post above. I’ll expand on that here. Regular season games are only ‘meaningless’ on hindsight once the season ends in yet another heartbreak. In the present we watch to cheer and hope the team can win an advance to continue the fight. It’s not as simple as championships are everything so why even watch any game that’s not the Super Bowl.

  15. 6 hours ago, MJS said:

    If that is indeed the case, why do you watch the games (assuming yoh do)? They are meaningless unless the team is in the superbowl.


    I watch because I root for the team and its players. I want to see them reach the ultimate goal and feel pride as a fan. 
     

    The team have had great success during this run and it has been exhilarating at times. Unfortunately, every year has ended in heartbreak. If championships don’t matter, then why do we hurt so much when they get knocked out every year?
     

    Until they win a Super Bowl, or at least get to one, all regular season successes would always ring hollow. 

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  16. 11 hours ago, BillsFan619 said:

    I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

     

    While a title is the ultimate goal, it doesn’t mean that fans can’t appreciate when their team or an individual on the team do good/great things.

     

    Like I mentioned upthread, my college basketball team has won five NCAA Championships. There’s still other good/great things they’ve done (team or individual) to appreciate besides the titles.

     

    While I hope our continued success leads us to a title, this has been a great half decade of Bills football in many ways. And hopefully it’ll turn into a great decade of Bills football, along with a title.

     

    Go Bills!


    I should clarify. I’m not saying that fans shouldn’t appreciate their teams being good even without championships. But it does diminish any statistical accomplishments without championships. Especially when it’s continuous success like the Bills have had. The longer this statistical success goes on without winning, or even getting to a Super Bowl, the tougher it will be for fans to hang their hats on those successes. That’s all I’m saying.

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