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7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
I'm not sure I buy the loss is "on the offense" but for all of everything that happened in the game to that point you are absolutely right that at the 2:00 warning the Bills were right where they would have wanted to be. In FG territory already, with control of the ball and the clock and the game in Josh Allen's hands. They just couldn't execute on those two plays coming out of the 2 minute warning. On 2nd down if any one of the three things happens: 1. Dion holds his block another split second; 2. Shakir clears coverage slightly quicker (he just gets held up long enough); or 3. Josh is just able to manoeuvre another 6 inches of space in the pocket to get his throw away...... then the Bills score.
The defense played a poor game, undermanned and our executed. But the offense had the chance to make that all moot at the end and failed to execute themselves.
Exactly.
In that situation, Allen should never throw in the end zone. Even if they scored, if the Chiefs scored on their drive, we would talk about this choice.
But, it is a football situation and fair enough.
My problem: if Allen threw it in the end zone, it's because someone told him he can.
Even an Elite QB needs an Elite HC and this situation is the perfect example.
Our HC let it in the hands of our Elite QB. He didnt coach him.
Go get 9 yards, boys. Choose any play you want, but you have 3 plays for 9 yards. Go get the first down.
Another situation when it counts the most where we seems totally lost on the field. Nothing was clear and we had to try a FG with 1m44 left.
It's sad at this point.
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11 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Mahomes won a SB and MVP after trading Tyreek Hill.
he is in the afc championship game with a bottom 5 wide receiver core.
mahomes would win wherever he is.
Just last sunday, Mahomes missed two open receivers in the end zone and when he had the game in his hands in the 4th, he missed his receiver and they had to punt. He has nothing to do with the end of the game. He gave us the ball. Against a decimate defense.
It's fair enough, he can and will make mistakes, but it is the kind of mistake Allen cant make under this regime in those kind of game.
Both are Elite QB and it seems we always talk about an Allen mistakes because he has to be perfect under our regime. If not, we lose.
We dont even talk about Mahomes mistakes.
It say something. They are a team and ready at another level.
For me, it's pretty clear: Give them Allen and we have Mahomes and the Chiefs still win.
Maybe Mahomes is better than Allen. I take Allen first, but i understand we can talk about it. If so, he's slighty better than Allen. Both are Elites.
When we watch carefully on the sideline of both teams, we see two man. They wear a hat. I really think that's where is unfair. One is Elite and know how to coach an Elite QB.
The best we can do is hoping our HC could learn that, but during that time, we found a way to lose in those situations when it counts the most year after year.
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1 hour ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:
Won't win one under this regime.
If they had a Belichick/Harbaugh, they win the SB within two years.
Wouldn't be shocked if Bills fans are forced to see him win it with another team.
Just last sunday...Mahomes missed two open receivers in the end zone...He also had the game in his hand in the 4th quarter against a decimate defense and he missed his receiver. They had to punt.
After the game, he is a God.
Allen and Mahomes are Elite QB. Allen has to be perfect to give us a chance to win that kind of game against the best. We always talk about his mistakes because he has to be perfect! Mahomes not.
And even if he is almost perferct, like scoring the winning TD with only 13 seconds left, we lose and...Mahomes is a God.
We need an Elite HC with our Elite QB if we want to win the last game of the year.
I dont know how it could not be clear.
Then, if we only want to be competitive, we will with an Elite QB, no matter the level of our coaching staff.
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36 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:
The Josh Allen curse is McBeane!
Kind of agree.
Allen gave us the lead with 13 seconds left.
Then, at then end of the game, Mahomes is a god and Allen a loser.
Just last sunday, Mahomes missed two open receivers in the end zone and he had the game in his hand in the 4th quarter against a decimate defense. They had to punt.
At the end of the game, he is a god and Allen a loser.
Those QB are Elite.
But, Allen has to be perfect. We'll talk about his mistakes because he has to be perfect if we want to win.
Mahomes not.
That's the story of those games in playoff. That's why an Elite HC is what a team needs with an Elite QB against the best.
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Money talk and they will not change their mind.
We're not far to have 18 games in a season.
They will find a way to have more playoffs game.
I know it doesnt make sens...but we talk about a lot of money. I mean, a lot!
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11 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
Does Josh still need this level of micromanagement after 6 years ?If Allen threw in the endzone, it's because we told him he can.
If it's clear for a HC in that kind of situation, it will be clear for your Elite QB and all players.
It wasnt clear at all, it's the least i can say.
I understand Mcdermott. We talk about a good HC and an Elite QB.
It was like: I dont know what to do, i hope my Elite QB will.
It was the samething with our defense in this 13 seconds. Nothing was clear.
It's a pattern now.
An Elite QB dosent need an Elite HC in season. Just a good one and we will have a good chance to be in the playoff at the end of the season.
Against the best when it counts the most, he will. It will be the difference between a W or a L.
It's a pattern like i said. It's pretty clear if we just take a little step back.
I will wear my red roses glasses again next year and hoping i am wrong. It's the best i can do as a fan.
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On 1/21/2024 at 10:09 PM, VaMilBill said:
Diggs dropping that bomb. We end of punting in that drive. No points scored. We probably (maybe?) get at least three there if caught.
This is the one that kills me the most. Josh missing the crossing route to Diggs there on the last drive on 2nd and 9. If caught, Diggs definitely gets a first and probably goes down around the 10. It’s plays like these that made a Brady great cause he would see it, take the easy, high percentage, throw and keep the chains moving and the clock ticking. I honestly think at this point Josh will never get us over the hump because of either his inability to see plays like that or unwillingness to take the easy dump off even at crunch time.
Bass missing the FG at the end. Statistically Bass has been one of the worst kickers this season. I’ve been harping about it since the beginning of December. McD simply never trusted him the second half of the season. Last week was a giant flashing sign saying “don’t trust bass!” that McD didn’t heed. Even his XPs tonight were barely eeking in between the uprights. Now I understand if we make that FG, the chiefs still have a lot of time and two TOs, but missing it guaranteed we would lose.
I understand, but a KC fan could write something like that:
The-three-play-that-almost-cost-us-the-game
-Mahomes missed and open receiver in the endzone two times
-Hartman fumble at the one yard
-Mcduffie missed a pick 6 (or we should recover Allen's fumble).
At the end, both team made some mistakes.
I dont talk about the refs that much and it's a good sigh.
Our gameplan was really good and it worked really well.Our defense let KC scored at will...but our offense managed to be on the field and eat clock.
We were at the line of 30 in their zone with the ball at the 2 minuts warning.
We were exactly where we could dream we could be at this point of the game.
It was a 2 and 9.
They blew it.
It's coaching. If it is clear for the HC in those kind of situation, it will be clear for the players.
It wasnt. They seems to be lost after the 2 minuts warning break.We cant change the past, but it should be clear for the players: it's a 2 and 9 and you have 3 plays to win that first down.
Go for it. Go win that 9 yards.
Like i said, it wasnt clear at all and we blew it.
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2 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:
This. ^^^^
McClapper is a decent HC, who will get the max out of his players during the Regular Season. But,when the going gets tough and the stiff teams have been eliminated, McD is revealed as ordinary and incapable of imparting critical close out strategies!
I could never forgive him for the impossibly inept job of 13 seconds.
And then on Sunday, the millions watching that last drive were all on the same page.
The only goal is to drive that ball for one more First Down!
Multiple things are accomplished.
1) You try and bleed every possible remaining second away from Mahomes.
2) Either 17 runs or short passes to Diggs, Shakir or Kincaid are made with < 30 seconds to go!
3) You never,ever, ever try and score with 1:45 and 2 KC TOs! Your defensive coaching has been a disaster. Your D was a total SIEVE all game, giving up 8.5 yards per touch!8.5!!
McClapper tried to post game deflect his catastrophic coaching failure by saying they stopped KC 4/5 Times on third down.
FFS. That’s because they only had FIVE THIRD DOWNS!Knowing that you must,must, must tell Allen,do not go for the TD on Second Down at the 2 minute Warning! Ever.
Again he failed… badly. Why Cook and not Allen ran on first down is another mystery and McD failure to grasp what we could all see unfolding before us.
4) And on 3rd Down, you must get closer for your badly challenged FG Kicker.
Again, failure.
GTG! He just cannot keep up in the big moments!
Some Teams have an Elite HC with a game manager at QB...some others like the Bills have an Elite QB and and a good HC at best.
With an Elite HC, Allen has a SB ring. I'm pretty sure about that.
It is what it is.
I like Mcdermott. I like the man. He works hard, he wants to win. He did the best he can do with what he is as a HC.By example, i also really liked Tyrod Taylor. He took care of the ball and did the best he can do with what he was as a QB.
It's all about the owner. It's all about what he really wants.
Today, we hide the 5-6 record in playoffs by our number of wins in season.
In the real world, in playoff, we won against...
-An old Rivers and the Colts
-the Phins with a no-name at QB,
-the Pats and MacJones (the best game on offense i see in a long time),
-the Steelers and Rudolph
-Jackson and the Ravens (a real good game for Mcdermott).
That's all. It is the best we can do with our Elite QB.
It's not good enough. Absolutely not.
Sometimes, i feel like we are afraid to be better. We're afraid to take any risk.
It has to be that 17 years. We want to win but we dont think as a winner.
It's like we're good and it's enough.
I can deal with it. It's fun to watch. But, we have to say it like it is.
Mcdermott will clearly be there next year. I will root for him.
I'm just a fan and i will hope i am wrong again next year.
I still wish we can win with this HC. If it's fair, for him and all the Bills fans, we will.
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1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:
The point is that the Bills COULD HAVE advanced. Just like the Chiefs did and can beat the Ravens just like the Chiefs can. If the Chiefs come out and play like crap this week, does that mean that they can't beat them if they execute or don't execute? Every team has mishaps. Even the best teams I have seen. The Chiefs are very vulnerable but can be beaten. We absolutely could have beaten every team left. It's about being better that day. Unfortunately, we weren't when it counted. It doesn't mean we couldn't have been. Have you ever looked at a 5th or 6th seed and thought "they can win a championship"? The Steelers did it in 05, the Giants did it in 07. The 2000 Ravens had absolutely no offense to speak of and won a title. We have the team that can win it all. We just have to be on top of our game in the crucial moments. We just didn't this week.
Exactly. We dont know if the Bills would win against the Ravens, but their chances would be better...if they play that game, it's the least i can say.
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Mcdermott is a solid HC and maybe he could win it one day.
He's clearly not at this level. I feel like when he will be ready, Allen will be old.
When it counts the most, year after year, it's like the Bills has no HC.
At the 2 minuts warning, we were exactly where we need to be: we have th ball in Chiefs zone.
You need to have a solid HC to be there.
Then, they discussed at the 2 minuts warning break and suddenly, nothing was clear. They try to eat the clock or score fast? I dont know. It wast clear at all.
In this 13 seconds game, it was the samething. You need to be a solid HC to take the lead at KC in playoff with 13 seconds left.
Then, the defense was totally lost on the field when it counts the most.
When it count the most and it's clear for a HC, it will be damn clear for the players.
When it's not, the players are lost.
Injury or not, no matter what, it happen year after year, when it count the most, we blow it.
At this point, it cannot just be badluck. Clearly not.
5-6 in playoffs say something.
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1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:
Disagree. The offense only scored 7 points in the second half and made no plays over 20 yards. They have no game breakers on offense
Without the Offense, the Chiefs could score 40 points easily yesterday.
It wasnt perfect, they also blew it at the 2 minuts warning, but our best defense was our offense on the field and by far.
The defense did the most they can do, but a lot of offense in the NFL could score at will against them.Thumps up to our offense to eat the clock and find a way to put some points on the board.
It wasnt not enough, but we played a playoff game against the Chiefs with too many -next man up- on defense.
It's sad because i'm pretty sure we win that game with an healty defense.
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6 hours ago, Success said:
Maybe a weird post - but I was both excited about this game, and dreading it. I was excited because winning would have been euphoria - but I expected losing to be completely devastating. As it always has been for me.
I'm actually shocked that I'm in decent spirits right now. It's nothing like previous losses in high-stakes games. I usually can't sleep, but I think I'll sleep fine tonight.
Trying to figure it out. Do I just expect this kind of stuff now? Just curious if anyone else has a similar thing going on....
You're not alone, be sure of that.
The samething happen year after year. We dont need a huge instinct to know what will happen again.
We had all the clues we need during the seasons, but we try to hide it behing all those wins in seasons.
Bottom of line: something will happen each year at the same time of the year. JJWATT show and this famous common sense call, 13 seconds, Hamlin, injuries.
Yesterday, i felt like we could have it at the 2 minuts warning, but i was not in shock at all to see them blew it.
It's a kind of battered women syndrome i guess.
Until we understand we have to try another road to take the next step, it will be that, for the better and the worst.
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Allen and the offense were our best Defense yesterday. The only reason the Chiefs didnt score 40points is because the time our offense was on the field.
A lot of QB could score at will against a backup Defense. They gave us all they can, but there's a limit of this -next man up- concept.
A couple of -next man up- is fine. Others starters could talk to them on the field. But so many bakcup at this time of the year in playoff?
The Chiefs should win this game easily. Our Bills stay in the game by eating the clock a lot on offense.
We can talk about every play we missed, but the Chiefs also missed some play and a big one at the goal line when they fumble the ball.
The offense really did a good job to keep that game close.
It's sad because they did almost everthing they had to do to help the defense, stay in the game, and they kinda blew it at the two minuts warning.
Credits to the Chiefs, but they are very lucky this year. They just played their two playoffs game against decimate defense.
They did what they had to do in both game, but they didnt play against an healtly Bills yesterday and it's part of the game.
Bottom of line, we are 5-6 now in playoffs. It is what it is, no matter behing how many wins in season we want to hide that fact.
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Chiefs Defense will be there. They will try something and they will play with some agressiveness for sure.
They will not just wait for a mistake on Defense. We all know that.
This year, i see something different with our defense in some games.Sometimes not.
We all see the difference when they just wait for a mistake or play to win,
If the Bills had learn something about that kind of soft defense who killed us in playoff against the best QB, they will do whathever it takes to be in Mahomes face, to provoke mistakes and not just waiting for. They will do whathever it takes to make Mahomes scratch his head and not just wait for a mistake.
I hope they had learn something about our lost in playoff since two years.
If they really try and we lose, i can deal with it as a fan.
Then, i really thing the Bills could win that game by playing to win and not just wait and triying to not lose.
The gameplan should not only be a chess game. It's football. We need some agressiveness in that gameplan. A lot.For those who will be there: Help that defense like you always did. Make some noise like you never did. It could be a huge part of that game.
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The Bills could be in a real strange scenario on week 18.
-If they beat the Pats
-If the Ravens beat Miami
-If Bengles or Steelers win their 2 games..
In this scenario..if the Bills beat Miami, they get the no2 seed
but if they lose that game, they are out.
It's a lot of -IF- but it's possible.
Just beat the Pats first. We lost some of those kind of games this year.
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2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
OP you just don't get it.
It's not just one game. It's a pattern of losing from a HC that is wasting the best QB in franchise history.
Nothing more, nothing less than that.
It's right in front of our eyes. It's so obvious. Each week, we talk about the finger that point to the Moon.
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On 11/14/2023 at 4:16 PM, BillMafia716ix said:
62% career winning percentage, 3 Division titles in 4 years. 4 straight double digit win seasons. Only one losing season and that was a rebuild year with a new QB, Defense has consistently been a top ten 10 unit.
Winning culture will always try to win the last game when they feel their window is open.
If they dont win, it's a failure. For those teams, a 13-3 season with a devastating lost at home in playoff is a failure.
Losing culture franchises are happy to be a good team. They dont want to change anything cause they are afraid: it could be worst.
Those teams will hide their devastating lost at home in playoff behind their 13-3 season.
Expectations. Nothing more, nothing less.
I'm not better than anyone as a long time Bills fan. I'm part of it and i will root for them all Sundays.
Then, let be serious: Between the 13 seconds a couple of years ago and the 12 man last year, we have a lot of that kind of weird mistakes.
It's a clear pattern.
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8 hours ago, PBF81 said:
I know that you're a McD apologist, or at least lean heavily in his favor if you disagree with that, so take these comments in that context.
The Ryan era was an unmitigated disaster, but there was some warning when Ryan said that his next coaching job would be his last. That's not a trait of someone that cares whether or not he does a good job. Not saying he didn't care, just saying that it wasn't a good sign.
Having said, that, Ryan didn't have great talent either. We can do a position-by-position analysis if you want. Might be fun in these dry times.
Here's the thing about "culture," it's somewhat of a nebulous thing. The term gets thrown around, but how is it specifically defined. But that appears to be his greatest achievement here as it's always the very first thing out the the mouths of McD apologists.
Allow me to ask however, what's the "culture" right now, today, at this moment?
I don't think that it can be defined as a "winning culture" as his apologists like to assign it.
As to "winning games, breaking the drought and having a couple of good playoff runs," he was barely above .500 in his first three seasons. 25-23
That Peterman thing hangs over him and have been rehashed now in the questioning of his leadership abilities. As minor as it may be, it's become a black stain.
We made the playoffs twice, but in 2017, two other teams had an identical 9-7 record that did not make it, and were both better teams. We beat only two winning teams that season, both 10-6. Otherwise we beat 7 bottom-dwelling teams. We were embarrassed in the playoffs by a former Bills coach featuring a below-average QB. We also needed help (aka luck) from something that we had absolutely no control over.
In 2019 we made the playoffs, but lost a Wild-Card game, again, with McD once again being outcoached.
So any "playoff run" boils down to 2020 - 2022 where we've only been able to win a Divisional game once, in that ill-fated '21 season where McD did anything but play up to "winning culture" in that 13-Seconds game.
Keep in mind that we got lots of help in doing what you suggest, by Brady leaving New England, essentially leaving us to supplant New England as the only decent team in the division. To wit, McD was 0-6 vs. NE with Brady until Allen's breakout season, and when Brady was no longer with the Pats. So the skids were already greased for him there. Our lackluster playoff outcomes are more indicative.
So I'm not sure how you define playoff runs, but we've won only one divisional playoff game in his 6 seasons with his 7th likely not even making the playoffs.
Again, where's that leave that "winning culture" thing?
I'd suggest that the culture isn't positive right now. Do you think it is?
If Pegula even pulls the trigger, and I have my doubts that he will, where would that leave us from a "culture perspective?" I'm not suggesting anything, seriously asking, but the word tentative comes to mind. We likely won't know until things happen. Pegula risks looking like the biggest incompetent in the mix if he does ditch McD given that he just signed him to four more seasons that haven't even begun yet, rather than waiting, which would have been very wise, to see whether what has happened might happen.
If you recall however, following the 2019 season there were plenty of questionmarks and criticism of McD and his "Process," which to date still hasn't even remotely been defined. It's nothing more than a meaningless buzzword.
It wasn't until 2020, when Allen broke out, not McD, Allen, that our "winning culture" became prominent, and again, that also coincided with the Brady-less Pats. The three other QBs in our division that season were the rookie Tagovailoa, Darnold, and Newton. ... for about half of our wins.
Now, look where we are. Can it be overemphasized where our culture is at the moment? There's a major pall over Bills fandom and the coverage of the team, and clearly somethings' going on in the lockerroom as well, not positively.
The point, the point is that if he, not Allen, actually created it, he's also equally responsible for destroying it now, which raises that chicken/egg aka McD/Allen question.
Anyway, food for thought.
Agree with your statement. As a long time Bills fans, i absolutely know i'm not in a winning culture.
We're a good team and after those 17 years, it seems to be enough.
Our window are -was- open and we all know we're not that far.
But, for us, it seems to be an accomplishment. Even this year, we're not playing good football but we're still in the hunt.
For a team in a winning culture,it's not enough and it's a failure to not win the last game when that window is open.
One thing is sure: A winining culture just cant even tolerate a mistake like the 13 seconds when the window is open.
I'm not better than any fan: i'm the first one who wanted to give a chance after that mistake.
At least, we're a good team now i guess.
They turned it around. Finally. Then, this program is clearly - play to not lose- year after year, week after week, except for some games.
It's so conservative.
We'll have some good seasons by playing like that but we'll not win our last game if we tolerate so easily the same mistakes week after week, year after year.
I'm just a fan. It's just how i see it and I really hope i'm wrong.
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On 11/14/2023 at 12:27 AM, Comebackkid said:
surround him with an imcompetent staff.
Exaclty. He could hire Coordinators who can challenge him...It could help his program a lot!
He clearly prefers good soldiers.
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6 hours ago, The Jokeman said:
If the Bills win the coin flip and we win in OT are you still hating McDermott?
I dont think any fan is hating Mcdermott. Not at all.
He's a pro and he is well paid to do his job. It's a real competitve job and we just have to think about Dorsey today to remember that.
We just talk about football. We're fans and we also pay because we love that game, we love our Bills.
whorlnut just point some facts. Mcdermott could hired and fired whoever he wants. It's his job.
Then, it begins to be a lot of coachs who were fired under his program. A lot.
It say something at whoever wants to listen.
Hire and fire coachs until he finds the perfect one is a kind of management but i really think we're near the limit.
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20 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
One line I can't take anymore, "We are WASTING someone as talented as Josh Allen." Allen has elite physical traits, but he does not think the game or have the preparation of an elite QB. Allen's early success was much about the schedule we played and the league playing "prove it" with Allen. Now teams know how to mentally confuse him, and he isn't capable of fixing that. Allen is part of the problem, stop acting like he isn't.
I understand and it's fair enough. But, at the end, i really think it's coaching.
Most of the teams in the NFL dream about having a QB like Allen.
When you have that kind of QB, you have to know how to coach him.
He is confused? He isnt capable of fixing that? Where's the coach???
I really think we are wasting someone as talented as Josh Allen. I really think we have an incredible horse in our stable...but nobody seems to know how to ride him in this staff. We cant be in the head of our players, but it is written in the face of our best players they dont really know what's happen there.
So many high picks and cap space on defense...If you need an average game manager as your QB for your gameplan and the way you want to play, you really waist someone as talented as Josh Allen.
Maybe i'm wrong, maybe you're right...but one thing is sure: If we change nothing, we'll never know and we will stay right where we are.
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5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Said he has confidence in him but things could have been better, then brings up scoring too fast when we got down to the endzone.
That tells me he is not happy with Dorsey.
I agree with Mcdermott. We should scored that TD with less than 13 seconds on the clock...
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How can he win so many yards by running the ball without being in shotgun formation?
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Two years ago, it was our ST coach...Last year, it was our DC...This year it is our OC.
Those coaches have one thing in common.
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It's sad. We love that game, but it is just a game.
This kid had a bad season but he is young. Pretty sure he will work hard this summer and be ready for next year.
Those donations is the best part of the game, even better than any win.
It's really just a game even if we love it.