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    The Vikings allegedly tried hard to trade up to #3

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    On 4/30/2024 at 12:14 PM, Virgil said:

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40052147/how-new-england-patriots-decided-qb-drake-maye-future-no-3-2024-nfl-draft

     

    The Vikings apparently offered #11 and #23, plus their #1 in 2025.  

     

    Now, I'm not sure if they did this before Maye fell to 3rd, or overall prior to the draft.  Without that, there's no way to know if Maye was the target

    Why should I care

    Gonzo 2.0 2 Rounder w/Trades

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    9 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

    I usually try to do 3 versions with version 1 and 3 involving no trades and Version two offering trades that I think could happen. I actually really like how this mock draft played out in general. Commentary for the first round and both Buffalo picks. Enjoy everybody. I will have Version 3.0 out probably on Wednesday night as I do complete a full 7 rounder just for fun to see if I can get any late picks correct.

     

    1. Chicago Bears- Caleb Williams QB USC
    - I'm not even going to really explain this one. Its in the bag.

     

    2. Washington Commanders- Drake Maye QB UNC
    - I would have thought this would be Jayden Daniels but apparently the camp is not happy with the Commanders as he was unaware that multiple QB's would be on his visit and he has let it be known he doesn't want to go to Washington now. This leads me to go with Drake Maye at this pick and I can honestly say i'm not a huge Maye fan but this isn't about my rankings its about what I think will happen.

     

    3. New England Patriots- Jayden Daniels QB LSU
    - I think this one is tough. I keep wanting to put J.J. McCarthy here and my last mock might well have him here but I will still put Jayden Daniels here for now who I have as my # 2 QB in the draft. Daniels can provide a threat with his legs and take the Patriots into current football as they have been living in the past offensively since Brady left.

     

    4. New York Giants(from Arizona)- J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
    - NYG Trade 6,47 to Arizona and receive back 4, and 104 from Arizona. The Giants have to do something here. They can't possibly go with Daniel Jones again and expect to keep their jobs. The Giants go to the well again with the highly experienced national championship winning QB who is ready to play Day 1. The Cardinals chose to take the Giants offer instead of Minnesota because it allows them to still get one of the best players in the draft vs drafting a guy from the second tier.

     

    5. Los Angeles Chargers- Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio State
    - The Chargers could go Oline here but the best WR in the draft is literally staring them in the eye, its a need, and Jim Harbaugh got the pleasure of watching Harrison first hand for the last couple of years. Harrison is lucky as all hell to be drafted by the Chargers with a star QB to work with instead of going to a team starting completely over.

     

    6. Arizona Cardinals(from NYG)- Malik Nabers WR LSU
    - The Cardinals drop down a couple of spots and still get a true # 1 WR in the NFL while picking up an additional 2nd rounder to build their awful roster still. If anything Arizona's GM shows that their willing to move around the board and gladly take the premium pick to slot Nabers in with Tre McBride to rebuild the Cardinals passing attack.

     

    7. Tennessee Titans- Joe Alt OT Notre Dame
    - This pick essentially comes down to Alt vs Odunze and with the signing of Calvin Ridley, Tackle moves to the top of the list and Alt is clearly the # 1 Tackle in this draft.

     

    8. Indianapolis Colts(from Atlanta)- Rome Odunze WR Washington
    - Colts Trade 15, 46 to Atlanta, Colts receive 8 and 104. I have always thought that the Colts would go WR in this draft because they really only have Pittman to throw to. Alec Pierce has been a disappointment and Josh Downs is a nice piece but the Colts need another bondafied weapon to develop Anthony Richardson. They are also in a weapons war now with the Houston Texans and Jaguars for supremecy in the AFC South.

     

    9. Chicago Bears- Jared Verse DE Florida State
    - The Bears are left in a tough spot as they would prefer one of the top 3 WR's to drop but the Colts snipe them a pick before and with only 4 draft picks they would love to trade down but there is really no one worth trading up for at this current moment. With that happening, the Bears take who I believe is the best Defensive End in this draft in Verse.

     

    10. New York Jets- Brock Bowers TE Georgia
    - The Jets also miss out of the top 3 WR's and this pick will come down to either Bowers or one of the offensive Tackels in Fuaga or Fautanu. The Jets filled their spots on the offensive line in Free Agency and decide to get a weapon for Aaron Rodgers to go with Mike Williams and Garrett Wilson.

     

    11. Minnesota Vikings- Bo Nix QB Oregon
    - This pick I went back and forth on. I said well the Vikings can get this guy at 23 but if what I'm reading about Penix and the Raiders that puts the Vikings in a very vulnerable state to be left out of the "first round QB" market. I also think that if Nix is on the board at 19, the Rams would seriously consider taking him to be the successor to Matthew Stafford. The Vikings take zero chances here and select Nix to make sure they get their guy after being shut out of the trade up.

     

    12. Jacksonville(from Denver)- Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo
    - Jaguars trade 17, 96 to Denver, Jaguars receive 12. The Broncos need to completely retool their roster as well and have been looking to trade down in this draft and the Jaguars reciprocate. The Jags need WR help but not near as much as they need some CB help and the Jaguars move up to get the # 1 CB in this draft in Mitchell while giving up a late 3rd round pick.

     

    13. Las Vegas Raiders- Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
    - By all reports the Raiders love Michael Penix Jr. and if they love him then they have to take him at 13 instead of trying to trade up from the 44th position into the teens or 20's. If they did that they would for sure be giving up their 2025 first round pick which they can't afford to do at this point so they grab Penix here to be their future QB.

     

    14. New Orleans Saints- Taliese Fuaga OT Oregon State
    - The Saints have their choice of who they believe is the #2 Tackle in the draft and they chose to go with the versatile Fuaga who can play all over the offensive line. Even if Fuaga fails at Tackle, he could potentially be an all pro guard in the NFL and presents an incredibly safe but needed pick for the Saints.

     

    15. Atlanta Falcons(from Indy)- Byron Murphy DT Texas
    - This pick has come to light in the last couple of days in the rumor mill and I don't believe that Murphy is worth the 8th pick in the draft. This is why the Falcons move back and grabs Indy's second round pick in the process. Murphy fills a need and is strongly considered the # 1 DT in the draft this year by most pundits.

     

    16. Seattle Seahawks- Troy Fautanu OT Washington
    - These types of picks worry me much like the previous one with Murphy and Atlanta. This has been a long rumor for the Seahawks and when those rumors are out there this long before the draft it either makes me think smokescreen or someone jumping the Seahawks to take Fautanu to ruin the pick. Still I will go with this pick as it does make a ton of sense.

     

    17. Denver Broncos(from Jacksonville)- Dallas Turner DE Alabama
    - The Broncos trade down, get a premium pick and still get Turner at pick # 17. This very well could be Verse if the Bears decide to take Turner at # 9 and watch Verse tumble down the board. The Broncos are in a full rebuild but need help with their pass rush and Turner could represnt BPA at this point in the draft.

     

    18. Cincinnati Bengals- Amarius Mims OT Georgia
    - I wouldn't have picture putting Mims as the 4 OT off the board(if you could Fautanu as a tackle) but the Bengals have spent a ton of time with Mims in the predraft process and they need a tackle and to protect Joe Burrow's fragile self. Mims has only started 8 games in college and is raw but has a ton of upside to become a high level tackle in time.

     

    19. Los Angeles Rams- Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
    - The Rams have other needs as well most notably on their defensive line but they also have a need at CB despite signing a couple of vets including Tre White. Arnold is just sitting here for them to take and the Rams don't pass on the opportunity to take Arnold here.

     

    20. Pittsburgh Steelers- Graham Barton OC Duke
    - For the longest time people were mocking JPJ to the Steelers but the rumor mill is stating that JPJ is sliding and not likely to be a first round pick and Barton has been flying up the draft boards for awhile. Barton's versatility is helping in this late process and the Steelers even came out and said that they see Barton as a Center. Check and Mate with that being said as it is the Steelers biggest need by far.


    21. Miami Dolphins- Xavier Worthy WR Texas
    - Is it their biggest need absolutely not but the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel love speed. McDaniel has been seen in numerous videos and pictures fawning over Worthy like a school aged girl trying to gain the attention of the fastest man in school. Worthy would give the Dolphins even more speed and could potentially be Jaylen Waddles/Tyreek Hills replacement down the line.

     

    22. Philadelphia Eagles- Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
    - The Eagles need secondary help in the worst way and get a top level man to man cover corner in Nate Wiggins to start re-tooling the secondary for the Eagles.

     

    23. Buffalo Bills(from Minnesota)- Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
    - Buffalo trades 28, 128, 144, and a 2025 4th Rounder to Minnesota for pick # 23. I want to preface this that this draft is incredibly hard to predict once you get outside the first 8 or so prospects. Thomas could go as high as 12 or drop down to around this spot in the draft. I think if he made it to this range it would be too tempting for the Bills to sit on their hands. Thomas is the big vertical threat that everyone is hoping for in this draft that can play the boundary. I also want to state that I do not favorite the Bills in these things despite being a fan but it just happened to play out this way after picking through each teams information. The Bills jump ahead of the Cowboys for a 2nd straight year to snag a skill player they wanted.

     

    24. Dallas Cowboys-Olu Fashanu OT Penn State
    - I can't tell you why but Olu Fashanu is dropping like a rock in the pre draft process. He was once considered a possible top 8 pick in the draft but he falls all the way to the 24th pick in the draft. The Cowboys have a huge need on the offensive line as they lost Tyron Smith, Tyler Biadisz, and Martin is getting extremely old. This allows Fashanu to slide in at LT while leaving everybody else in their current positions.


    25. Green Bay Packers- Cooper DeJean CB/S Iowa
    - The Packers take DeJean here and can play him either at Cornerback or Safety in their system. They have a need at both positions even with the signing of Xavier McKinney. DeJean has good versatility and the Packers would start him at Cornerback with the hole opposite of Jaire Alexander who also isn't exactly on solid footing in Green Bay after his antics.

     

    26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Chop Robinson DE Penn State
    - The Buccaneers have a big need at Edge and Robinson presents a high upside player who is also a safer pick than Laiatu Latu. Robinson will have to improve his production but he is going to a team that has a defensive HC who can mold him hopefully into what team's believe he can be.

     

    27. Los Angeles Chargers(From Arizona)- Jordan Morgan OT Arizona
    - Chargers Trade pick # 37 and 69 to Arizona and Receives pick # 27 and 138. The Chargers trade back into the first round and fill their second biggest need which is Left Tackle by selecting Morgan. With the selections on offensive tackle and the gauntlet of teams that need at Tackle ahead of them the Chargers don't take any chances by going up and getting Morgan while sliding into Arizona's spot.

     

    28. Minnesota(from Buffalo)- Laiatu Latu DE UCLA
    -Latu is another one that is an anamoly. He has the talent to be a top 15 pick in the draft but he has a ton of medical red flags that could derail his career. The Vikings have spent a lot of time with Latu and hosted him on a 30 visit and decide to take the chance at pick 28 after allowing Buffalo to move up in the draft.

     

    29. Washington Commanders(from Detroit)-J.C. Latham OT Alabama
    - Commanders trade 36 and 100 to Lions for pick 29. There are strong rumors that the Commanders are going to move in into the end of the first round, much for the same reasoning I had the Chargers move up in the draft. The well on ready tackles is running dry and the Commanders go up and get Latham.

     

    30. Baltimore Ravens- Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
    - The Ravens grab the last ready made OT at pick # 30 by taking Guyton at pick 30.

     

    31. San Francisco 49ers- Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
    - This one interests me a lot as McConkey seems to be gaining traction in this spot with the uncertainty of Brandon Aiyuk. I do think McConkey is worthy of a late first round selection and would honestly be a great fit in a Kyle Shanahan type offense.

     

    32. Kansas City Chiefs- Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama
    - The Chiefs could go a couple of different directions but the value the McKinstry provides is too much for the Chiefs to pass up on at this point. He steps in to fill the loss of Sneed.

     

    2nd Round.

    33. Carolina Panthers- Adonai Mitchell WR Texas
    34. New England Patriots- Troy Franklin WR Oregon
    35. Arizona Cardinals- Jer'zahn Newton DT Illinois
    36. Detroit(from Washington)- Zach Frazier OG West Virginia
    37. Arizona Cardinals(from LAC)- Darius Robinson DE Missouri
    38. Tennessee Titans- Keon Coleman WR Florida State
    39. Carolina Panthers(from NYG)- Jackson Powers Johnson OC Oregon
    40. Washington Commanders(from Chicago)- Ja'Tavion Sanders TE Texas
    41. Green Bay(from NYJ)- Braden Fiske DT Florida State
    42. Houston(from Min)- Ennis Rakestraw CB Missouri
    43. Atlanta Falcons- Kamari Lassister CB Georgia
    44. Las Vegas Raiders- Max Melton CB Rutgers
    45. New Orleans(from Den)- Kris Jenkins DT Michigan
    46. Atlanta Falcons(from Ind)- Ricky Pearsall WR Florida
    47. Arizona Cardinals(from NYG thru Sea)- T.J. Tampa CB Iowa State
    48. Jacksonville Jaguars- Xavier Legette WR South Carolina
    49. Cincinnati Bengals- T'Vondre Sweat DT Texas
    50. Philadelphia Eagles(from NO)- Tyler Nubin S Minnesota
    51. Pittsburgh Steelers- Roman Wilson WR Michigan
    52. Los Angeles Rams- Marshawn Kneeland DE/DT Western Michigan
    53. Philadelphia Eagles- Mike Sainristil CB Michigan
    54. Cleveland Browns- Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
    55. Miami Dolphins- Cooper Beebe OG Kansas State
    56. Dallas Cowboys- Trey Benson RB Florida State
    57. Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Kiran Amegadjie OT Yale
    58. Green Bay Packers- Payton Wilson LB NC State
    59. Houston Texans- Javon Bullard S Georgia

     

    60. Buffalo Bills- Cole Bishop S Utah
    - The Bills needs are very hard to meet in this area of the draft and Bishop to me has the potential to be the best safety to come out of this draft. Safety presents the best value at this time as I believe both DT and DE would be a reach at this spot. They could go unconventional and grab a Tackle, CB, or RB here but Bishop is a hell of a player who had the pleasure of covering last year's first round pick Dalton Kincaid in practice everyday last year.

     

    61. Detroit Lions- Andru Phillips CB Kentucky
    62. Baltimore Ravens- Ja'lynn Polk WR Washington
    63. San Francisco 49ers- Patrick Paul OT Houston
    64. Kansas City Chiefs- Malachi Corley WR Western Kentucky

     

    Just curious, according to your draft, no one after us at 23 picks a WR way past our original spot at 28 so why do we trade up?

    Does Beane have a trade with Schoen Lined Up???

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    On 4/4/2024 at 4:21 PM, cbatl32 said:

    I was just thinking about how Beane wouldn't have traded Diggs without a plan in place.  I started thinking that would be very difficult because it's hard to know who will be available even if we traded up to pick 9 with the Bears.  No guarantee that the top 3 WRs would even be still on the board.  But.....what if Beane and Schoen already have a deal for the 6 pick?  If you think about it, Schoen was here when we traded the 10th pick (Mahomes sigh) for the 27th pick and a first the next year.  And we used that to get Josh.  Schoen knows he needs a QB but doesn't really have the chance to get one of the top 4 this year without mortgaging the future.  

     

    So what if Schoen is looking to acquire extra ammo for 2025 draft so they can move up next year for their "Josh Allen".  We could package something like this year's first, fourth and fifth, plus our first and Minnesota's second next year.  That would be pretty close in value on the Rich Hill chart.  It would still allow NYG to grab a top WR at 28, pick up some extra picks this year, but then have two 1s and a very high 2 next year to get their QB.

     

    Am I crazy for thinking that they may have already discussed/agreed on something like this?  It would basically ensure we get one of Nabors/MHJ/Odunze.

    But at pick 6 the top 3 might also be gone. Which makes this post moot.

    Running Back- whats the plan?

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    On 3/15/2024 at 8:38 AM, NoSaint said:

    CEH and Brady have history

     

    foreman could also play in a stretch if cook rolls an ankle

     

    I suspect one of these two plus a day 3 pick while will fight with Ty for active roster vs practice squad 

    CEH ?

    KC makes Sneed available for Trade

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    14 hours ago, Success said:

    KC worship & KC paranoia are getting pretty carried away on this board.

     

    I get that they have been a nemesis in the playoffs, but some fans are getting way over the top.

     

    I agree, one more completion in the playoffs and this would be moot.

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    KC's final TD Play: Tom and Jerry

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    On 2/13/2024 at 8:00 PM, Old Coot said:

    Interesting analysis of the play in which KC scored its winning TD.

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/anatomy-of-a-play-how-the-chiefs-won-super-bowl-lviii-with-tom-and-jerry/ar-BB1iampP

     

    The play originally was called "Corndog" and later "Tom & Jerry" KC scored 2 TDs in a previous Super Bowl win and the winning TD on Sunday with the play concept.

     

    If you look at the links to the three plays in the above link here's what you see:

     

    The WR who eventually gets the ball starts from the outside of a bunch. Here moves laterally to ward the center of the formation for about three steps and then does a quick 180 degree turn and moves laterally in the opposite direction to until he gets to the bunch at which point the ball is hiked. Kelsey (who is in the bunch) takes his man inside or up into the end zone. The man in motion runs to the flat and is wide open.

     

    An excellent example of Reid scheming a guy open.

     

    This is an interesting concept and one that the Bills should incorporate in their Red Zone offense.

    Number one that I saw was Mahomes starts running to his right, that freezes the defender in the end zone his thought is I can't let him score. Do I cover a receiver or stop Mahomes?

    Doesn't that sound like something the Bills did up until Dorsey took over.

    Run to the right, pass or run it in option.

    Josh running out of time?

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    11 hours ago, That's No Moon said:

    Josh is 28 next season. Very few people on that list past 32 or 33. Very few.  4-5 years left to get it done sort of adds a bit more urgency dontcha think?

    Yes! So let's keep hiring experiments for coordinators.

    Bobby Babich Staying, Promoted to DC!

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    9 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

    Don’t bother with this guy, he is on a constant whining rant, just look at his last ten or so posts, says it all right there, 

    Hey thanks I didn't know I had a rep, just trying to add a little devil's advocate. Some times guys have a tendency to drink a little too much Kool aid.

    Bobby Babich Staying, Promoted to DC!

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    56 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

    Agree, but who gives a rats sack about #1 AFCE?  It’s SB or bust with Josh Allen as the QB! I don’t really enjoy the Bills being the Chiefs post season B1t$#’s! 

    What I was trying to get at is when did we get in the business of training coordinators when we should be concentrating on winning the SB.

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    Bobby Babich Staying, Promoted to DC!

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    1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said:

    He very well could be a great DC but to this point he is unproven at the position just like Dorsey was and just like Brady is.  Not a fan of gambling with these BFF hires.

     

    We need a DC that can scheme to beat the Chiefs…for the next several years, the SB goes through them and through 4 post seasons they own the Bills (see DVOA post).  
     

    There is zero reason to suspect this Bills team can unseat the Chiefs with the retention and repositioning of the coaching staff.  

    We were #1 AFCE looking to go to the Superbowl when we promoted Dorsey with no OC experience. Now we're in the same situation #1 AFCE and hiring a DC with no experience, what evidence do we have that this will turn out any different?

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    Bass = Norwood

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    On 11/26/2023 at 9:02 PM, Bagwell358 said:

    He’s mentally screwed and I’m afraid we have seen his best.

     

    he’s become a middle of the road kicker.

    He's broken, mentally I don't think he is capable to kick for the Bills anymore.

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