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On 5/1/2022 at 9:44 AM, Mr. WEO said:
It was a nod to the fans. very popular predraft character.
The fun thing about the punters taken in this draft is that the Ravens took the first punter Jordan Stout with pick 130 which the Bills gave them to move up for Elam. Then the Bills took the third punter Matt Araiza with pick 180 which they received for trading down for James Cook. Henceforth we'll always compare the careers of those two along with Jake Carmada who Tampa Bay took at pick 133.
Which of the three will have the best career?
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19 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Is the guy he handed his notebook to Defensive Backs Coach John Butler? I think so.
6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:The big plus for me is competition level......Elam is covering guys that are expected to be top receivers for their NFL team. He is coming from some small cool and hope that talents translate to competition at the NFL Level.
It seems like you're writing two different ideas above. Elam played at Florida which is SEC. He played against Alabama (Jameson Williams and John Metchie) so yes, he played at a high level of competition.
2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:so im trying to watch some of his games... i have watched 2 games so far... not one time did I see him try a lame tackle or not react well to a tackle... Sometimes scout reports are duplicated so many times, that unless you watch the dudes games... you would believe them. I think he is a fine open field tackler and I think by the time the dusk has settled at the end of the year... they either let him man the #2 wr and play mixed man/zone (many teams do this) or they play zone on his side and let trey man up... bottom line if he turns out to be a really strong #2... you can do so much more on defense. When Tre went down... we were stuck in zone hell
You make two great points:
1) It's not so much scouts as writers who duplicate content and repeat fallacies (i.e.-poor tackler).
2) There are some "prominent" posters here who are arguing that the Bills don't need another good CB because they run a CB-friendly system. Those people are missing the point (you made) that the Bills have been limited as to what coverages they can play due to average talent at CB2. Now they have no such restrictions and McFrazier can now really turn the heat up on offenses and change up their coverage schemes.
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2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:
Also hate the Dick Jauron type fascination with smallish tweener type of players like this whose only real contribution may be on ST. When is this team going to learn that these type of guys are the reason physical teams like the Titans, Colts, etc continue to have our way with us? Also what is different with this guy that says he's going to be able to hold up in pass defense against the leagues elite QB's like Mahomes that continue to beat the Bills when it matters.
If you haven't already you should read what Last Guy... says below:
7 hours ago, Last Guy on the Bench said:What's this stuff about McDermott's good old boys, or small overachievers? Strange narrative. Is it just based on McD's personality and his own story? Because the Bills have been CONSISTENTLY drafting high RAS guys - explosive athletes with good positional size. Where are they small or overachievers?
They are drafting giants on OL. DL guys are good sized - Groot makes McD look like a chipmunk. Edmunds is huge for that position. Josh is huge. Their starting corners have decent size. There are a few smallish players, like Milano, who can really ball anyway. And the receivers aren't that big right now. But overall, they have clearly been prioritizing guys with superior athletic traits (including size) who also happen to be very self-motivated football junkies. They've also been trying to get faster, and this draft class will help that.
The Bills are not a team of plucky underdogs.
What's more, look at the Bills free agent acquisitions... DaQuan Jones, Tim Settle, Jordan Phillips... Rodger Saffold and Dave Quessenberry on the offensive side. Say what you want about these players but they have one thing in common.
It's pretty obvious the Bills are trying to increase their physicality on the lines.
Beane has said from the moment he arrived that football is won and lost at the line of scrimmage.
The Bills have size at the positions where size is important.
And they're trying to get faster at the positions where speed is more important than size.
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50 minutes ago, junior said:
So if the running game is slumping Week 12 because we're forcing Singletary into a 1A/1B situation with Cook, what's the plan for the rest of the season and playoffs? To keep doing it because the tail doesn't wag the dog? Or to stick Singletary as the clear cut #1?
My answer to you is my answer and a question to you:
My answer is that if Singletary can't be effective in a time share then two of Cook, Moss or Duke Johnson had better be.
My question is, if you were McDermott would you give Singletary the lion's share of the work (and keep the other RBs on the bench) simply because he can't be effective in a time share?
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8 hours ago, H2o said:
Now the question will be who sticks at RB on the roster? After Cook, Singletary is a lock. He's not going anywhere. Taiwan Jones was resigned for ST purposes. I don't see them cutting him, though it could possibly happen depending on how the ST group shakes out. I think both Moss and Johnson are on the roster bubble at this point. We usually only have 2 active RB's on game day because of how they use Taiwan. The 3rd guy is really going to have to stand out and I believe Johnson will show more value than Moss.
It's a fair question as to which running backs are active on game day but we have to remember that we have a new OC. There's tons of speculation that Dorsey will use more 12 personnel, possibly 21 personnel. We can't assume that there will only be 3 running back active on game day.
That said I agree that either Moss or Duke Johnson will make the team but not both.
7 hours ago, junior said:Singletary started performing much better once he became the #1 guy, who got the overwhelming majority of touches out of the backfield. He never seemed to get into a groove when he and Moss were 1A and 1B. Not saying it can't be done with Cook, but I'm not holding out hope that Singletary will perform like he did the back half of the year if he's in a near-equal timeshare with Cook.
With Singletary on the last year of his contract, he'd better perform regardless of the time share or he'll be replaced. A team can't carry a player who can only perform well under certain circumstances... the tail doesn't wag the dog.
5 hours ago, Ralonzo said:James won’t be a lead back or a bell cow but what differentiates him from 90% of backs is that he is not limited in the passing game to “release and present numbers” routes. Most of what Georgia did with him looks like what the Saints do with Kamara - most of the time. Run him on quick hitters, or have him release to the flat as an outlet. (That may have something to do with QB limitations too)
But once in a while, they’ll use ‘em in a place that you don’t see RBs pre-snap, like wide on the boundary. Each of those guys can run routes like receivers, track the ball like receivers, catch like receivers. That’s the X-factor with Cook or Kamara. You leave them isolated on a LB at the boundary, that’s a tremendous mismatch, unlike, say, Patrick DiMarco on a wheel route.
I was a proponent of Cook in the 3rd or 4th pre-draft, I hoped for Andersen in the 2nd and Cook in the 3rd as the draft developed, but I’m not going to be put off of what I saw as Cook’s possibilities in this offense due to a perceived reach on draft value.
Excellent point. Cook is not simply a screen pass or swing pass back. He goes out into the pattern like Marshall Faulk. He's THAT kind of receiving back.
Those that wanted to see the Bills draft a WR more highly are somewhat missing this point.
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36 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:
Thanks. Good explanation. I agree about the Keuchle-Edmunds comparison; there is no comparison. Keuchle was a classic middle linebacker against the run (not a Butkus, but a guy who could plug the line between the tackles, as well as being a solid asset in pass defense. Edmunds is better in the passing game, but not the force in the middle.
The question is how much the wave will turn toward running. I don't think it will turn too much. Baseball, basketball, and football are big businesses trying to create a successful product to put on TV.
I think where that trend is going is toward more Deebos. I think that's clearly what McBeane were thinking in this draft. Cook is a Deebo-type - not so powerful, but a guy who truly can play both running back and receiver and hurt you at either position. And I think they see Bernard as a Deebo-defender, a guy they can put on the field who can play both run defense and pass defense - if the Bills are playing the Niners and Bernard is on the field, McDermott's defense will be able to adjust and matchup okay, wherever Deebo lines up. That's who Poyer, Hyde and White are, that's who Milano is, that's who Johnson is, but all of those guys are more one than the other. Bernard and Cook are more like true two-position players.
Agree that the pendulum will not swing back towards the running game.
Agree that there has been a Deebo effect in the league. While watching video of Kahlil Shakir I was immediately reminded of Deebo Samuel and also Robert Woods.
Shakir has that slightly hunched over shifty running style reminiscent of Woods (who typically ran the ball 20-25 times per season for the Rams) and Shakir is very much a collision runner.
For those who are bellyaching that we didn't get Josh any more weapons both he and Cook are excellent "run after the catch" players. Both are excellent open-field runners.
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44 minutes ago, DCofNC said:
As for the D getting bigger with him in instead of Johnson, it sounds good, BUT you get slower and lose coverage ability, so unless the team you are playing goes to 2 WR, when is he getting on the field? He’s not taking the job of either of the LBs and he’s not a safety, so he’s not going on the field as an extra guy in pass coverage that can defend the run. He’s a tweener, he’ll likely suffer the same fate most of them do, be a ST player or cut.
Again, Bernard allowed ZERO touchdowns in 983 career coverage snaps.
He also had 16 sacks and is considered an excellent blitzer.
If the Bills go to more 4-3 sets they'll be better versus the run and it's unlikely he'll be a liability versus the pass.
As for playing time besides playing in 4-3 sets he'll also backup both Edmunds who has missed 4 games in 4 seasons and Milano who has missed 11 games in 5 seasons.
He'll be on the field plenty.
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Dane Brugler in his draft compendium "The Beast" had Terrell Bernard as his 12th ranked LB and gave him a 4th round grade.
The Bills made him the 7th LB drafted.
This is what Brugler had to say about him:
BACKGROUND: Terrel (tuh-RELL) Bernard, who is one of six children, was raised in La Porte (a bay town southeast of Houston) by his mother (Laura). He started playing sports at age 6 but chose to focus on football when he attended La Porte High and made varsity as a freshman. Playing both inside and outside linebacker, Bernard earned First Team All-District honors as a sophomore with 114 tackles, 7.0 tackles for loss and two interceptions. As a junior, he again earned All-District honors with 148 tackles, 9.0 tackles for loss, 5.0 sacks and two interceptions (one returned for a touchdown). Bernard led La Porte to a 9-3 record as a senior and had his best season with 201 tackles, 12.0 tackles for loss and 5.0 sacks. He was named Second Team All-State and District MVP in 2016 and saw time on offense as a running back all four seasons, finishing his prep career with 10 rushing touchdowns.
A three-star recruit out of high school, Bernard was the No. 66 outside linebacker in the 2017 recruiting class and the No. 141 recruit in the state of Texas. He started receiving scholarship offers as a sophomore and finished with offers from Power 5 programs like Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Northwestern and Texas Tech. Bernard committed to Houston the summer before his senior year, but when Matt Rhule was hired as Baylor’s head coach in December 2016, Rhule was able to flip him to Baylor shortly before signing day. Bernard graduated with his degree in health, kinesiology and leisure studies (August 2020) and recently received his master’s degree in sports management (December 2021). Bernard accepted his invitation to the 2022 Senior Bowl.
STRENGTHS: Plays with plus speed and range ... moves well laterally to track the football up-and-down the line of scrimmage ... trusts his eyes and diagnoses quickly vs. the run to fill (Rhule: “He’s just a great football mind.”) ... resets his vision well to adjust his movement patterns on the fly ... has the foot quickness to give blockers the slip ... alert and active in zone coverage with smooth coverage transitions ... flow-fast blitzer who finished his career No. 3 in school history in sacks (16.5) ... adequate length and tackling strength with room to add bulk ... wants to be a strength coach after his playing days and invests in his conditioning ... disciplined by nature and was a senior captain (head coach Dave Aranda: “When I think of the heart, soul, and character of our team, I think of him.”) ... productive with a pair of 100-tackle seasons on his résumé.
WEAKNESSES: Lacks ideal size by NFL standards ... adequate vision, but his anticipation is lacking ... tends to see the ball through a straw and must do a better job locating impending blockers ... doesn’t have explosive hands when attacking blocks ... overaggressive downhill and can get sucked up too far or out-leveraged on the edge ... reactive in coverage and can be caught flat-footed in man-to-man ... battled through several injuries in college: suffered a season-ending fractured shoulder
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and torn labrum that required surgery (November 2020); broke his right hand that required surgery (November 2019), but didn’t miss any time; missed one game as a senior because of a knee scope (September 2021); redshirted in 2017 after breaking his foot ... didn’t play on kickoff coverage in college.
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Baylor, Bernard was the weakside linebacker in head coach Dave Aranda’s 3-3-5 base scheme and played mostly to the field side. He consistently filled up the stat sheet with 8.4 tackles per game over the past three seasons, and both of his head coaches in Waco (Rhule and Aranda) were eager to praise his leadership and integrity. Bernard is always involved in plays because of his play speed and inside-out range, showing the ability to unlock and accelerate in any direction. He tends to be too reactive at times and doesn’t have the play strength or heavy hands to quickly dispose of blockers at the point of attack. Overall, Bernard is undersized and doesn’t have the anticipation of a playmaker, but he has disciplined eyes and athletic range to cover space, projecting as a fourth linebacker and potential down-the-road NFL starter.
GRADE: 4th Round
As a few other posters here have astutely pointed out, the Bills play a Base 4-2-5. Numerous people are harping on Bernard being undersized however if he comes in the game for Taron Johnson and the Bills mix in more 4-3 looks, the defense becomes BIGGER.
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On 4/29/2022 at 7:59 PM, Freddie's Dead said:
Parham should have been the pick. This guy could have been had with one of our 6th round picks or maybe even a UDFA. There's no highlight reel for him on youtube, and no one has him listed as a day 1 starter. A real reach in the 3rd round. A true WTF pick.
Okay... we should have waited till the 6th round to draft him?
On 4/29/2022 at 8:11 PM, Rocket94 said:I found a film where guys are raving about him. Have to root for the guy and unleash him!
Feel free to provide a link to that. Thanks.
On 4/29/2022 at 8:11 PM, NewEra said:So after a few Nisan of scouting, we may have drafted Matt Milano 2.0. Or smaller Tyrel Dodson 2.0.
at worst, we have Matakavichs replacement. Let’s snag that 3.5M!
Is that a Japanese unit of measure?
On 4/29/2022 at 8:36 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:Did he wear #2 or #26 or both? So….Confused
Both.
On 4/30/2022 at 9:25 AM, Shaw66 said:In short, I think Bernard is another (I hate the phrase) Swiss army knife. He's a good football player whom McDermott wants on the field. McDermott's pass defense schemes are somewhat ahead of the league, generally, and I think McDermott thinks Bernard may be the prototype for a different defender, a guy who's a combo linebacker/safety who's also a pass rusher.
I don't know, but I am sure there are very good reasons why Bernard is now a Buffalo Bill.
"Chess piece" works well too.
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12 hours ago, NewEra said:
Defense and offense…. Typical
Right?
Football players... Typical
22 minutes ago, NewEra said:You are correct. I was listening to a couple scouting reports and both mentioned this as a problem, but neither went into detail about it. It was late and I didn’t look into it any further. Til now.
Looks like their problem with it is that he’s too skinny and will break.
Apologies. Now get back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Yeah BMI is something that was used in the 1960s when I was a kid. It's simplistic to the point of irrelevance.
Not only does it not take into account muscle versus fat, but it also ignores bone diameter and density as well as lung capacity.
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19 hours ago, Perry Turtle said:
White and Elam could be the best pair of cornerbacks the Bills have ever had.
That raises a good question
- Butch Byrd-Booker Edgerson
- Robert James-Tony Greene (before he switched to safety)
- Mario Clark-Charles Romes
- Antoine Winfield-Nate Clements
Seems like I'm missing one more pair.
16 hours ago, Doc said:And the Ravens were obviously shopping the 23rd pick to more than just the Bills. That's common sense.
This.
Any team that's willing to trade down is obviously going to shop that pick to as many teams as possible to maximize their compensation.
It's more likely than not that there was at least one other team interested in pick 23.
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24 minutes ago, FLFan said:
Epic fail on the negatives.
1. Edmunds type of player? What does that even mean? If it means 5 year starter, defensive signal caller, defensive captain, and multiple pro bowls, please sign me up.
2. Beane does not have a great track record? Ed Oliver - starter and at times dominant. 5th yer option picked up and still improving. White - pro bowler and elite CB1. Edmunds- already covered. Rousseau - 1st year starter. OK then.
3. Beane scrambled? What is the evidence of that. He had a player targeted above others and got him. We do not even know, and never will, if he wanted McDuffie.
4. Move ahead of 1 team? Wrong. If Baltimore was moving the pick, every other team was in play. By the way, we do not know that Dallas did not want this player. Their reaction at the draft table after the Bills trade and selection was announced indicated they may well have been targeting the same player.
People here are treating point #4 like it's quantum physics. It's really disturbing.
21 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:I believe the prevailing thought was Tennessee was trying to jump us to get Elam, and partly evidenced by the fact that when we jumped Dallas and picked Elam, Titans immediately traded out of the round. So it wasnt just Dallas we were worried about.
20 minutes ago, Sweats said:The Dallas war room looked awfully sombre.........i loved every minute of it.
The team that let Elam's Dad use Jerry Jones' private jet?
I'm not a highlight guy... here's the game between Alabama and Florida last season... Elam (#5) versus Jameson Williams (#1) and John Metchie (#8).
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7 hours ago, HappyDays said:1) Football character
2) Length
3) Skill set built for zone
4) Athletic upside
He checks all the boxes.
5) Pedigree (Dad and Uncle)
6) Youth (20 years old)
7) Fills a major roster hole
6 hours ago, Governor said:Well, we got the last Option at CB on our board after McDuffie was snagged away from us. No one can say it was the guy “we wanted.” He was the guy “we needed”’ since the others were gone. We made the pick based strictly on need as opposed to BPA.
There’s really no reason to make excuses about any of it. KC sneakily clowned us with the help of NE. It happens. We’re the hunted now and didn’t see it coming.
We’ll have the last laugh.
If you account for the Bills' habit of drafting elite physical traits and high RASs in the 1st round (Josh, Tremaine, Rousseau), you would doubt the Bills had McDuffie ranked ahead of Elam.
6 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:I don’t understand the whole thing. McD always says his CBs need to tackle and of the top CBs, Elam had a specific negative by Lance Zierlien of “weak run support”. Booth, who was still available, was noted for great run support and tackling. They could’ve just stayed at 25 and taken Booth.
Booth? The guy who wasn't drafted in the 1st round?
4 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:Looking at the Bills coaching staff with DB's reminds me a lot of what the Dodgers do with pitchers. If Zierlein's write up here is close to accurate, this is all fixable.. except maybe the run D/tackling- that'll be up to his teammates to correct and inspire. Sounds like a 2 year project who is going to get thrown into the fire day 1, whether he likes it or not:
By Lance Zierlein
NFL Analyst
Draft Projection
Round 1
NFL Comparison
Jaylon Johnson
Overview
Elam is the next up in a long line of talented Florida cornerbacks, but he failed to play his best football in his final collegiate season. He is patient and strong to mirror and impede releases but inconsistent staying connected to the early stages of the route. He plays with good awareness in zone and has the twitch and length to make plays on the throw when squatting in space. He was beat on deep patterns against Alabama, Arkansas and Georgia, which might have led to excessive grabbing and an overall lack of trust in his technique on the 2021 tape. He plays big at the catch point but smaller in run support. Elam has early CB3 and eventual CB2 value as a press and zone corner.
Strengths
Desired size, length and strength for press man.
Well-balanced with ability to crowd and stuff the release.
Patient feet rarely fall for release fakes.
Able to swivel hips and pursue with fluidity.
Mirrors shifting routes with basketball agility.
Rarely bites on the cheese against double moves.
Allows receiver to close the cushion for him in Cover 3 and quarters coverage.
Squeezes deep sideline routes with physicality.
Contested catches are typically tilted in his favor.
Solid transition quickness to plant and drive on the throw.
Some improvement in his tackling on 2021 tape.
Weaknesses
Loses his leverage unnecessarily.
Allows a little too much clearance early in the route.
Needs better open-and-sprint timing when squatting underneath.
Vertical specialists can overtake and stack him.
Inconsistent digesting route combinations.
Too much panic and grab in his 2021 tape.
Can improve his eye balance between the man and the ball.
Doesn't play to his size in run support duties.
Inconsistent coming to balance as open-field tackler.
I've seen this posted numerous times in this topic. I like Zierlein a lot but he's not infallible. Like all these guys he's wrong a fair amount.
4 hours ago, sirebors said:Do you not understand that it was possibly Baltimore the Bills were mainly concerned with and not Dallas. Baltimore was willing to deal and could have been actively taking offers from multiple teams interested in Elam. You don't just have to be concerned only with Dallas.
Baltimore was shopping the pick! How do you not understand this? It's not Dallas you had to be concerned with, it's the other 30 teams in the league.
It's amazing how many people here are struggling with this rather simple concept. It's not like we're talking about the shape of the universe here.
4 hours ago, Old Coot said:Elam should fit in nicely. He has two relatives who played in the NFL so he knows the score.
My only concerns are that he missed three games last season because of a knee injury and that his play was a bit inconsistent.
Why come out after a junior season like that?
Because he was confident he'd be drafted in the 1st round so it made zero sense to stay another year and risk a catastrophic injury.
3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:Is it weird to say that Elam's play reminds me of Leodis McKelvin.....
5'10" 185 pound Leodis McKelvin?
Elam reminds me more of Patrick Peterson than Leodis McKelvin.
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The premise of the article is... flawed.
Free agency started on March 16th.
Why is she taking into account mock drafts which took place before that... in some cases 10 weeks before free agency even started?
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On 4/25/2022 at 10:10 AM, PetermansRedemption said:
Absolutely, horrendous draft IMO. No good QBs and no elite talent anywhere. What a year to have a top 5 pick. What a year to be Detroit. You need a QB and it would be a massive reach to draft one high in this draft. Should make for an entertaining Thursday night though. No way to predict how this one is going to fall.
It's not really a horrendous draft.
There are fewer than usual 1st round caliber players but the draft overall is considered quite deep.
On 4/25/2022 at 12:49 PM, section122 said:These aren't rumors just some crazy things I have thought could happen that I want to get on paper lol.
Giants will trade down a couple times from that 7 pick. Maybe 7 to 20 so Pitt can grab Willis and then 20 to 25 so Buffalo can get their guy.
Conversely, If a QB NYG likes slides (Willis maybe) I could see Bradberry or Toney and their 2nd getting packaged for 25.
I don't see a scenario where the Giants draft a QB. We'll see soon enough.
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Happy Birthday Fergy!
You're a good man and a good QB.
On 4/23/2022 at 10:29 AM, ExWNYer said:Agree. I was 17 and crushed when they lost. Their 'Bermuda Triangle' defense was #1 in the NFL and there is no doubt in my mind that team would have beaten the Raiders in the AFC Championship Game and then the Eagles in the Super Bowl. That 1980 season was their first division title since 1966 and the first I was old enough to remember. That is still one of my favorite Bills teams/seasons of all-time despite the way that San Diego game ended. I took some small consolation in the fact that Bob Chandler won himself a Super Bowl (sadly, traded that year to Oakland for LB Phil Villapiano).
Happy Birthday and many more, Fergy. 😊
Chuck Knox was a very underrated coach and team architect.
He was a three-time NFL Coach of the Year.
He took over a bad Rams team and led them to 5 straight division titles. He took over a bad Buffalo team and led them to consecutive playoff births. He then took over a bad Seattle team and led them to consecutive playoff births in his first two seasons. He had 186 wins, a .558 winning percentage and 11 playoff appearances.
The Bills were a clown show before he arrived and reverted back to being a clown show immediately after he left.
Thanks Ralph. I hope the $100K savings was worth it.
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On 4/23/2022 at 8:51 PM, Buffalo716 said:
We are very very thin
18 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:I didn't realize we were that thin.
10 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:You didn't realize we were thin at CB?
No, I didn't realize we were very very thin. I thought we were just thin.
This is disconcerting.
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6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I really haven't seen 1 person say he isn't good
What people are saying is we have other positions of need
We could've won a SB last year with singletary as our lead... Now is hall better? Yes
But Devin isn't solely keeping us back... Our offense scores ...our defense let us down
Hall certainly would make us more dynamic on offense
We can win a SB without drafting him
You sure are vacillating qu well.
Once actual debate about Hall is if he has good speed or not.
Some say he's slower than he times.
Others say he's as fast as he times.
He sure had a lot of long touchdowns.
6 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:We already took care of the defensive issue with Von Miller. Now it’s time to address the weakest link on offense. We can still draft a CB and an OG later in the draft.
It all depends on who's there. We can draft any position in any round.
6 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:It's up to beane to decide what's our biggest need
Hall can be a upgrade and dynamic weapon to our offense
But we are very thin at CB as well in a passing league
We are very very thin
I didn't realize we were that thin.
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On 4/23/2022 at 1:55 AM, GunnerBill said:
I don't know why Daboll and Schoen are keen to move off him, maybe it is all character issues, I don't pretend to have the answer on that. I do, however, know that my biggest knock on him coming out was route running. He has some Stevie Johnson in him. He runs every route his own way, he is sloppy coming out of breaks and he doesn't get to his landmarks consistently. There is no doubt he is dynamic with the ball in his hands, but if you think about the Daboll offense it is about sharp, precise route running that requires the receivers to read the defense and adjust their routes and puts a lot on their plate in that regard. Someone who does his own thing like Toney doesn't scream immediate fit. Whether it works for the Bills depends on how much Dorsey is sticking with what they had, and how much he is willing to adjust. Whether it is worth it price wise depends on how much the Giants are after and what the truth is character wise.
I think it has to be character concerns.
21 hours ago, mannc said:Suspended in college for “not living up to the Gator standard” is pretty hilarious.
I’d probably do it for a 3d or 4th…
Yeah really. Is the Gator Standard actually written somewhere or is just a feeling?
21 hours ago, Yantha said:Good points. I guess the hope when they drafted him was to coach him to being less sloppy but his character just wouldn't allow it.
Being an NFL football player is a privilege and I can't stand "attitude players".
Send him to McDonalds for minimum wage.
It's weird that he would skip the first two voluntary workouts of his career.
20 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:I would like to get K Toney and Bradberry (at half salary) for a 3rd and Epenesa.
This would make toney a low risk add-on, either he shows a change in attitude or he is gone and the Bills still have filled the CB spot.
For the Giants they would get reduced salary and have the new team make a strong stand against head cases.
There's a lot of things I would like.
20 hours ago, H2o said:This situation reminds me a lot of what the Titans went through with Isaiah Wilson a year ago. Wilson, a former 1st Round pick, was traded to the Dolphins and bounced into the street. He's not in the league right now, 2 years after being a first round pick.
Wasn't there a legal entanglement or am I confused?
19 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:I gotta say if Beane is interested (not saying he is) you'd think we have the inside track to land him.
Our front offices have close ties and its cross conference. Seems like a good candidate to move during draft day to move around the board.
It's funny. Everyone and their mother is expecting a sweetheart deal from Schoen.
I wonder if Giants fans are expecting the same thing?
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36 minutes ago, HIT BY SPIKES said:
Very well said however drafting OL is simply not sexy enough for the average Bills fan. Any fat guy will do for the OL. You can find them at Duff's Anchor Bar or even Gabriel's Gate.
Thanks for the tell.
It's always good for everyone to look in the mirror and be honest with themselves.
Welcome to the community.
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On 4/13/2022 at 1:04 PM, John from Riverside said:
draft is whackadoo.......cant really tell what is going to happen
True.
But you should still be trying to predict what will happen.
On 4/13/2022 at 1:53 PM, transplantbillsfan said:Ya know, the more I think about round 1 and Brandon Beane, the more I think it's going to be a traits guy we draft over anything like a "safe bet" or "great college production.
I agree. I think if this organization has one tendency (without evidence) I would say that they value traits.
On 4/13/2022 at 2:37 PM, gobills404 said:The Christian Watson hype since the combine has gotten out of control. 40 yard dash is extremely overrated for WRs and all the reasons he was viewed as a mid round pick before the combine (route running, drops, didn’t dominate FCS) still exist. No idea why any team would take Watson in the first 2 rounds when they could just get Isaiah Weston on day 3.
That's a got ya moment.
All of us are now scurrying to watch video of Isaiah Weston.
At least I am.
5 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:Can we get Pickens at 57? If so how would that sit with you?
Honestly I was a huge Carl Pickens fan so it's hard for me to be objective because of that and also I'm behind on my "research."
From everything I hear should be happy of we get Pickens at 57. I have to watch the video.
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8 hours ago, Floydboy12 said:
I actually like Jackson quite a bit. Have thought with added experience he would soon be a better player than Levi. I’m anti bringing in aging vet. We seem to have brought in a guy a couple times the past few years that the consensus was they were washed. And guess what? They were washed. I think this staff does a great job getting the most out of secondary guys. But in my opinion that coaching seems to be more effective on young guys who are more eager and willing to be coached than older vets. Just go with Jackson and draft a guy in the first 4 rounds.
The reason to sign a low-priced veteran is that you have one more layer of safety net.
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11 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:
The KC Kraken lurking in the corner.10 hours ago, Augie said:The AFCE scares me like any game scares me. They can ALL beat you, see the Jags game last year. BUT, what REALLY scares me is the AFC as a whole. Some VERY good teams from the AFC will not make the Super Bowl. Let’s not leave it to chance. Own the regular season and make the playoff path to the Super Bowl go thru WNY!
16 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:Yep, game is played on the field. You haven't done it until you've done it. All these power rankings and rhetoric are just that, rankings and rhetoric. McBeanes are absolutely killing it in building a high level roster, but the games are still played on the field, not on fan sites and media platforms. Go Bills.
The margin for error isn't comfortable as I would like but I have faith as most of us do.
The counter to the roller derby argument is the steel sharpens steel argument.
I have faith in this organization. I'm optimistic for the future. Super-psyched for Thursday.
Iron Maiden, you crack me up.
Not even the least bit oblique.
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A few excerpts from the Buffalo News article on David Quessenberry:
- A 6-foot-5, 310-pounder, Quessenberry started all 17 games in the regular season last year for the Titans, in addition to the team's playoff game against Cincinnati. In 2020, he appeared in 12 games for Tennessee, starting six times.
- Quessenberry, 31, has traveled a remarkable road to arrive in Buffalo. Originally a sixth-round draft pick of the Houston Texans in 2013, he played in two games as a rookie before his career was put on pause. In June 2014, Quessenberry was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Amazingly, he beat the odds and made an emotional return to the field in December 2017.
- Quessenberry comes from a football family. His dad, David Sr., played for the Naval Academy, as did his brother, Paul. Additionally, his youngest brother, Scott, is currently an offensive lineman for the Texans.
- Quessenberry figures to compete for the swing tackle job as the primary backup to starters Dion Dawkins and Spencer Brown. He has experience playing on both sides of the line, as his six starts in 2020 came at left tackle after Taylor Lewan was injured for the Titans.
- Analytics website Pro Football Focus had a favorable review of Quessenberry’s play in 2021. He ranked tied for 14th out of 57 tackles who played at least 633 offensive snaps, with a grade of 80.6 (out of 100), according to PFF. For comparison, Dawkins was the Bills’ highest-rated tackle, and he ranked tied for 17th.
- Quessenberry excelled as a run blocker, with an overall grade of 89.1 that ranked fourth in the league. However, his pass blocking left plenty to be desired, according to PFF. His 61.6 grade in that category ranked 42nd. Quessenberry was also charged by PFF with allowing 11 sacks, which led the league.
Bills 2022 defense - better or worse?
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I chose better and like some others I wasn't thinking in statistical terms. In my mind if the 2022 defense played the 2021 schedule, they would still be #1 in scoring and yardage but force a ton more turnovers.
My prediction for the 2022 defense is that they'll lead the league in takeaways. Several aspects of the defense will contribute to the upcoming turnover fest... improved pass rush, better play at cornerback, a higher level of athleticism, and much more QB confusion driven by the Bills ability to change and disguise looks from play to play.
It might take a few weeks for the defense to gel but there are enough veteran holdovers that I expect this adjustment period to be pretty brief.