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    Flashback EJ manual comeback drive

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    3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    Yeah, not sure he makes it elsewhere either...but just saying he was for sure not going to here.  We provided the worst case scenario for him, not sure I have ever seen a drafted QB as mishandled and managed as he was here.  

    Josh has a case?

     

    Drafted to sit, but starts second half of week 1.

     

    Backup is known bad QB Nate Peterman (who is not an NFL vet)

     

    One of the least talented team in the franchises’ history

     

    Pairing him with an OC with a not great track record at best

     

    Scrambling to pull an actual NFL vet off the couch in October in Derek Anderson

    Bryce Young already benched in Carolina

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    11 minutes ago, CNYfan said:

    Eberfluss has shown to be a very capable Defensive coordinator

    He’s been fine with tons of assets thrown the defenses’ way.

     

    The thing about consistently winning in the NFL is that the only person that matters is the QB. The greatest defensive coach in the history of the NFL was slogging through .500 years without the QB. The Bills oversaw the longest playoff drought in the NFL without the QB. 
     

    Eberflus being a good DC or a bad DC or a great DC is kind of irrelevant. The only thing that is going to change that team’s trajectory was if Fields succeeded or now if Caleb succeeds. 

    Bryce Young already benched in Carolina

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    2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

    I hate to use another comparison to this situation, but EJ Manuel was subjected to the same kind of stupidity at the coaching level and destroyed any kind of confidence the kid had. Marrone and Hackett ruined the kid's career

    That’s the thing. EJ wasn’t Marrone’s guy. 
     

    It’s true dysfunction. Marrone had no belief in EJ and was willing to move on immediately. Which, honestly, is understandable. But the Bills would’ve been much better off hiring a coach who was all in on developing EJ, even if it didn’t work.

     

    All that matters is your QB becoming a top 15 guy in the NFL. The Panthers pursuing a few extra wins and giving up on Bryce puts them squarely in drought era Bills territory.

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    Bryce Young already benched in Carolina

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    56 minutes ago, Sojourner said:


    Yeah but they aren’t in that #1 slot if they don’t trade for the 2023 pick of bryce young…

     

    in fact, if they don’t trade away all the top end talent that team has had over the last few years, who knows where they’d be. certainly aren’t picking #1 overall with CMC, DJ moore and whoever else they end up with under center?

     

    Darnlod, for all the lumps he’s taken, didn’t do too bad the final 6 games of that 22 season: 

    went 4-2

    threw 1100 yards, 7TDS, 4INTs

     

     

    that was with DJ moore. You imagine if he had CMC and some other weapons? They aren’t in play for young, williams or any 1st overall without a trade. 
     

    tepper and morgan have traded all that talent, overpaid for average players and turned the coaching staff over too much to give any young qb a chance to succeed. 


     

     

     

    I’m confused at what you’re trying to say. 
     

    The Bears kept lame duck Eberflus, who has shown nothing at the NFL level, and already had a first round QB fail under his watch. 
     

    If the Bears and/or Caleb flounder, he will be the first to go. Then they will be forced to bring in another coach, who may or may not be committed to the previous investment of a #1 overall pick. 
     

    And ultimately, these teams NEED to hire coaches who are 100% committed to getting that investment to succeed. 
     

    The Browns did this with Baker. They kept a terrible HC in Hue Jackson when they brought in Baker. They of course dumped him MID YEAR, brought in another terrible HC in Kitchens, then finally landed on Stefanski, who wanted to move on from Baker immediately. They threw away Baker’s development because the HC didn’t want him. They threw away the investment of pick #1 for the HC.
     

    The Panthers are doing the same. Young has been truly awful, but if he isn’t Canales’ guy, it’s a total waste of the investment.

    Bryce Young already benched in Carolina

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    13 minutes ago, Sojourner said:


    good post. 
     

    your eberflus point is interesting. fields did nothing with him but the team did improve year 2… now you’ve given the defensive coach all the pieces to work with on both sides of the ball it’s make or break this year for me if i am the halas/mcaskey family.

     

    if things dont work out in chicago then you bring in an offensive minded coach to steer the ship with caleb and all those offensive weapons

    Sure but there is a chance they bring in a guy who isn’t married to Caleb, or has to coach him differently or has to go backwards. 
     

    They should have canned him and started over with a Coach who was all in on Caleb

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    Bryce Young already benched in Carolina

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    This is the mistake the Bills made for

    decades.

     

    The QB and the coach have to be linked. If the coach doesn’t believe in the QB, he is not the right coach for the job. 
     

    McDaniel saved Tua’s career when they brought him in because he believed in Tua. He was right (kinda) and Tua has been a good productive starter. This was in stark contrast to what Flores had Tua looking like. 
     

    The Giants brought in Daboll and Schoen because they believed they could fix DJ. They were wrong, but they gave Jones a chance. 
     

    Young has no chance. Zero. His career with the Panthers is done. And all in the pursuit of winning 3 games instead of 2.

     

    The goal of every single lost franchise should be “make my highly drafted QB at least decent.” Not win 4 games or 6 games. Because….if you get a decent QB, you will hit those numbers regardless.

     

    The Bears did this, AGAIN. They kept lame duck Eberflus, who was brought in after Fields was drafted by Nagy and subsequently fired. 3 years later, they have picked 3 times in the top 8.
     

    This is how bad franchises stay bad. Marry the QB and coach immediately or hope you hit on a random lotto ticket. 

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    Christian Benford appreciation thread

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    2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    I do too. The issue is that Draft Class has so many Post Round 1 hits, are we going to be able to extend them all?

     

    Benford may or may not be Priority 1. All these players were Drafted in the same class and all their contracts come due at the same time. And they're all going to be pricey.

     

    James Cook

    Terrel Bernard

    Khalil Shakir

    Christian Benford

    It’s simple. You only extend two of them.

    Bryce Young already benched in Carolina

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    3 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

    You can say that about any school, but Alabama is actually one of the best historically (Bart Starr, Ken Stabler, Joe Namath, and I guess Jalen Hurts, although he did transfer away).  I'd go as far as to argue that the only other schools that have produced three very good NFL QBs are Stanford (Elway, Luck, Plunkett), Purdue (Griese, Len Dawson, Brees), and Cal (Rogers, Brodie, Goff). Beyond that, no one has produced more than two as far as I can tell. Michigan was famous for never putting out good QBs until they did (the GOAT), and now one can say the same for Ohio State, who appear to have finally produced an elite qb. Most elite schools top out with two. Miami put out Kelly and Kosar, and I guess you could say Vinny T but I wouldn't include him.  LSU had Bert Jones and Joe Burrow but no one beyond that. Tennessee has Payton Manning, Ole Miss Payton and Eli, Texas just Bobby Layne. USC just Carson Palmer (although the jury is out on Darnold given that he's young). UCLA has just Troy Aikman. And on and on.

     

    Anyway, judging a qb's future path by where he went to school doesn't really work. 

    The only reasonable conclusion from this data:

     

    Good NFL QB’s are hard to find

    Productive college QB’s in good systems have little correlation to NFL success.

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    Around the NFL Week 2

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    21 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    Whoa. 

     

     

    He is broken. Not sure if it’s the Panthers fault or not but he is unbelievably uncomfortable under center, has no pocket presence, and has been getting clobbered.

     

    he missed a WR screen to Thielen yesterday and looked like he was close to tears.

     

    Very sad for the young man. I truly don’t think he will ever see meaningful snaps again.

    Around the NFL Week 2

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    7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

     

    It isn't holding if the pass rusher uses a rip move unless certain conditions are met.

     

    https://www.sbnation.com/23577117/2023-nfl-playoffs-chiefs-bengals

    Nothing has had a worse public perception than a rip move.

     

    EVERY game there’s a rip move that gets screenshot or shown on replay and 99% of fans watching think it’s a missed call.

     

    Honestly, the NFL should do a 1 min PSA before every game about the rule.

    Around the NFL Week 2

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    1 minute ago, H2o said:

    The policy wasn't revised until 2021. And they still do an annual at TC. Gregory was smart enough not to get popped again after the last one. 

    Okay, so we have gone backwards to “yes, they haven’t suspended anyway for weed for 5+ years but they revised the policy later,” haha 

     

     

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