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9 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
Basically what I read. Appreciate the response.
I will say, in addition to Bloomberg, the NYTimes is essentially becoming unreadable now as well.
The WSJ will call it when, say, Trump is saying or doing something dumb. The NYTimes is such mouth-piece that you have to challenge even "facts" they're spewing on their pages.
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7 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
Where do you get your info? Let's hear it.
I read the WSJ and NYTimes every day. I read Bloomberg News constantly all day long (weekdays). And I read the NY Post when I find myself on the train home (weekdays).
Websites would be CNN & NBC News. I used to read Drudge for a long time but 3-4 years ago it became unreadable. Guess we have to include Apple News and Twitter these days. I think that covers it.
And of course, PPP
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45 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
If you think Bloomberg is disinformation you are a fool. You should know this being in finance supposedly. Read the ***** article.
BTW where is your voter fraud case? Talk about disinformation.
Watch some real Trumpers!! Funny ***** right there.
Bloomberg News is actually off the rails these days. Can't rely on it or the information therein.
Has become just another mouthpiece
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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:
And there’s your not-so-hidden agenda. It is important for you and your ilk to create alternative scenarios — even bizarre gay hooker pickup gone bad scenarios — to counteract the obvious fact that this guy was: (1) not all there mentally; AND (2) influenced by nutty QAnon conspiracy theories.
I repeat: the gay hooker narrative seemed to emerge from a report that the attacker was in his underwear when the cops arrived. That’s it. (And I don’t know if that has been confirmed or refuted.) in some alternative universe there could be facts like “Pelosi was seen leaving a SF bar with a man fitting the description of the attacker and taking an Uber with him to Pelosi’s home.” OK, in that case, some speculation about the nature of the attack would be warranted. But we have nothing like that. Nothing. It’s an ass-covering story now by fringey MAGA/Q types who don’t want to admit that their wacko politics has a special appeal to the mentally ill. Because, you know, it’s effin crazy.This is incorrect. I am not going on national television declaring this random tragedy to be a symptom of "MAGA behavior" whatever that is....that is the doing of Pres Biden, Nancy Pelosi, MSM, etc etc.
If we believe the police narrative, and I stated up front that I am, he was just a nutjob who hated gov't and seems like unfortunately Nancy seemed to be the most powerful person living in his small realm.
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1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:
So this is all nonsense. COVID is real, it killed over a million Americans. It wasn't made up. People didn't WANT COVID to be a thing. That's so unbelievably stupid. Why would anyone want a pandemic?
Different people had different ideas on how to handle the pandemic. But COVID is real.
If you think that the coding of COVID deaths was done poorly, then look at excess deaths. That is, the number of people who died over what would be expected during that time period, from any and all causes. The numbers are pretty staggering: https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
Also, here's your flu tracker: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm
COVID is simply a respiratory virus, nothing more, nothing less. We have several of these things, including RSV which is now actually killing kids instead of 80 year olds.
It most certainly did NOT kill over 1,000,000 Americans over 2.5 years, during which over 6,000,000 Americans died of something. During a period when Hospitals lost all discretionary surgeries and treatments, the gov't offered to pay them to treat COVID patients, and voila, they were testing everyone and since everyone in a hospital inevitably gets every airborn virus, most people had it.
The gov't does NOT track Flu specifically, it tracks like 10 centers and then extrapolates and multiplies to achieve an estimate. This is why the Mortality rate of COVID will end up MUCH lower when they finally get around to calculating and extrapolating the incidence rate. It will about what a tough Flu is.
Excess deaths is again based on estimates, but I've read just as much that deaths slowed from 2015 to 2019, with some suggesting that the US (and World really) was due for a bounce in the death rate...for example, the jump from 2013 to 2015 was +200,000 people, but then from 2015 to 2019 it only jumped 140,000 people in 4 years. So these numbers can bounce around. The 2020 number jumps up to 3.39 per US Census, but I've seen estimates that are much below that (linked below).
2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021
2.712m 2.744m 2.813m 2.839m 2.854m 3.39m
United States of America Number of deaths, 1950-2021 - knoema.com
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On 10/23/2022 at 8:18 PM, ChiGoose said:
This is the reason I was reluctant to return to this board.
By basically every objective metric, the US’s response to COVID was terrible. Compare the per capita statistics to our peer countries and we looked like crap. We were not acting like the best country in the world, but instead like a country of complete incompetence.
And it’s totally fine to question different responses by state and local governments. I thought they kept the schools closed too long. The pandemic hit in March, if you close the schools a bit early, then you have the entire summer to figure out how to keep them open in the fall. And prioritizing keeping bars and restaurants open when schools were closed was basically the opposite of what I think they should have done.
But the federal government basically just told the states to take care of it. A global pandemic and the feds basically just washed their hands of it and left it to everyone else to figure out. We had states competing against each other to buy PPE from overseas, and then the feds would come over the top and outbid them to hoard supplies for the federal stockpile while people were dying. We had a Republican Governor sneak supplies through in the middle of the night because he was worried the feds would steal the supplies if they knew. You don’t have a functioning federal response when states have to start setting up whole new interstate quasi-governments so they could cooperate instead of compete.
We literally have Donald Trump on tape saying in private that this was going to be really bad BEFORE he went out in public and said it was all going to be fine and it would disappear by the summer.
It shouldn’t be surprising that you were statistically more likely to die of COVID if you were a Republican. We had a party and leader who were actively putting their supporters in lethal jeopardy and you’re all still kissing his ass. If the president wanted me dead, I wouldn’t be supporting him, not to mention shaping my entire worldview around a fantasy that he is an infallible godking
Most of the posts on this board are barely distinguishable from a Brietbart comments section. It’s like all of the uncles that everyone secretly hoped wouldn’t come to Thanksgiving dinner got together to send boomer Facebook memes to each other.
No wonder Billstime mostly just posts memes. Trying to engage in good faith with people so ignorant that they spend their time defending someone who basically tried to kill them is basically pointless.
The metrics are all lies, that's the problem.
I don't know ANYONE who died from COVID, but I do know three elderly people who passed away who were categorized as COVID deaths but were not.
One was 79 years old, Dementia & Parkinsons, constantly wandering around and had stopped feeding himself or taking care of himself, died of natural causes
Another, and this is unbelievable, the family didn't want their 87 year old father to have to go through a second diabetic-induced leg amputation so they let him go, removed feeding tube and everything...but he died of COVID
The bottom line is certain Americans WANTED COVID to be a thing so badly they created a "Covid-tracker"...we have never been able to track disease, flu, even deaths in this country but they had COVID data in real-time. It's a joke. And a Lie
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17 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:
This gay lover gone bad thing doesn’t even deserve the name “conspiracy theory.” There’s simply no facts to support it. None. And if it really was a weird gay lover spat, would they be charging the guy with attempted murder? And giving him the chance to put on a defense? If he hangs himself in jail, well, I guess you then have a starting point. Right now it’s just somebody saying “sometimes these kind of late night assaults come from disputes between a gay hooker and his client.” But some people can never accept that sometimes life is random and that not everything is part of a big conspiracy.
I am not here to support any theory other than the updated Police version, and nobody (politician or otherwise) should ever be attacked, BUT...
I always get a hearty laugh when Dems/Leftists espouse these views that normal people are crazy to suspect something suspicious happened because "there's no evidence" or "he said he didn't know him and had never seen him before"
Of course if Paul was having something untoward going on while Nancy was away, he's going to say I don't know him. OF COURSE he would.
And OF COURSE the Police, at the direction of "Government officials" and the FBI wouldn't be out searching for evidence in such a case, thereby CREATING or DISCOVERING the evidence you say is not there to show another possible cause.
The absence of something is not conclusive ESPECIALLY around something as sensitive as this...they're trying to turn a failed-city vagrant into an Ultra-MAGA hitman here, accommodations must be made.
Ultimately, this country is worse off for the Leftist Sheep just taking their marching orders from their cabal leaders.
For heavens sake, the Leftists' initial patron Saint sat up there and lied and denied that he had extra-marital relations right up there on the stand.
Just not people with a lot of depth.
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18 hours ago, JDHillFan said:
It’s almost as if the dems are impotent. Should have been easy to look good after Trump and they have shat all over themselves. I’m sure the voters will give them another two years though.
This is not correct. People didn't like Trump because of an illicit recorded female joke (Million Women's March, LOL) but his policies and decisions were A+
He did NOT leave an easy path for Dems, because they promised to do the OPPOSITE of what he did, but what he did was correct, so....
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15 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:
We are led by a total clown show, all over, up and down
Scary
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10 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:
As a Roman Catholic who does not support the use of birth control, or abortion, do I have the right to not serve you in my restaurant if you believe and use birth control or have an abortion.
Is this not a similar situation.
Hmmmm
Not sure what you said, but, by practicing your religion as the US constitution guarantees does that give you the right to discriminate against other religions or people who do not support your religion. Can a public business specify they only sell goods and services to those in certain religions.
Geezus. Public business no. Private, yes.
i dont even care here just trying to help you.
These are symptoms. I can assure you, civilizations over the eons that have tempted these fates have fallen by them. We know that, because right now we're the only one left. It's not hard.
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18 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:
Why should any religion be a reason for exemption from any law or societal norm?
It's as simple as that is how our country came to be formed and continues to be standing...it's also part of the reason the country survived and thrived and IS the nation you (presumably) reside in today.
Feels to me like (in general) the American Left takes a whole helluva lot for granted these days.
Life on this rock ain't easy...amazing civilizations just don't "appear" out of nowhere...and have have NEVER, EVER emerged when the type of principles the American Left wants to apply and live by have been dominant. Not ever. Those principles HAVE led to the demise of civilizations many times over, though
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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:
The Korean War argument
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It just seems like you're not going to get it. That's what it feels like to me. (and that's OK by the way)
And I don't mean that in the "gotcha" sense. It's just so very clear at this point, and most people are "normal" and don't run around trying to create life statements for others (talking about the folks suing bakers here).
All that said, I have zero problem with anyone being who they are and I guess if it wasn't vulgar and I owned a bakery I'd do whatever.
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You are correct. COVID was a Global Psy Op East vs. West, we are now in the 2nd Stage (Western Civ economic calamity and implosion).
Taiwan will likely be invaded next.
The East saw a pathetic shift Leftward in Western Civilization and saw them ripe for disruption, and our Leftist leaders were happy to oblige.
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22 hours ago, Albwan said:
China doesn't need anything from us except gobs of money spent on amazon bought items
and US farmland. They have already stolen what they need technology wise.
This is a joke article designed to breast feed dumb democrat disciples.
This is completely wrong. Advanced Semi Equipment is NOT something they have. ASML has 100% market share. This is a declaration of war. More likely, we've been at war and our Gov't just won't come clean about it.
This makes zero sense. It's crazy. It tells me we are already actually at war with China/Russia, no other explanation is possibly plausible
Our Liberal Leftist media went BANANAS when Trump slapped a 15% tariff on China, but not a word on this? Semis are life, and ASML has 100% market share of Advanced Semi Cap Equipment. Utterly insane to do this.
There is no doubt now...COVID was definitely a Global Psy Op...and the Left's response to Donald Trump may be the end of Western Civilization (at least, as we know it).
I don't get, we have a President declaring we would physically DEFEND Taiwan on a Nationally Televised interview, and then this happens, which is going to force China to invade Taiwan?
What are they trying to do here?
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12 hours ago, Tiberius said:
Why? Ukraine is a sovereign nation and do what they want
Great, then needless WW3
Enjoy yourself.
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The biggest misconception is that this is a Fed problem. No, the Fed has not performed perfectly at all, but this is a FISCAL problem. Specifically, it's a LEFTIST DEMOCRAT problem.
They have ZERO clue about Economics. They get way too caught up in Social issues (Abortion, etc) when the Existential ones (Economy, Security) are going to demolish our nation and its people's fortunes.
Trump's tariffs were deplorable but shutting down Semi Cap equipment to China is A-OK? Idiots
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1 hour ago, nedboy7 said:
Wow you are triggered ha? When you say this media do you include Alex Jones? Cause that dude is toast!
What does Triggered mean? I don't care in the least about Alex Jones, his program shouldn't exist just like the MSNBC "Mid-Terms Podcast" shouldn't exist either. People should live their lives, Politics should not be a "thing", it should just be a function.
I notice you didn't attempt to answer any of the points I made, and I understand, there are no answers. Only general Democrat incompetence that I hope doesn't sink us all.
You'll notice that "barely a Democrat anymore" Jamie Dimon is now out in force all over warning about how bad things are gonna get....I was asked today why that is? And the answer is because he sees noone of competence in any room in Washington right now. The President is gone, the VP is a zero, Schumer is a clown, Pelosi is, frankly, a never-was...the Cabinet is pathetic and makes Trump's look like the Manhattan Project.
Dimon is trying to signal to people that we're in real trouble. The problem is, our gov't itself is the GD problem, they've used all our tolls preemptively and now we're stuck with nothing to defend ourselves.
The Democrats' Climate Approach is a Smog Reduction strategy, not an energy policy, and millions of people may die globally as a result.
Nobody's lives get better by getting a cheap handout, or an artificial lift of minimum wage, and people are now figuring that out.
The problem is, you can't change reality. Reality is beautiful. Leftist democrats live in an entirely sanctified dreamworld where their latest feel-good ideas work...but they DON'T here in the real world.
And our friends out East in China and Russia know that and they are decidedly using it against us. I hope there's a strand of strategic intelligence in the Biden Administration somewhere, but frankly I don't see it.
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On 9/15/2022 at 1:53 PM, nedboy7 said:
Sounds like you need some more school yourself....
Trump took every opportunity while campaigning to tout gains in the stock market as evidence of a booming U.S. economy. On Nov. 24, 2020, Trump even broke his post-election silence to hold a minute-long news conference to tout the Dow Jones Industrial Average trading at the 30,000 mark.
"The stock market’s just broken 30,000. Never been broken, that number, that’s a sacred number," the president said. "I just want to congratulate all the people within the administration that worked so hard."
Stock markets have rallied significantly, bouncing back sharply after a March fall to soar to record highs as Trump was in office -- despite the rest of the economy largely receding and suffering.
"The stock market is up phenomenally and the bond market too, so wealthy investors who own most of it benefited," Frankel said of economic wins during Trump's tenure.
Much of the stock market gains, however, economists link to expansionary policy from the Federal Reserve, which is independent of Trump -- and Trump has notably even taken steps to weaken the Fed’s independence. Expansionary policy aims to inject money into the economy, such as the way the Fed slashed interest rates and made it easier to borrow.
The Dow soared by 56% during Trump's presidency. It climbed 148% under Obama, it fell by 26.5% under Bush and climbed 229% under Clinton. Notably, the previous presidents had two terms. At the one term line, the Dow climbed 73.2% under Obama, dropped by 3.7% under Bush and soared 105.8% under Clinton.
"It's not Trump because the stock market is going up even more since Biden won the election," Frankel added.
Chinn noted that “if you lower interest rates by two to three percentage points, that'll give you a stock market boom.”
Another problem with pointing to the stock market as a barometer of the economy is that most of it is owned by the wealthy, and middle- and low-wage workers don't reap the benefits of market gains if they don't own any market shares.
In the third quarter of 2020 the wealthiest 10% of households based on net worth own 88% of all total corporate equities and mutual fund shares, according to Federal Reserve data, with the top 1% owning 53%.
Shierholz said for most working class and even middle class families, stock market gains are "utterly irrelevant."
While Trump didn't create the issue of income inequality in the U.S., his policies will be remembered for creating an economy where the richest prosper while lower-paid families struggle.
So dumb, so misguided.
Middle class and poor families are struggling much more now than they were then. And it's going to get materially worse.
And to top it off, the set-up is very bad, because the Fed will be counter-productive (raising rates instead of lowering them) and the Fiscal side has no ammo because the idiotic Biden Administration already spent all the printed money on "feel-good" instead of saving it for necessary.
NEVER EVER FORGET that moron Bernie Sanders wanted to print SEVEN TRILLION DOLLARS to create his Socialist/Communist fantasy land...we are doomed by the $3 Trillion the moronic Biden Admin Cabal has flexed on us...the net $6T more that Bernie wanted would have ended our society.
You people need to get a clue before it's too late. Right now not one freaking thing you Leftists say has any semblance of intelligent/realistic thought embedded in it...it's a joke.
And "Election Denier" is the biggest LIE in the history of the world...the Dems denied every election they lost for 20 years
You know what, with this education system and this media, we're finally cooked. This stuff is so dumb.
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12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:
It's going to take full 1984 for people to realize this time we're living in right now really was the beginning of the end of the American experiment
The stuff the lunatic Dems have been propising or passing for years are now mainstream in their party. What's worse is their allies now include every single institution that at least didn't support it, but now flat out sides with them - but most of that is out of fear of being canceled, fired, or worse.
Everything from their policies to how they talk and attack their enemies is straight outta Mao's playbook.
This was the Global Psy Op (East vs. West; Civilization vs. Civilizatioin) that I've been talking about since the onset of the "slightly different Respiratory Illness" that "struck the world" in Dec, 2019.
The reality is the Western Civilizations have been crumbling for some time, it's the classic case of "forgot what got you there".
These Eastern Civilizations just take much longer time-frames AND they don't care at all about their individual "citizens"
None of this is by accident, and our mindless Leftists just fall for it all. Case in point, the Biden Admin's Ban on Advanced Semi Equipment sales to China, telling Netherlands-based ASML who has 98% share of Steppers and Lithography equipment they can't sell to China, is nothing short of Territorial Economic warfare that will lead to potentially active warfare (I hope not)...
But the point is our mindless Left idiots and Media morons freaked about Trumps' tariffs but not this cause they are too dumb to understand the significance...and this runs all the way up to the Leftist cabal actually running our Gov't in the White House (and the Eastern Civilizations surely know this despite our Leftist media covering for Biden et al).
We're in a tough spot, save your money.
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On 10/7/2022 at 3:18 PM, sherpa said:
Good God.
The price of oil diminished because the expectation is for a recession in Europe, and perhaps the US.
You know---less demand.
Claiming that Biden did it with the release of the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve is the stuff of idiots.
We are being run by idiots so...
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3 hours ago, Tiberius said:
No no, religion in general has been very misogynist, this is true of christianity. You can't admit that
so dumb. So very I’ll-informedDo you know how females were treated 1000s of years ago? Not well. Christian values greatly improved the plight of women around the world.
geezus
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11 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:
The fact that he allegedly never entered the capital makes me more suspicious he was an informant or something than if he HAD gone in. Makes no sense for an average slug just trying to survive would travel to DC, tell people the night before "we must go into the capital", direct people to the capital, and then be right there when the first bicycle gate fell and he just stands there and doesn't go in to me indicates he couldn't go in cuz it would mess up the case having a FBI informant in there with the " insurectionists".
Obviously...honestly the Communists think we're so stupid
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These people are total scumbags and need to be stopped.
NY AG should be impeached now
And I can't stand Trump the person
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Speaker Pelosi's Home Has Been Attacked
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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Emperor Has No Clothes Update:
Happened to see NBC News this morning as wife had it on...this is the NBC NEWS reporter...
New details on Paul Pelosi attack...Police say Mr. Pelosi answered the door and showed no signs of distress, then he walked back INTO the house and police followed...minutes later the attacker struck
I know weird stuff happens in SF, but the Newscast just like let that go...just nodding away like OK that makes sense.
If I felt they had ANY personal integrity, the Democrat Left would acknowledge and apologize for their statements vilifying their "opponents" when this was really just some nutjob
It sucks that Mr Pelosi was attacked like that, but let's acknowledge what's really happening in our Leftist Media echochambers